Genuinely curious as to why it’s been nearly 2 years and still no HDR on PC. The xbox versions had HDR from the beginning I’m pretty sure… so what exactly is delaying the HDR option to be added to the PC version? If they ported the whole game, shouldn’t it be easier to port just a simple feature such as HDR or what am I missing here?
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> Genuinely curious as to why it’s been nearly 2 years and still no HDR on PC. The xbox versions had HDR from the beginning I’m pretty sure… so what exactly is delaying the HDR option to be added to the PC version? If they ported the whole game, shouldn’t it be easier to port just a simple feature such as HDR or what am I missing here?
I agree. So I use the “FAKE HDR” in Reshade. It’s not perfect but it kinda close.
HDR for PC in general has always been a bit of a mixed bag with consistency across a lot of games. It’s not a issue on console due to the fact devs know what the hardware is and don’t need to split development to different hardware.
I really don’t think this is a 343i/Halo based issue but a platform based issue.
Every single PC has different hardware specs that are going to handle HDR differently, getting it to work well on all of them is very difficult to near impossible.
Probably because there are dozens if not hundreds of hardware configurations that can support HDR with variable results. Xbox is easier to develop for because the standard hardware sets.
lol yall crazy… hdr is a display thing, nothing to do with hardware configurations. developers are just lazy af and ppl love defending em.
look up Special K and use the HDR widget. its the closest thing and way better than reshade fake hdr from the RTX mods.
pretty damn comparable to the xbox version HDR and proves it can easily be done.
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> lol yall crazy… hdr is a display thing, nothing to do with hardware configurations. developers are just lazy af and ppl love defending em.
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> look up Special K and use the HDR widget. its the closest thing and way better than reshade fake hdr from the RTX mods.
> pretty damn comparable to the xbox version HDR and proves it can easily be done.
HDR very much so depends on your hardware aswell as your software.
I really recommend reading through this thread.
PC HDR support just isn’t supported due to no industry standard for the technology on PC.
Even lower ends TV’s & monitors don’t support HDR, hence why there’s less HDR support for PC.
Its all well and jolly having “HDR mods” but in reality they aren’t actually giving you HDR just the illusion of it, especially if you don’t have a HDR display in the first place.
Your display colour depth and games support for it is a big factor.
Imo HDR is overrated. It’s not essential to enjoy games, just like 2K, 4K, 8K & RTX.
2k, 4K and 8K is for people with massive screens, if you play low res on a big screen it’ll look bad but high res looks clear and sharp.
but play high res on a small screen vs 1080p on same screen, you won’t see much difference in games anyway, movies will be clearer though.
HDR just makes scenes darker vs lighter with HDR off. sky looks brighter when looking up, overall scene looks darker. (in games) on movies, the whole image is darker.
> It makes dark stuff darker and bright stuff brighter. That’s what dynamic range means. Just as auditory high dynamic range creates a wider spectrum of loudness in both directions (quiet and loud), visual HDR creates a wider range of brightness in both directions (dark and bright), accentuating the differences between light sources.
honestly, i prefer hdr off for games and movies.
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> > lol yall crazy… hdr is a display thing, nothing to do with hardware configurations. developers are just lazy af and ppl love defending em.
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> > look up Special K and use the HDR widget. its the closest thing and way better than reshade fake hdr from the RTX mods.
> > pretty damn comparable to the xbox version HDR and proves it can easily be done.
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> HDR very much so depends on your hardware aswell as your software.
> I really recommend reading through this thread.
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> PC HDR support just isn’t supported due to no industry standard for the technology on PC.
> Even lower ends TV’s & monitors don’t support HDR, hence why there’s less HDR support for PC.
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> Its all well and jolly having “HDR mods” but in reality they aren’t actually giving you HDR just the illusion of it, especially if you don’t have a HDR display in the first place.
> Your display colour depth and games support for it is a big factor.
HDR depends on your screen as windows already has it built in. HDR10 is a literally a standard and included in MANY top AAA games, even on PC.
That thread (still mentions HDMI 2.0 instead of 2.1 btw) is 2 years old, when HDR was pretty early stages on PC and eh, but it seems to actually have a good point: licensing. I guess charging $40 for decade old games isn’t enough to get HDR licensing for -Yoink!-.
PC HDR is supported on MANY games man. Look up the HDR10 standard and games such as Valhalla, Far Cry, COD, Cyberpunk, Avengers, just keeps going…
Not sure what TV you are looking at, but nobody should be buying any TV that doesn’t have HDR in 2021 unless they are literally just buying $300 ones from Walmart.
I agree that Reshade HDR mods are trash but you should check out Special K first then talk about the illusion of HDR. It actually supports HDR10 and even allows luminance/paper white control. I’m pretty damn picky about this -Yoink- and still use Special K’s HDR implementation. I’ve compared it with the xbox version of Halo MCC too with LG C9.
I haven’t looked into Win11 too much yet but it does seem like they’re bringing something very similar to PS5’s always-on HDR toggle that should finally work for everything which sounds amazing.
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> Imo HDR is overrated. It’s not essential to enjoy games, just like 2K, 4K, 8K & RTX.
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> 2k, 4K and 8K is for people with massive screens, if you play low res on a big screen it’ll look bad but high res looks clear and sharp.
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> but play high res on a small screen vs 1080p on same screen, you won’t see much difference in games anyway, movies will be clearer though.
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> HDR just makes scenes darker vs lighter with HDR off. sky looks brighter when looking up, overall scene looks darker. (in games) on movies, the whole image is darker.
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> > It makes dark stuff darker and bright stuff brighter. That’s what dynamic range means. Just as auditory high dynamic range creates a wider spectrum of loudness in both directions (quiet and loud), visual HDR creates a wider range of brightness in both directions (dark and bright), accentuating the differences between light sources.
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> honestly, i prefer hdr off for games and movies.
Yeah… I’m guessing you don’t own an LG OLED or maybe just don’t care for graphics much. 4k HDR on OLED is another level of eye candy.
1440p is actually the sweet spot for smaller screens but I agree that you need at least 40’+ to properly experience 4k.
Also RTX adds a HUGE layer of realism… at an insane cost. Shadows and lighting are intense, but just tax hardware too much atm.
1080p becomes blurry once you adjust to 4k on a decent screen… and I’m talking about native 1080p screens looking blurry after adjusting to proper 4k, not just setting 1080p on a 4k tv, that will obviously look blurry regardless. but if you’re still using a 20-25’ monitor, then yeah 4k won’t do anything unless you squeeze your nose against the screen.
Honestly what you’re describing about HDR makes it sound like you have a pretty cheap TV/screen or wrong settings, sorry don’t mean to be offensive but it really shouldn’t be making the overall image darker at all… complete opposite as it makes it MUCH brighter and the more nits the TV has, the better the brightness ie HDR.
It’s clear that Halo developers don’t think of HDR as that important - it’s been listed as a minor fix for over 2 years now. Kaldaien and his tool SpecialK is a godsend as he fixes A LOT of things lazy developers love to ignore, most important to me is frame time but the HDR widget is indeed incredible. Makes the image really ‘pop’ just like true HDR in most cases, but there are some moments where you realize it’s not true HDR. Most new, high-budget, PC games already have HDR added, especially if they already have it on the console version. At the moment, I actually can’t think of any other game than Halo that has HDR on console but not on PC. 4K is very nice on an OLED but truthfully, not needed to experience a game properly, like Drahicr stated, and much more of a ‘privilege’ kind of thing.