i don’t under stand why people are trolling halo 4 relly it’s stupid and it is all because some one see’s somthing “BAD” about it there just thinking for themself and comming up with bizare thing that will happen like “forruner vision” letting you see the whole map and no elites in multiplayer officaly we are not fighting elites and no trolling dosen’t get you the changes YOU want not what the fan want
Op, can ask you what is the point of a form if you can’t discuss things about the game? Are people only allowed to express positive opinions?
While I do agree that some people are being way too pessimistic about Halo 4, they do have the right to feel worried about it like that and are allowed to express their concerns.
However, there’s a difference between voicing concerns and straight out bashing the game…
> While I do agree that some people are being way too pessimistic about Halo 4, they do have the right to feel worried about it like that and are allowed to express their concerns.
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> However, there’s a difference between voicing concerns and straight out bashing the game…
Thanks for saving me the bother of typing these exact words. 
> While I do agree that some people are being way too pessimistic about Halo 4, they do have the right to feel worried about it like that and are allowed to express their concerns.
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> However, there’s a difference between voicing concerns and straight out bashing the game…
And the line between the two is dangerously thin here.
Because the community is scared of change. They want the same game every year like COD which they hate for not changing.
Paradoxes…
> Op, can ask you what is the point of a form if you can’t discuss things about the game? Are people only allowed to express positive opinions?
negative opinions are fine unless they are illogical and stupid. Yesterday i was on the forums and i saw HALO 4 IS GONNA SUCK the the person who posted that said. Halo 4 is gonna suck because it just is. Is there any good reasoning in that? No there isn’t, if you can’t back something up with something that is not stupid like saying such and such is a copy of cod, then why post?
> Op, can ask you what is the point of a form if you can’t discuss things about the game? Are people only allowed to express positive opinions?
why what some people say why the won’t get halo 4 is rediculous but thanks for the feed back
> > Op, can ask you what is the point of a form if you can’t discuss things about the game? Are people only allowed to express positive opinions?
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> negative opinions are fine unless they are illogical and stupid. Yesterday i was on the forums and i saw HALO 4 IS GONNA SUCK the the person who posted that said. Halo 4 is gonna suck because it just is. Is there any good reasoning in that? No there isn’t, if you can’t back something up with something that is not stupid like saying such and such is a copy of cod, then why post?
exactly
> Because the community is scared of change. They want the same game every year like COD which they hate for not changing.
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> Paradoxes…
Probably because the community isn’t just one person or entity. Different people want different things. The people who hate CoD for never changing aren’t the same people who want halo to stay the same.
> > Because the community is scared of change. They want the same game every year like COD which they hate for not changing.
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> > Paradoxes…
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> Probably because the community isn’t just one person or entity. Different people want different things. The people who hate CoD for never changing aren’t the same people who want halo to stay the same.
yeah and unfortunately when you have a diverse community it is hard to please everyone.
> > Op, can ask you what is the point of a form if you can’t discuss things about the game? Are people only allowed to express positive opinions?
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> negative opinions are fine unless they are illogical and stupid. Yesterday i was on the forums and i saw HALO 4 IS GONNA SUCK the the person who posted that said. Halo 4 is gonna suck because it just is. Is there any good reasoning in that? No there isn’t, if you can’t back something up with something that is not stupid like saying such and such is a copy of cod, then why post?
> > Op, can ask you what is the point of a form if you can’t discuss things about the game? Are people only allowed to express positive opinions?
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> why what some people say why the won’t get halo 4 is rediculous but thanks for the feed back
Not everyone is like that, but yeas there are some idiots on this form, i agree.
> > > Op, can ask you what is the point of a form if you can’t discuss things about the game? Are people only allowed to express positive opinions?
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> > negative opinions are fine unless they are illogical and stupid. Yesterday i was on the forums and i saw HALO 4 IS GONNA SUCK the the person who posted that said. Halo 4 is gonna suck because it just is. Is there any good reasoning in that? No there isn’t, if you can’t back something up with something that is not stupid like saying such and such is a copy of cod, then why post?
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> > > Op, can ask you what is the point of a form if you can’t discuss things about the game? Are people only allowed to express positive opinions?
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> > why what some people say why the won’t get halo 4 is rediculous but thanks for the feed back
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> Not everyone is like that, but yeas there are some idiots on this form, i agree.
true there are a few people who use logic and i respect them and their opinions but god there are so many annoying people on the forums!
> Op, can ask you what is the point of a form if you can’t discuss things about the game? Are people only allowed to express positive opinions?
What you dont get is that people are expressing negative opinions about things THEY HAVE NO CONTEXT on not to mention the game ISNT EVEN DONE YET ! so the things people are crying and moaning about have yet to even be seen in full gameplay form -_-
That what the op means. Speculation of something bad is one thing but thrashing a game over features you cant even prove are broken is just trollish and pathetic.
> > > Because the community is scared of change. They want the same game every year like COD which they hate for not changing.
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> > > Paradoxes…
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> > Probably because the community isn’t just one person or entity. Different people want different things. The people who hate CoD for never changing aren’t the same people who want halo to stay the same.
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> yeah and unfortunately when you have a diverse community it is hard to please everyone.
And when you have such a large community, as Halo does. Although, I have noticed just from any experience, both gaming and non-gaming, those who are displeased are often the most vocal.
So just because you see “I HATE THIS” everywhere, it doesn’t mean that those who actually like what they’re hearing aren’t the minority. Then again, we have no real way to tell which is which.
Because people are entitled to their opinion.
First of all, a majority of the Halo gamers are young males who often lack patience and life experience, not to mention can sometimes be a bit self centered. For some unknown reason they assume that what ever they think of something, is what everyone else thinks, and that what every they say is the right thing. They know every aspect of gameplay and Halo 4, even though they know nothing of game creating or even Halo 4 for that matter.
Trolling is a harsh word to use, since trolling requires knowledge and intent, most “trolls” lack both facts and Halo 4 related knowledge. Bashing is a better word…then again some things we do know, and some we can assume based on knowledge and experience, we know Halo 4 is p2p and we know p2p means bad multiplayer and lag. We do not know anything about weapon balance, ranks or similar, that are discussed all the time, then again, less knowledge makes for better discussion/bashing 
> First of all, a majority of the Halo gamers are young males who often lack patience and life experience, not to mention can sometimes be a bit self centered. For some unknown reason they assume that what ever they think of something, is what everyone else thinks, and that what every they say is the right thing. They know every aspect of gameplay and Halo 4, even though they know nothing of game creating or even Halo 4 for that matter.
> Trolling is a harsh word to use, since trolling requires knowledge and intent, most “trolls” lack both facts and Halo 4 related knowledge. Bashing is a better word…then again some things we do know, and some we can assume based on knowledge and experience, we know Halo 4 is p2p and we know p2p means bad multiplayer and lag. We do not know anything about weapon balance, ranks or similar, that are discussed all the time, then again, less knowledge makes for better discussion/bashing 
I know plenty of females at my school who love halo
> I know plenty of females at my school who love halo
And my grandmother plays Wii occasionally, does that mean the majority of teh Wii players are seniors?
No, do yourself a favor and look up some of the surveys done about gaming, you’ll see that the general 360 player is a young teenage boy, who loves hos CoD and Halo. Look at Halo 4, you’ll see that the gameplay as well as the decisions made are catering to the younger players who needs instant rewards to feel good, those who need to be acknowledge that every action they do is “good”, not to mention that they need some help camping to get kills (invis). With Kinect one can even argue that 360 is targeting younger kids, children, not hardcore gamers or grown males/females.
I bet that even if some random girls in your school even knows what Halo is (thanks to MS massive ad campaigns), few of them play it on a regular basis, and even those who do, are a minority compared to the boys.
> Op, can ask you what is the point of a form if you can’t discuss things about the game? Are people only allowed to express positive opinions?
That doesn’t justify trolling at the least.