Why is Spartan Ops now legendary?

I’m not complaining. I like it. I was just wondering if we’d had a reason for it, did players request it, did data show it was too easy?

Was their an announcement?

Might of been one of those internal decisions made at Three Hundred and Fourty-Three Industries. However, I’d be more pleased if they took the Halo Reach Campaign Matchmaking route, where they gave us options for Normal Heroic of Legendary.

Spartan Op, even on Legendary poses no form of challenge.
Might as well have it set on the difficulty with the highest XP payout.

It annoys me really. Anybody with thumbs is capable of doing Spartan Ops on Legendary so it’s hardly a matter of “skill”; I’d like to play SpOps “realistically” i.e Heroic difficulty. Difficult enough to pose challenge from the AI, but not so unbalanced as that all the enemies have Fuel Rod Guns and my shields can’t take three plasma pistol shots.

> Spartan Op, even on Legendary poses no form of challenge.
> Might as well have it set on the difficulty with the highest XP payout.

Its supposed to be fun. Please dont say fun is subjective, because that is a tired forum speak, uttered only by elitists. At that difficulty its a slow slog to the end of the match. Nothing was ever said that after the infinity challenge that it would stay for the new episodes. They should have went back to default (heroic) and after the season, returned to Legendary.

I think you misunderstand the logic behind it.The problem was that on heroic people wanted to beat the missions on legendary, but with it set on heroic people had to play with friends to beat them on legendary.Which some of you may not be aware of, but not everyone has 2-3 people to play with, just saying.

So the reasoning to changing to it to legendary was not just for the sake of difficulty, but for convenience to all players.

> > Spartan Op, even on Legendary poses no form of challenge.
> > Might as well have it set on the difficulty with the highest XP payout.
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> Its supposed to be fun. Please dont say fun is subjective, because that is a tired forum speak, uttered only by elitists. At that difficulty its a slow slog to the end of the match. Nothing was ever said that after the infinity challenge that it would stay for the new episodes. They should have went back to default (heroic) and after the season, returned to Legendary.

Well fun IS subjective. This is fact.

On Legendary you are lucky if a mission lasts over 15 minutes. They go by very quickly.

Legendary only makes sense as it is the hardest to create a lobby for. People are always wanting to play Heroic and under. This creating a custom lobby for those are easy. On legendary, however, I have only ever successfully put together one lobby for legendary. Legendary matchmaking SpOps ensures every game will be legendary. There is also the obvious benefit of additional XP.

I know I requested it in a few spaces. Think it just made sense to them.

> > Spartan Op, even on Legendary poses no form of challenge.
> > Might as well have it set on the difficulty with the highest XP payout.
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> Its supposed to be fun. Please dont say fun is subjective, because that is a tired forum speak, uttered only by elitists. At that difficulty its a slow slog to the end of the match. Nothing was ever said that after the infinity challenge that it would stay for the new episodes. They should have went back to default (heroic) and after the season, returned to Legendary.

Please don’t say not to say fun is subjective, because that is a tired excuse. It is subjective. I enjoy the buffed difficulty. 4 player Heroic is simply a race for who can get to the end fastest. That, to me, is boring. I can do Heroic on my own, with minimal deaths.

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> > Spartan Op, even on Legendary poses no form of challenge.
> > Might as well have it set on the difficulty with the highest XP payout.
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> Its supposed to be fun. Please dont say fun is subjective, because that is a tired forum speak, uttered only by elitists. At that difficulty its a slow slog to the end of the match. Nothing was ever said that after the infinity challenge that it would stay for the new episodes. They should have went back to default (heroic) and after the season, returned to Legendary.

Please don’t say not to say fun is subjective, because that is a tired excuse, uttered only by those who don’t care to go beyond their own, feeble, mental capacities. It is subjective. I enjoy the buffed difficulty. 4 player Heroic is simply a race for who can get to the end fastest. That, to me, is boring. I can do Heroic on my own, with minimal deaths.

I too enjoy SO on the legendary difficulty.

Even with a team of randoms, many SO missions took less than ten minutes to finish.

I would guess that the switch to legendary was because otherwise it was far too easy to finish.

If you’re not playing in MM, I’m pretty sure you can set the difficulty.

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i am glad that you found it necessary to insult me in an unclever way. Rather than present a factual or logical arguement.

> > Spartan Op, even on Legendary poses no form of challenge.
> > Might as well have it set on the difficulty with the highest XP payout.
>
> Its supposed to be fun. Please dont say fun is subjective, because that is a tired forum speak, uttered only by elitists. At that difficulty its a slow slog to the end of the match. Nothing was ever said that after the infinity challenge that it would stay for the new episodes. They should have went back to default (heroic) and after the season, returned to Legendary.

“I play the Campaign for fun.”
“I play Spartan Ops for fun.”
“I rank up for fun.”
“I complete commendations for fun.”
“I forge for fun.”
“I play customs for fun.”
“I scrim competitive teams for fun.”
“I earn achievements for fun.”

Everybody plays for fun. Otherwise, they would not be playing. Fun is different for different people because those people all play for different reasons. WHOA! newsflash

It’s not elitist. It’s just logic.

Logic.

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> > Spartan Op, even on Legendary poses no form of challenge.
> > Might as well have it set on the difficulty with the highest XP payout.
>
> Its supposed to be fun. Please dont say fun is subjective, because that is a tired forum speak, uttered only by elitists. At that difficulty its a slow slog to the end of the match. Nothing was ever said that after the infinity challenge that it would stay for the new episodes. They should have went back to default (heroic) and after the season, returned to Legendary.

Do you think before you post? I mean … at all?

“I play the Campaign for fun.”
“I play Spartan Ops for fun.”
“I rank up for fun.”
“I complete commendations for fun.”
“I forge for fun.”
“I play customs for fun.”
“I scrim competitive teams for fun.”
“I earn achievements for fun.”

It really amazes me how people can spew all of this caveman-like mumbo jumbo with no concern for how stupid it might look.

Everybody plays for fun. Otherwise, they would not be playing. Fun is different for different people because those people all play for different reasons. WHOA! newsflash

It’s not elitist. It’s just logic.

Logic.

Because Heroic is a joke? I can’t imagine what this game is like on Normal, let alone Easy.

Perhaps there will be another Sec3 code that will require you to beat all the Spops missions on legendary. Like maybe for the “Guilty” emblem…

Have any of you guys looked at my suggested improvements to spartan ops thread to make completing them a bit more satisfying.

EG

have a set amount of lives, is one suggestion.

Have them play like the campaign, eg if all of the team is killed then go back to last checkpoint.

I also suggested possibility of adding in the campaign’s skulls like mythic.

Too me the problem with spartan ops is NOT the level design or what they are BUT the infinite respawns issue.

The difficulty actually scales to your party size. It is set to legendary with a four man team. With two people it defaulted to heroic.

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So youre calling me a stupid caveman? Very logical.
Its all right to have a different opinion than me, but it seems you cant do it with adding in your little jabs at my intelligence.

Because Heroic was a breeze.

> So youre calling me a stupid caveman? Very logical.
> Its all right to have a different opinion than me, but it seems you cant do it with adding in your little jabs at my intelligence.

I read that a few time and in no way did he call you a stupid caveman. Did you call anyone that thinks fun is subjective an elitist? It’s a cold hard fact that fun is subjective. There is nothing elitist about that. I would much rather play with 4 people on legendary.

> I read that a few time and in no way did he call you a stupid caveman. Did you call anyone that thinks fun is subjective an elitist? It’s a cold hard fact that fun is subjective. There is nothing elitist about that. I would much rather play with 4 people on legendary.

Well, he quoted my text, pretty obvious who it was directed towards. You may want to re-read it then.