Why is the BR allowed to be overpowered?

Used by everybody, fastest killtime and with team firing it is completely unstoppable except for maybe a rocket launcher in a close corridor. It is the only gun useable and can even take out a DMR at long range on maps like Complex. Even the Assault Rifle has a difficult time of taking down a half decent BR user while the other 2 autos do next to nothing if you aren’t on a really small map.

The DMR did a lot of these things but not nearly as badly, yet the BR gets to do these things to a much greater degree? I don’t get it. Why does the easiest gun to use in the game get to be overpowered yet the Light Rifle, Carbine and DMR just get to sit back and be destroyed?

As an assault rifle go-to I can say inside medium range I have no problems with the BR or DMR. I have been given my fair share of -Yoink- from carbines though.

> Used by everybody, fastest killtime and with team firing it is completely unstoppable except for maybe a rocket launcher in a close corridor. It is the only gun useable and can even take out a DMR at long range on maps like Complex. Even the Assault Rifle has a difficult time of taking down a half decent BR user while the other 2 autos do next to nothing if you aren’t on a really small map.
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> The DMR did a lot of these things but not nearly as badly, yet the BR gets to do these things to a much greater degree? I don’t get it. Why does the easiest gun to use in the game get to be overpowered yet the Light Rifle, Carbine and DMR just get to sit back and be destroyed?

Uh, no. Not even close. You’re greatly exaggerating the situation.

I only occasionally use a BR, and I do just fine. LR and DMR stomp the BR at long range.

I would not go so far as to say that the BR is overpowered, while I would say that the BR is one of the more powerful weapons in the game.

The range on the BR is limited, a Light Rifle and DMR usually takes me out with ease. At close-range, automatics will rip me apart if I don’t keep my distance. I would say that the Battle Rifle is well-balanced.

Besides, it’s one of the more widely distributed UNSC weapons. It’s gotta be powerful :slight_smile:

Since the majority of encounters in Halo occur at mid-range and the BR’s niche among the primary loadout weapons is mid-range, of course it’s going to be the most useful and popular.

The BR is fine. In fact it should kill even faster since sprint is default.

Heres an idea. Instead of trying to make all these freaking starting weapons viable, just get rid off all this loadout crap and have everyone start with a BR. That way i can 4 you while you whirlwind around my body.

I mean AR beat-downs are sooo skillful. NOT

Edit: While were at it, lets add descope back into the game. That way you wont even hit me once at range.

It really isn’t.

> The BR is fine. In fact it should kill even faster since sprint is default.
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> Heres an idea. Instead of trying to make all these freaking starting weapons viable, just get rid off all this loadout crap and have everyone start with a BR. That way i can 4 you while you whirlwind around my body.
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> I mean AR beat-downs are sooo skillful. NOT
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> Edit: While were at it, lets add descope back into the game. That way you wont even hit me once at range.

Are you saying br kills are skillful? yeah right, it’s the easiest gun to use in h4. That’s why I find it amusing when people call the ar a noob weapon.

the br is anything but overpowered. it works perfectly for its niche in this game.

> > The BR is fine. In fact it should kill even faster since sprint is default.
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> > Heres an idea. Instead of trying to make all these freaking starting weapons viable, just get rid off all this loadout crap and have everyone start with a BR. That way i can 4 you while you whirlwind around my body.
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> > I mean AR beat-downs are sooo skillful. NOT
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> > Edit: While were at it, lets add descope back into the game. That way you wont even hit me once at range.
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> Are you saying br kills are skillful? yeah right, it’s the easiest gun to use in h4. That’s why I find it amusing when people call the ar a noob weapon.

Pretty sure he never said BR kills were skillful.

Actually, IMO, the DMR is the easiest weapon to use in Halo 4.

Out of the three, the AR is the easiest to hit occasional shots with (which is why it’s used by newbies), but one of the more difficult weapons to consistently kill with, since encounters tend to happen outside of its effective range.

I agree on it being too powerful at close range, thing takes down most AR users which is NOT arguable, MOST Ar users, however at long range it does NOT usually beat a DMR or LR. I think it’s RoF needs to be nerfed a small hair, it will still excell at mid-range (as intended) but give the autos more breathing room, shotgun too.

> I agree on it being too powerful at close range, thing takes down most AR users which is NOT arguable, MOST Ar users, especially using the 2 shot melee, however at long range it does NOT usually beat a DMR or LR. I think it’s RoF needs to be nerfed a small hair, it will still excell at mid-range (as intended) but give the autos more breathing room, shotgun too.

The BR is far from overpowered, but I don’t think I would be wrong for calling it the best primary weapon. The Carbine is pretty much just as effective at mid range however I personally use the BR because the clip size is more efficient for the amount of shots it takes to kill. Also I find it slightly harder to use the Carbine in confined spaces.

I find the power of the BR is amplified by the amount of people that choose to use weapons such as the AR, DMR or Light Rifle in its dominant range. A DMR, LR or AR have no chance of beating a BR at mid range. Also a BR user with a good strafe can easily destroy an AR user in its dominant range.

I have learned how to deal with all the battle rifle spam and have made it good as an assault rifle user lately. As long as you burst fire correctly and hold your aim steady it can keep up with the BR out to midrange.

> I have learned how to deal with all the battle rifle spam and have made it good as an assault rifle user lately. As long as you burst fire correctly and hold your aim steady it can keep up with the BR out to midrange.

A bad BR, yes.
The AR is a powerful tool however it is very limiting in terms of range. It should not be challenging anybody outside of its comfortable range. Engaging in these battles are only putting yourself at a disadvantage.

Because this isn’t COD where every weapon is a viable option. This is Halo (or at least was at one time) where every weapon has it’s own roll. If you try to cross map people in BTB with a BR then you’re doing it wrong just like if you try to use the DMR at close to medium range. Yet another issue with having loadouts in an arena shooter.

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> A bad BR, yes.
> The AR is a powerful tool however it is very limiting in terms of range. It should not be challenging anybody outside of its comfortable range. Engaging in these battles are only putting yourself at a disadvantage.

you would be surprised at how fast an AR can swat someone down even at midrange with good burst firing. If you don’t 4 shot me your in trouble.

Its not over powered.

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> > A bad BR, yes.
> > The AR is a powerful tool however it is very limiting in terms of range. It should not be challenging anybody outside of its comfortable range. Engaging in these battles are only putting yourself at a disadvantage.
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> you would be surprised at how fast an AR can swat someone down even at midrange with good burst firing. If you don’t 4 shot me your in trouble.

This
When i went for AR mastery I became quiet good with the AR, pulse that trigger and out strafe the annoying BR user at mid range nothing finer

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> > A bad BR, yes.
> > The AR is a powerful tool however it is very limiting in terms of range. It should not be challenging anybody outside of its comfortable range. Engaging in these battles are only putting yourself at a disadvantage.
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> you would be surprised at how fast an AR can swat someone down even at midrange with good burst firing. If you don’t 4 shot me your in trouble.

True, but for MOST AR users, mid range is not an option against a BR, and often times even up close.