This game fell off quick for some reason. You cant even use the call of duty excuse because Halo 3 still had 700,000 players a day (For 3 Years 24/7) when it came out in 07 and was able to compete with Call of Duty Modern Warfare . Modern Warfare also came in 07 and how a fairly decent amount of players.Whats wrong with the video game industry period lol, ever since late 2010 most video games have been pure trash.
A wealth of new games have come out since 2007, you know. Halo just isn’t the shooter anymore.
I don’t remember Halo 3 having anywhere close 700K players online 24/7 3 years after launch, Also if you look at the charts Halo 4 population took a pretty big dive the day Black Ops 2 came out so I think Cod very likely had something to do with that. I am happy with the population right now since I can still find a game quickly and Halo 4 is still the second most played game on XBL.
> ever since late 2010 most video games have been pure trash.
Well, that should answer your question.
Because reach blew and allowed cod to get a huge foothold with their yearly releases keeping hype high. With halo we needed this to be perfect at launch to keep players around but that blew. If reach was a halo 3 clone I think things would be a lot different now.
> Because reach blew and allowed cod to get a huge foothold with their yearly releases keeping hype high. With halo we needed this to be perfect at launch to keep players around but that blew. If reach was a halo 3 clone I think things would be a lot different now.
Actually, they wouldn’t.
Why can’t people accept this? People have moved on. I’m sure some did because of Reach, but making Halo 4 a Halo 3 clone would change very little and scare off quite a few new players on the side.
I think it is due to the fact halo 4 doesnt know what it wants to be. It is a class based shooter still trying to hold on to its arena heritage. And these 2 genres of shooters dont mix. At the moment it is sitting in the middle of being a pure classed based shooter or an arena one. And being a hybrid it appeals to no one. I came to halo expecting an arena shooter and we just dont have it.
> > Because reach blew and allowed cod to get a huge foothold with their yearly releases keeping hype high. With halo we needed this to be perfect at launch to keep players around but that blew. If reach was a halo 3 clone I think things would be a lot different now.
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> Actually, they wouldn’t.
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> Why can’t people accept this? People have moved on. I’m sure some did because of Reach, but making Halo 4 a Halo 3 clone would change very little and scare off quite a few new players on the side.
I respect your opinion and I agree if halo 4 was a halo 3 clone it would do nothing cuz people have moved on. If reach was the halo everyone wanted (following in line with halo 2 and halo 3’s greatness) I think we would be on too because we wouldn’t have lost our hype to 2-3 cod games in that time span between major releases.
If you don’t agree I respect that and we should agree to disagree 
I mean I cant tell if its because Im getting older (21) or are games really this garbage these past 3 years
> > > Because reach blew and allowed cod to get a huge foothold with their yearly releases keeping hype high. With halo we needed this to be perfect at launch to keep players around but that blew. If reach was a halo 3 clone I think things would be a lot different now.
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> > Actually, they wouldn’t.
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> > Why can’t people accept this? People have moved on. I’m sure some did because of Reach, but making Halo 4 a Halo 3 clone would change very little and scare off quite a few new players on the side.
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> I respect your opinion and I agree if halo 4 was a halo 3 clone it would do nothing cuz people have moved on. If reach was the halo everyone wanted (following in line with halo 2 and halo 3’s greatness) I think we would be on too because we wouldn’t have lost our hype to 2-3 cod games in that time span between major releases.
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> If you don’t agree I respect that and we should agree to disagree
Well reach really could not have been a successor to halo 3, it was a spin off. And for being a spin off it was ok. The problem with halo 4 is it should be a successor to halo 3 which it’s name implies but it is not.
All I need to say is that, people don’t like the game. That’s that.
> > > > Because reach blew and allowed cod to get a huge foothold with their yearly releases keeping hype high. With halo we needed this to be perfect at launch to keep players around but that blew. If reach was a halo 3 clone I think things would be a lot different now.
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> > > Actually, they wouldn’t.
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> > > Why can’t people accept this? People have moved on. I’m sure some did because of Reach, but making Halo 4 a Halo 3 clone would change very little and scare off quite a few new players on the side.
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> > I respect your opinion and I agree if halo 4 was a halo 3 clone it would do nothing cuz people have moved on. If reach was the halo everyone wanted (following in line with halo 2 and halo 3’s greatness) I think we would be on too because we wouldn’t have lost our hype to 2-3 cod games in that time span between major releases.
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> > If you don’t agree I respect that and we should agree to disagree
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> Well reach really could not have been a successor to halo 3, it was a spin off. And for being a spin off it was ok. The problem with halo 4 is it should be a successor to halo 3 which it’s name implies but it is not.
I agree 100 % on that. Especially with the false symbolism of the return of the Br and the chief.
I understand what your saying about moving on but like the saying goes if its not broke dont fix it. I strongly believe if Halo 4 would have went back to its very roots Halo 1 or 2 even, the games population would be significantly higher.
> > Because reach blew and allowed cod to get a huge foothold with their yearly releases keeping hype high. With halo we needed this to be perfect at launch to keep players around but that blew. If reach was a halo 3 clone I think things would be a lot different now.
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> Actually, they wouldn’t.
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> Why can’t people accept this? People have moved on. I’m sure some did because of Reach, but making Halo 4 a Halo 3 clone would change very little and scare off quite a few new players on the side.
> I mean I cant tell if its because Im getting older (21) or are games really this garbage these past 3 years
I dont think its either. There have been some great games this year. But the whole genre of fps is becoming stagnate. Look at modern military shooters, you can hardly tell the difference between them. And its due largely to the fact of cod, its a huge success that does not innovate at all.
Now in my opinion halo has falling into this. They have tried to imitate cod and mirror its success. Which frankly will not and can not work, both shooters held there own crowd and 343 has basically thrown one crowd out and not picked up the new one they were hoping for.
> > > > Because reach blew and allowed cod to get a huge foothold with their yearly releases keeping hype high. With halo we needed this to be perfect at launch to keep players around but that blew. If reach was a halo 3 clone I think things would be a lot different now.
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> > > Actually, they wouldn’t.
> > >
> > > Why can’t people accept this? People have moved on. I’m sure some did because of Reach, but making Halo 4 a Halo 3 clone would change very little and scare off quite a few new players on the side.
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> > I respect your opinion and I agree if halo 4 was a halo 3 clone it would do nothing cuz people have moved on. If reach was the halo everyone wanted (following in line with halo 2 and halo 3’s greatness) I think we would be on too because we wouldn’t have lost our hype to 2-3 cod games in that time span between major releases.
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> > If you don’t agree I respect that and we should agree to disagree
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> Well reach really could not have been a successor to halo 3, it was a spin off. And for being a spin off it was ok. The problem with halo 4 is it should be a successor to halo 3 which it’s name implies but it is not.
The problem here being that Halo 4 is the game directly succeeding Reach. If Halo 4 suddenly took a step backward and got rid of all AAs and such, fans would go “wait, what?”
> > > > > Because reach blew and allowed cod to get a huge foothold with their yearly releases keeping hype high. With halo we needed this to be perfect at launch to keep players around but that blew. If reach was a halo 3 clone I think things would be a lot different now.
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> > > > Actually, they wouldn’t.
> > > >
> > > > Why can’t people accept this? People have moved on. I’m sure some did because of Reach, but making Halo 4 a Halo 3 clone would change very little and scare off quite a few new players on the side.
> > >
> > > I respect your opinion and I agree if halo 4 was a halo 3 clone it would do nothing cuz people have moved on. If reach was the halo everyone wanted (following in line with halo 2 and halo 3’s greatness) I think we would be on too because we wouldn’t have lost our hype to 2-3 cod games in that time span between major releases.
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> > > If you don’t agree I respect that and we should agree to disagree
> >
> > Well reach really could not have been a successor to halo 3, it was a spin off. And for being a spin off it was ok. The problem with halo 4 is it should be a successor to halo 3 which it’s name implies but it is not.
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> The problem here being that Halo 4 is the game directly succeeding Reach. If Halo 4 suddenly took a step backward and got rid of all AAs and such, fans would go “wait, what?”
That was the logical choice for the game in my opinion. Reach was a spin off it was never meant to be part of the main trilogy. Halo 4 was supposed to expand on the main trilogy and should have then went back to the roots of it.
> > > > > > Because reach blew and allowed cod to get a huge foothold with their yearly releases keeping hype high. With halo we needed this to be perfect at launch to keep players around but that blew. If reach was a halo 3 clone I think things would be a lot different now.
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> > > > > Actually, they wouldn’t.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why can’t people accept this? People have moved on. I’m sure some did because of Reach, but making Halo 4 a Halo 3 clone would change very little and scare off quite a few new players on the side.
> > > >
> > > > I respect your opinion and I agree if halo 4 was a halo 3 clone it would do nothing cuz people have moved on. If reach was the halo everyone wanted (following in line with halo 2 and halo 3’s greatness) I think we would be on too because we wouldn’t have lost our hype to 2-3 cod games in that time span between major releases.
> > > >
> > > > If you don’t agree I respect that and we should agree to disagree
> > >
> > > Well reach really could not have been a successor to halo 3, it was a spin off. And for being a spin off it was ok. The problem with halo 4 is it should be a successor to halo 3 which it’s name implies but it is not.
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> > The problem here being that Halo 4 is the game directly succeeding Reach. If Halo 4 suddenly took a step backward and got rid of all AAs and such, fans would go “wait, what?”
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> That was the logical choice for the game in my opinion. Reach was a spin off it was never meant to be part of the main trilogy. Halo 4 was supposed to expand on the main trilogy and should have then went back to the roots of it.
Reach was a main game in the series and was quite popular. The only logical choice to be made is to go forward from Reach. I’m not saying Halo 4 is perfect, but I don’t think going back to Halo 3 would be the answer.
> > > > > > > Because reach blew and allowed cod to get a huge foothold with their yearly releases keeping hype high. With halo we needed this to be perfect at launch to keep players around but that blew. If reach was a halo 3 clone I think things would be a lot different now.
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> > > > > > Actually, they wouldn’t.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why can’t people accept this? People have moved on. I’m sure some did because of Reach, but making Halo 4 a Halo 3 clone would change very little and scare off quite a few new players on the side.
> > > > >
> > > > > I respect your opinion and I agree if halo 4 was a halo 3 clone it would do nothing cuz people have moved on. If reach was the halo everyone wanted (following in line with halo 2 and halo 3’s greatness) I think we would be on too because we wouldn’t have lost our hype to 2-3 cod games in that time span between major releases.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you don’t agree I respect that and we should agree to disagree
> > > >
> > > > Well reach really could not have been a successor to halo 3, it was a spin off. And for being a spin off it was ok. The problem with halo 4 is it should be a successor to halo 3 which it’s name implies but it is not.
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> > > The problem here being that Halo 4 is the game directly succeeding Reach. If Halo 4 suddenly took a step backward and got rid of all AAs and such, fans would go “wait, what?”
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> > That was the logical choice for the game in my opinion. Reach was a spin off it was never meant to be part of the main trilogy. Halo 4 was supposed to expand on the main trilogy and should have then went back to the roots of it.
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> Reach was a main game in the series and was quite popular. The only logical choice to be made is to go forward from Reach. I’m not saying Halo 4 is perfect, but I don’t think going back to Halo 3 would be the answer.
Reach was not a main game, it was a prequel and a chance for bungie to experiment. Going back to its roots is excatly what was needed for halo 4. Arena style shooters are few and far between now. 343 had a great opportunity to revive this genre of shooters. Instead what do they do, combine arena and class based shooters.
> > > > > > > > Because reach blew and allowed cod to get a huge foothold with their yearly releases keeping hype high. With halo we needed this to be perfect at launch to keep players around but that blew. If reach was a halo 3 clone I think things would be a lot different now.
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> > > > > > > Actually, they wouldn’t.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why can’t people accept this? People have moved on. I’m sure some did because of Reach, but making Halo 4 a Halo 3 clone would change very little and scare off quite a few new players on the side.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I respect your opinion and I agree if halo 4 was a halo 3 clone it would do nothing cuz people have moved on. If reach was the halo everyone wanted (following in line with halo 2 and halo 3’s greatness) I think we would be on too because we wouldn’t have lost our hype to 2-3 cod games in that time span between major releases.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you don’t agree I respect that and we should agree to disagree
> > > > >
> > > > > Well reach really could not have been a successor to halo 3, it was a spin off. And for being a spin off it was ok. The problem with halo 4 is it should be a successor to halo 3 which it’s name implies but it is not.
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The problem here being that Halo 4 is the game directly succeeding Reach. If Halo 4 suddenly took a step backward and got rid of all AAs and such, fans would go “wait, what?”
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> > > That was the logical choice for the game in my opinion. Reach was a spin off it was never meant to be part of the main trilogy. Halo 4 was supposed to expand on the main trilogy and should have then went back to the roots of it.
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> > Reach was a main game in the series and was quite popular. The only logical choice to be made is to go forward from Reach. I’m not saying Halo 4 is perfect, but I don’t think going back to Halo 3 would be the answer.
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> Reach was not a main game, it was a prequel and a chance for bungie to experiment. Going back to its roots is excatly what was needed for halo 4. Arena style shooters are few and far between now. 343 had a great opportunity to revive this genre of shooters. Instead what do they do, combine arena and class based shooters.
Of course it’s a main game. It didn’t have a number after it is all.
If you’re talking storyline, then I agree that Reach was a spinoff. If you’re talking MM, however, it most certainly was.
lets be honest everyone a 90,000 avg population for a 1 month Halo game is WEAK!!!