Why is MC sad for Cortana not the Billions

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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You know, in Halo 3 Arbiter and MC are like Garrus and Shepard. Our people have had horrible problems with each other but we have to work together to save the Galaxy.

Now we all know that MC and Cortana was sad that the Arbiter( in their eyes was dead.) Halo 3 Heroic/Legendary MC puts his head down at teh thought of losing another ally.

Now this is what bugs me. MC gets depressed from Cortana dying but not, Thel, Johnson, Keyes, Miranda, Samuel, James, Linda and all the Crew of the Pillar of Autumn or the people who he considered his family the entire Spartan II generation to MC’s mind at the start of Halo 4 are dead. He is the last of his breed in his mind and he has to stand against all odds to do the mission they never got a chance to start.

Now that would make me go Emo. Losing everything i had and after 30 about 30 long years of War and no matter how hard i fought it victor wasn’t in sight it was just us holding out. But when he gets this A.I. and she dies MC is all of a sudden just cracked. That broke him. Why? I know the whole Halsey brain clone, but he knew that she had 7 years live. MAX! That is assuming that she was just made.

So can someone sheed some light on why 343i has decided that MC doesn’t care about everyone else. The last cutscene of Halo 4 at least should of been him meeting up with the living Spartan II’s and giving him hope. Than getting a message about what Thel was doing or have him meeting MC. Why wouldn’t he be there…a man that he thought was dead and probably the best fighter he has ever known just came pack from the grave.

IDK can someone inform me about that…why he is depressed.

Also…another. Why are spartan IV’s special. Why are they better…why…WHY!

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Because plotholes.

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> Because plotholes.

How many plotholes are there…does the plot look like Normandy after we stormed the beach.

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I’d say at least applying it to Johnson, Keyes, Miranda, Thel and the PoA crew, the Chief has been through more with Cortana

With the SPARTANs I don’t know why

I’d probably say it’s for people who aren’t too into the Lore

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> You know, in Halo 3 Arbiter and MC are like Garrus and Shepard. Our people have had horrible problems with each other but we have to work together to save the Galaxy.
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> Now we all know that MC and Cortana was sad that the Arbiter( in their eyes was dead.) Halo 3 Heroic/Legendary MC puts his head down at teh thought of losing another ally.

… Uh, I’m fairly certain Cheif knew that Arbiter was alive (for the most part.) Seeing as how it was Arbiters half of the ship that made it out of there…

> Now this is what bugs me. MC gets depressed from Cortana dying but not, Thel, Johnson, Keyes, Miranda, Samuel, James, Linda and all the Crew of the Pillar of Autumn or the people who he considered his family the entire Spartan II generation to MC’s mind at the start of Halo 4 are dead. He is the last of his breed in his mind and he has to stand against all odds to do the mission they never got a chance to start.

He did get depressed for Johnson and Keyes. I’m not even sure he knew miranda was dead, and he’d never really been “friends” with her like he was with Johnson and Keyes.

Samuel was the one who got kicked into space by an elite right? Wasn’t it cheif who had them send out a search party for him for hours? James… I can’t remember how he died, and as for Linda, there’s two things:

Linda didn’t die, and when it happened they were in the middle of a battle. Cheif then proceeded to carry her onto whatever they used to escape. There wasn’t much room for emotion, but I don’t doubt there was emotion there.

> Now that would make me go Emo. Losing everything i had and after 30 about 30 long years of War and no matter how hard i fought it victor wasn’t in sight it was just us holding out. But when he gets this A.I. and she dies MC is all of a sudden just cracked. That broke him. Why? I know the whole Halsey brain clone, but he knew that she had 7 years live. MAX! That is assuming that she was just made.

Cortana is a lot older than 7 years if I recall. The graveminds torture had pushed her into Metastability, which theoretically would allow her to live longer (mendicant bias is an example of this if I reacll).

He’s cracked because he’d be dead 300 times over if it wasn’t for cortana. When you have someone very literally inside your head for over 7 years, you’re going to miss them a lot.

> So can someone sheed some light on why 343i has decided that MC doesn’t care about everyone else. The last cutscene of Halo 4 at least should of been him meeting up with the living Spartan II’s and giving him hope. Than getting a message about what Thel was doing or have him meeting MC. Why wouldn’t he be there…a man that he thought was dead and probably the best fighter he has ever known just came pack from the grave.
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> IDK can someone inform me about that…why he is depressed.
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> Also…another. Why are spartan IV’s special. Why are they better…why…WHY!

Like I said above, you spend up to seven years with someone in your head, savingin your life, leading you through missions and telling you exactly what to do when it needs to be done, a bond is going to form.

And it’s not like he doesn’t care. Halo legends shows he cares, quite a bit in fact. He just doesn’t let his feelings get in the way of his mission. At the end of Halo 4, he had time to care.

He didn’t in any other game. When Keyes died he was on a flood infested ship. When johnsons died he was getting laserfaced by Spark. When Thel “died” he was busy not getting blown up by a gigantic ring meant to destroy sentient life.

As for the Spartan IVs, no idea. Never gets explained in the game, and I haven’t read the most recent books (I have a vauge understanding, but not enough to say anything.)

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> > > You know, in Halo 3 Arbiter and MC are like Garrus and Shepard. Our people have had horrible problems with each other but we have to work together to save the Galaxy.
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> > > Now we all know that MC and Cortana was sad that the Arbiter( in their eyes was dead.) Halo 3 Heroic/Legendary MC puts his head down at teh thought of losing another ally.
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> > … Uh, I’m fairly certain Cheif knew that Arbiter was alive (for the most part.) Seeing as how it was Arbiters half of the ship that made it out of there…
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> > > Now this is what bugs me. MC gets depressed from Cortana dying but not, Thel, Johnson, Keyes, Miranda, Samuel, James, Linda and all the Crew of the Pillar of Autumn or the people who he considered his family the entire Spartan II generation to MC’s mind at the start of Halo 4 are dead. He is the last of his breed in his mind and he has to stand against all odds to do the mission they never got a chance to start.
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> > He did get depressed for Johnson and Keyes. I’m not even sure he knew miranda was dead, and he’d never really been “friends” with her like he was with Johnson and Keyes.
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> > Samuel was the one who got kicked into space by an elite right? Wasn’t it cheif who had them send out a search party for him for hours? James… I can’t remember how he died, and as for Linda, there’s two things:
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> > Linda didn’t die, and when it happened they were in the middle of a battle. Cheif then proceeded to carry her onto whatever they used to escape. There wasn’t much room for emotion, but I don’t doubt there was emotion there.
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> > > Now that would make me go Emo. Losing everything i had and after 30 about 30 long years of War and no matter how hard i fought it victor wasn’t in sight it was just us holding out. But when he gets this A.I. and she dies MC is all of a sudden just cracked. That broke him. Why? I know the whole Halsey brain clone, but he knew that she had 7 years live. MAX! That is assuming that she was just made.
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> > Cortana is a lot older than 7 years if I recall. The graveminds torture had pushed her into Metastability, which theoretically would allow her to live longer (mendicant bias is an example of this if I reacll).
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> > He’s cracked because he’d be dead 300 times over if it wasn’t for cortana. When you have someone very literally inside your head for over 7 years, you’re going to miss them a lot.
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> > > So can someone sheed some light on why 343i has decided that MC doesn’t care about everyone else. The last cutscene of Halo 4 at least should of been him meeting up with the living Spartan II’s and giving him hope. Than getting a message about what Thel was doing or have him meeting MC. Why wouldn’t he be there…a man that he thought was dead and probably the best fighter he has ever known just came pack from the grave.
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> > > IDK can someone inform me about that…why he is depressed.
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> > > Also…another. Why are spartan IV’s special. Why are they better…why…WHY!
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> > Like I said above, you spend up to seven years with someone in your head, savingin your life, leading you through missions and telling you exactly what to do when it needs to be done, a bond is going to form.
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> > And it’s not like he doesn’t care. Halo legends shows he cares, quite a bit in fact. He just doesn’t let his feelings get in the way of his mission. At the end of Halo 4, he had time to care.
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> > He didn’t in any other game. When Keyes died he was on a flood infested ship. When johnsons died he was getting laserfaced by Spark. When Thel “died” he was busy not getting blown up by a gigantic ring meant to destroy sentient life.
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> > As for the Spartan IVs, no idea. Never gets explained in the game, and I haven’t read the most recent books (I have a vauge understanding, but not enough to say anything.)

  1. No, Cortana said we made it to the portal. Well…some of us.

  2. MC knew she was dead he saw her corpse in Johnson’s arms. Are you mad?! Linda was technically dead. But they revived her. What…MC meet Cortana in 2552 and she even says in Halo 4 that she was made 8 years ago. Also in Halo Ce it is all about keeping Cortana safe, all she does is prove her worth in combat and MC was the best person to guard her.

3.She wasn’t in his head for 7 years. Barley clocking in a week. He had her in Halo CE than turned her over when they got to Earth and reinserted her so she could detective the Covenant Bomb aboard Cairo Station then he left her at High Charity. i know he didn’t have time but why have her AI chip like a necklace. Why not have something for his dead spartan brothers and sisters. He had plenty of time to do that before Halo 2 started.

  1. Thanks for the S IV input I am confused about them as Spartans. I don’t like them and i would prefer ODST and Spartan II’s or III’s.
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> > You know, in Halo 3 Arbiter and MC are like Garrus and Shepard. Our people have had horrible problems with each other but we have to work together to save the Galaxy.
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> > Now we all know that MC and Cortana was sad that the Arbiter( in their eyes was dead.) Halo 3 Heroic/Legendary MC puts his head down at teh thought of losing another ally.
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> … Uh, I’m fairly certain Cheif knew that Arbiter was alive (for the most part.) Seeing as how it was Arbiters half of the ship that made it out of there…
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> > Now that would make me go Emo. Losing everything i had and after 30 about 30 long years of War and no matter how hard i fought it victor wasn’t in sight it was just us holding out. But when he gets this A.I. and she dies MC is all of a sudden just cracked. That broke him. Why? I know the whole Halsey brain clone, but he knew that she had 7 years live. MAX! That is assuming that she was just made.
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> Cortana is a lot older than 7 years if I recall. The graveminds torture had pushed her into Metastability, which theoretically would allow her to live longer (mendicant bias is an example of this if I reacll).
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> He’s cracked because he’d be dead 300 times over if it wasn’t for cortana. When you have someone very literally inside your head for over 7 years, you’re going to miss them a lot.
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> > So can someone sheed some light on why 343i has decided that MC doesn’t care about everyone else. The last cutscene of Halo 4 at least should of been him meeting up with the living Spartan II’s and giving him hope. Than getting a message about what Thel was doing or have him meeting MC. Why wouldn’t he be there…a man that he thought was dead and probably the best fighter he has ever known just came pack from the grave.
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> > IDK can someone inform me about that…why he is depressed.
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> > Also…another. Why are spartan IV’s special. Why are they better…why…WHY!
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> Like I said above, you spend up to seven years with someone in your head, savingin your life, leading you through missions and telling you exactly what to do when it needs to be done, a bond is going to form.
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> And it’s not like he doesn’t care. Halo legends shows he cares, quite a bit in fact. He just doesn’t let his feelings get in the way of his mission. At the end of Halo 4, he had time to care.
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> He didn’t in any other game. When Keyes died he was on a flood infested ship. When johnsons died he was getting laserfaced by Spark. When Thel “died” he was busy not getting blown up by a gigantic ring meant to destroy sentient life.
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> As for the Spartan IVs, no idea. Never gets explained in the game, and I haven’t read the most recent books (I have a vauge understanding, but not enough to say anything.)

Chief did not know the Arbiter made it out, that is impossible for Chief to know.

Cortana was not with Chief for 7 years, only a couple of months at most when Chief was conscious. Also, Cortana didn’t save his life hundreds of times. The only time I can really recall is from the book The Flood when they were in the Library.

Also, Cortana was not metastable. She was going to die, she was going rampant, Gravemind only helped with making her go rampant by torturing her.

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If someone close to you dies you’ll feel way more sad than people you barely knew.
When people die in the news I don’t feel particularly sad, heck I dont feel anything different.
But if someone close to me died I’d feel sad

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> You know, in Halo 3 Arbiter and MC are like Garrus and Shepard. Our people have had horrible problems with each other but we have to work together to save the Galaxy.
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> Now we all know that MC and Cortana was sad that the Arbiter( in their eyes was dead.) Halo 3 Heroic/Legendary MC puts his head down at teh thought of losing another ally.
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> Now this is what bugs me. MC gets depressed from Cortana dying but not, Thel, Johnson, Keyes, Miranda, Samuel, James, Linda and all the Crew of the Pillar of Autumn or the people who he considered his family the entire Spartan II generation to MC’s mind at the start of Halo 4 are dead. He is the last of his breed in his mind and he has to stand against all odds to do the mission they never got a chance to start.
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> Now that would make me go Emo. Losing everything i had and after 30 about 30 long years of War and no matter how hard i fought it victor wasn’t in sight it was just us holding out. But when he gets this A.I. and she dies MC is all of a sudden just cracked. That broke him. Why? I know the whole Halsey brain clone, but he knew that she had 7 years live. MAX! That is assuming that she was just made.
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> So can someone sheed some light on why 343i has decided that MC doesn’t care about everyone else. The last cutscene of Halo 4 at least should of been him meeting up with the living Spartan II’s and giving him hope. Than getting a message about what Thel was doing or have him meeting MC. Why wouldn’t he be there…a man that he thought was dead and probably the best fighter he has ever known just came pack from the grave.
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> IDK can someone inform me about that…why he is depressed.
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> Also…another. Why are spartan IV’s special. Why are they better…why…WHY!

The death of Samuel was the first death he experienced, and it shook Chief a bit.

You could physically see that Chief was sad when Miranda died. In the cutscene, he looks caught off guard with it, and he’s just staring at her.

I do wish there was even a slight mention of the Arbiter. Seriously.

Chief rushed out and grabbed Linda and dragged her to the Pelican, if I remember correctly. Not sure though. But in First Strike, she’s alive and with Chief, so it’s fine.

Chief was really only with Keyes for a little bit.

I think Johnson’s death should’ve been a bit more emotional, but Chief obviously felt something.

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> If someone close to you dies you’ll feel way more sad than people you barely knew.
> When people die in the news I don’t feel particularly sad, heck I dont feel anything different.
> But if someone close to me died I’d feel sad

Naturally. But when you put Cortana’s Death up to someone like Johnson’s Death it doesn’t compare. Maybe he feels bad for letting her die because one of the last things Johnson told him was. Don’t let her go. But when she dies we have a whole game of depression about it, when pretty much everyone he knows dies, after a few moments he shrugs it off.

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> > If someone close to you dies you’ll feel way more sad than people you barely knew.
> > When people die in the news I don’t feel particularly sad, heck I dont feel anything different.
> > But if someone close to me died I’d feel sad
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> Naturally. But when you put Cortana’s Death up to someone like Johnson’s Death it doesn’t compare. Maybe he feels bad for letting her die because one of the last things Johnson told him was. Don’t let her go. But when she dies we have a whole game of depression about it, when pretty much everyone he knows dies, after a few moments he shrugs it off.

Why doesn’t Cortana’s death compare to Johnson’s? The Chief knew Cortana longer than Johnson (technically), and he spent a great deal of time with both. However, with Cortana, he spent significantly more time with her, and literally had a more intimate relation (doesn’t get more intimate than a mind-meld). And of course, with the end of Halo 4, John, in his eyes, failed Cortana when she died. Further, Cortana has always represented John’s Humanity, she was his closest connection to it. Johnson was another soldier, and the Chief knew how to work with soldiers. There is a much deeper connection to Cortana. The only people I would think the Chief has a stronger connection to are Halsey, Mendez, and the remaining Spartan-IIs.

> You know, in Halo 3 Arbiter and MC are like Garrus and Shepard. Our people have had horrible problems with each other but we have to work together to save the Galaxy.

Hardly the same relationship. Humanity and Sangheili (and thus John and Thel) worked together against a common enemy. It’s hard to say whether John and Thel ever actually became anything close to friends, but the Chief did overcome his (justified) hatred of the Sangheili Arbiter, and the Arbiter found himself respecting the lone Spartan. This isn’t exactly friendship, or anything like it, though.

> Now we all know that MC and Cortana was sad that the Arbiter( in their eyes was dead.) Halo 3 Heroic/Legendary MC puts his head down at teh thought of losing another ally.

Don’t know where you got this idea from. There is nothing in the final cutscene that indicated the Chief being sad about the possible death of the Arbiter.

> Now this is what bugs me. MC gets depressed from Cortana dying but not, Thel, Johnson, Keyes, Miranda, Samuel, James, Linda and all the Crew of the Pillar of Autumn or the people who he considered his family the entire Spartan II generation to MC’s mind at the start of Halo 4 are dead. He is the last of his breed in his mind and he has to stand against all odds to do the mission they never got a chance to start.

Really? Go re-read the books. When Samuel died, the Chief definitely had an emotional reaction. Same with James and Linda (though she technically didn’t die). And the Chief most certainly had an emotional reaction to having to kill Keyes himself, and to the death of Johnson. The thing is though, he was constantly going from one combat situation to another, with very little “down time.” The end of Halo 4 is one of the few times he get’s to reflect on what he has lost, and is very much in line to his reactions to the death of comrades in the books.

> Also…another. Why are spartan IV’s special. Why are they better…why…WHY!

They are special because the fourth generation represents a new milestone in the Spartan program. For one thing, SPARTAN is an independent branch of the UNSC now, no longer attached to the Navy. Second, no longer are children required to make Spartan Supersoldiers. Now, it’s all adult volunteers. The Spartan-IVs represent a paradigm shift for the Spartan program.

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acceptable casualties = everyone

unacceptable casualties = Cortana

or maybe Cortana was the straw that broke the camels back since no one else was really as close to Master Chief, essentially they were symbiotic for years and now he has no true connection to anyone

now the question is if Master Chief finds a way to bring her back, is she going to come back as she was or is she going to be a physical being, and could she be robotic/ organic/ cybernetic?

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Considering soldier do breakdown sometimes under very specific event that are often less worse than what they got throughout their whole service I don’t think it is that far fetched as some people try to make it be.

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> > > If someone close to you dies you’ll feel way more sad than people you barely knew.
> > > When people die in the news I don’t feel particularly sad, heck I dont feel anything different.
> > > But if someone close to me died I’d feel sad
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> > Naturally. But when you put Cortana’s Death up to someone like Johnson’s Death it doesn’t compare. Maybe he feels bad for letting her die because one of the last things Johnson told him was. Don’t let her go. But when she dies we have a whole game of depression about it, when pretty much everyone he knows dies, after a few moments he shrugs it off.
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> Why doesn’t Cortana’s death compare to Johnson’s? The Chief knew Cortana longer than Johnson (technically), and he spent a great deal of time with both. However, with Cortana, he spent significantly more time with her, and literally had a more intimate relation (doesn’t get more intimate than a mind-meld). And of course, with the end of Halo 4, John, in his eyes, failed Cortana when she died. Further, Cortana has always represented John’s Humanity, she was his closest connection to it. Johnson was another soldier, and the Chief knew how to work with soldiers. There is a much deeper connection to Cortana. The only people I would think the Chief has a stronger connection to are Halsey, Mendez, and the remaining Spartan-IIs.
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> > You know, in Halo 3 Arbiter and MC are like Garrus and Shepard. Our people have had horrible problems with each other but we have to work together to save the Galaxy.
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> Hardly the same relationship. Humanity and Sangheili (and thus John and Thel) worked together against a common enemy. It’s hard to say whether John and Thel ever actually became anything close to friends, but the Chief did overcome his (justified) hatred of the Sangheili Arbiter, and the Arbiter found himself respecting the lone Spartan. This isn’t exactly friendship, or anything like it, though.
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> > Now we all know that MC and Cortana was sad that the Arbiter( in their eyes was dead.) Halo 3 Heroic/Legendary MC puts his head down at teh thought of losing another ally.
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> Don’t know where you got this idea from. There is nothing in the final cutscene that indicated the Chief being sad about the possible death of the Arbiter.
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> > Now this is what bugs me. MC gets depressed from Cortana dying but not, Thel, Johnson, Keyes, Miranda, Samuel, James, Linda and all the Crew of the Pillar of Autumn or the people who he considered his family the entire Spartan II generation to MC’s mind at the start of Halo 4 are dead. He is the last of his breed in his mind and he has to stand against all odds to do the mission they never got a chance to start.
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> Really? Go re-read the books. When Samuel died, the Chief definitely had an emotional reaction. Same with James and Linda (though she technically didn’t die). And the Chief most certainly had an emotional reaction to having to kill Keyes himself, and to the death of Johnson. The thing is though, he was constantly going from one combat situation to another, with very little “down time.” The end of Halo 4 is one of the few times he get’s to reflect on what he has lost, and is very much in line to his reactions to the death of comrades in the books.
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> > Also…another. Why are spartan IV’s special. Why are they better…why…WHY!
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> They are special because the fourth generation represents a new milestone in the Spartan program. For one thing, SPARTAN is an independent branch of the UNSC now, no longer attached to the Navy. Second, no longer are children required to make Spartan Supersoldiers. Now, it’s all adult volunteers. The Spartan-IVs represent a paradigm shift for the Spartan program.

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  1. I really don’t see how it is too different. Shepard and Vakarian might not of taken part in the First Contact war but their people sure do have a burning hatred over it in ME 1 but later on it slowly changes. They accept each other and move on. In Halo 2 Arbiter is hell bent on doing whatever the Holy ones want. Than when Gravemind puts the two in a position where without the other they lose. Of course in Halo 3 MC is on his guard the split second he notices Arbiter but that is where the hostility ends. When Johnson gives MC that Assault Rifle.

2.If Cortana is affected by something than MC is because she is his humanity. We know she is like his inner voice and its not like MC was happy about hearing Thel was blasted into the next reality.

  1. There is little time between Halo Ce and 2. I don’t even think they even had a funeral for Keyes yet and MC just didn’t care at all. Also Halo 3 to 4 MC doesn’t care that Miranda or Johnson died. Doesn’t say a single word about them or even goes to talk to Stacker. But as well with other Spartans he sort of shrugs it off and is over the people he grew up with a mission later. They try to past it off with Spartans never die.

  2. My fault for not explaining the Spartan IV question but i was asking what is so great about their combat powers. It seems to me they are just ODST in armor. Aren’t ODST the best of the UNSC. Why would they need training some much if they are the Elite of the UNSC. I just feel they tehy are predend Spartans. When i first saw the Spartan IV’s i thought the UNSC found a way to use the drugs they gave to the Spartan II’s but for adults. I imagined Titans but they were just the UNSC breed elites. I understand they can’t be OP but the jump from the how the AI are seen to Teams like Majestic. How does that make sense. The AI are useless but Majestic is apparently so amazing.

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> acceptable casualties = everyone
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> unacceptable casualties = Cortana
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> or maybe Cortana was the straw that broke the camels back since no one else was really as close to Master Chief, essentially they were symbiotic for years and now he has no true connection to anyone
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> now the question is if Master Chief finds a way to bring her back, is she going to come back as she was or is she going to be a physical being, and could she be robotic/ organic/ cybernetic?

The first bit here was very funny to me IDKY but that is what i am trying to get at. After all those people get killed that MC knew even Spartans. Cortana’s death broke him. I do agree Cortana could have been the last straw, but not Halsey. Didn’t MC think Halsey was dead?

I say if she comes back she will be the Cortana he knows. What made Cortana…Cortana is she was cloned from Halsey and had forerunner intel. She just won’t remember all their adventures in 1st person. She could always read the reports and absorb them like the MC’s Cortana but it would be like explain an amazing time you had with a friend who doesn’t remember what happened.

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SO IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF YOU DIDNT READ THE BOOKS, AND AS SUCH YOU SHOULDNT TALK ABOUT STUFF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND…
The explanation:
The people that the MC has lost were soldiers, and the MC was taught that you shouldnt get sad when a life lost wasnt wasted, and all the people that was, technically close to the Chief, gave their lifes for something, and they were soldiers, so in the logic of the Chief he has no reason to feel bad about it (altough the books left to see that he does feel bad anyways), becuase they won after all and they all helped him to do so…
But then, Cortana is different, she was (and will be) an AI with a civilian behavior and is the only “person” that doesnt follow the UNSC military behavior, besides of Halsey, and as such, and the fact that they were so close since Halo, he developed a relationship with her different from the militar comrade style.
And then the loss of Cortana is like the straw that breaks the camel (or whatever is the phrase in english), especially because he loss the only part of him that makes him human.
IMO, his unhappiness when Cortana dies, isnt just for her, its burnout for everything that happened during his campaign, and how he lost everything, and now when the fight has finally ended (because he believes the Didact has been defeated, and he doesnt know that theres other Spartan IIs alive), he doesnt have anyone to be with…

Still that doesnt explain the completely lack of Thel in the history, THEL MUST BE BACK!!! BACK!!! AND THE OTHER SPARTANS TOO. MAKE IT HAPPEN FRANKIE :slight_smile:

And BTW i tought we all knew that hes gonna bring Cortana back with Forerunner tech, maybe even reverse engineery from the Promethean process…I want a happy ending…I mean, even Max Payne got his happy ending after 11 years, the Chief and Thel deserve a happy ending too.

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> Now this is what bugs me. MC gets depressed from Cortana dying but not, Thel, Johnson, Keyes, Miranda, Samuel, James, Linda and all the Crew of the Pillar of Autumn or the people who he considered his family the entire Spartan II generation to MC’s mind at the start of Halo 4 are dead.

Let’s put this in more relatable terms. A cooworker dies, it’s a bad shock but life goes on. Your neighbor dies, bad situation but it’s probably not going to break you. Your wife dies, bigger impact. You might think out of a misplaced sense of nobility that every death should matter just as much but the fact is that grief doesn’t work like that.

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Also Master Chief and Cortana have love for each other on a few levels, Companionship type of love and veiled Romantic love so how could anyone not be broken by her death

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> SO IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF YOU DIDNT READ THE BOOKS, AND AS SUCH YOU SHOULDNT TALK ABOUT STUFF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND…
> The explanation:
> The people that the MC has lost were soldiers, and the MC was taught that you shouldnt get sad when a life lost wasnt wasted, and all the people that was, technically close to the Chief, gave their lifes for something, and they were soldiers, so in the logic of the Chief he has no reason to feel bad about it (altough the books left to see that he does feel bad anyways), becuase they won after all and they all helped him to do so…
> But then, Cortana is different, she was (and will be) an AI with a civilian behavior and is the only “person” that doesnt follow the UNSC military behavior, besides of Halsey, and as such, and the fact that they were so close since Halo, he developed a relationship with her different from the militar comrade style.
> And then the loss of Cortana is like the straw that breaks the camel (or whatever is the phrase in english), especially because he loss the only part of him that makes him human.
> IMO, his unhappiness when Cortana dies, isnt just for her, its burnout for everything that happened during his campaign, and how he lost everything, and now when the fight has finally ended (because he believes the Didact has been defeated, and he doesnt know that theres other Spartan IIs alive), he doesnt have anyone to be with…
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> Still that doesnt explain the completely lack of Thel in the history, THEL MUST BE BACK!!! BACK!!! AND THE OTHER SPARTANS TOO. MAKE IT HAPPEN FRANKIE :slight_smile:
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> And BTW i tought we all knew that hes gonna bring Cortana back with Forerunner tech, maybe even reverse engineery from the Promethean process…I want a happy ending…I mean, even Max Payne got his happy ending after 11 years, the Chief and Thel deserve a happy ending too.

I understand that MC feels that way but those spartans grew up with him. They all saw each other as family. Cortana wasn’t in that loop why would he care for her. MC has meet civalins before and he didn’t seem to care if they died but Cortana. How is she any different than anyone else besides he is her guardian. So he wouldn’t get depressed over the Billions dead and those how failed but not the AI that only helped for hte last few months of the war but not those who gave their lives. NO doubt that she was needed to end the war but MC shouldn’t care if she was killed. He should of just shrugged her off like everyone else.

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Sigh OP your clearly not understanding our simple and easy to understand point that we’re trying to get across