Why i think the DMR isnt OP.

Firstly i want to get these things out of the way,

I don’t use the DMR, infact i don’t even like using it. The main weapon i use is a BR. We we being those of us who defend the DMR have read your reasons for why you think its OP, and we respect your opinion well, i do at least so, just as we have read your reasons, i would ask that you see our side of the story as well. And yes i know there is another thread on this, i simply wanted more people to better understand our side of this discussion.

Now that that’s settled, on with the discussion.

First things first, if you have been playing Halo for a reasonable amount of time, you know what the Halo Golden Triangle is, and that is Weapons, Grenades, and Melee, these are just 3 of many factors that effect the outcome of every encounter in Halo MP,

Along with that there are all the other things that effect every encounter like map control, where you are on the map compared to where the enemy is, what map it is, where your team is, how well you know the map, what AA your using and how well you know how to use it, how well you can use your grenades, how accurate you are, how good you are at outsmarting your enemy, all effect the gameplay, and its which player executes these concepts better that determines the ultimate victor.

Now, if the DMR was OP as many say, that means that it would have to dominate in every and any situation and come out on top every time, however this is not the case, as i said, to generalise it, its all about the player, the map, and the situation, that determines the victor, many people have killed DMR users with many different guns, some use the BR, Carbine, AR, and even LR.

The mistake many who think the DMR is OP make, i assuming that who ever uses the DMR will land every single shot, or at least, this is what it seems like they think, either way its wrong, nobody is 100% accurate, and every is susceptible to these things, like it or not these thing effect that outcome of every fight.

Now at this point i assume your wondering, why would i defend a weapon i never use? its becuase i don’t want to see this games balance screwed over the misconception that the DMR is supposedly OP, which i think it isn’t, it being OP or not is an opinion, not a fact. And while it does kill slightly faster, that doesn’t mean every shot will land, this is something many need to realise.

The Player, the map, and the situation are the key deciding factors that determines who wins a fight, if the DMR was truly OP, then nothing would be able to beat it, it would have no counter, but many have beaten people using it time and time again, that alone is considerable amount of proof that it isn’t OP.

Instead of simply making an argument as to why it ain’t OP, i decided i would do my best to help those who keep getting beaten by more skilled players who use the DMR. So what can you, the player do about this?

Its simple, find a weapon that suites your play style, learn the maps, and stay in areas of the map that best suite your style of play, but at the same time stick with your teammates, support them, stay near cover, try to put yourself in the best case scenario as often as possible, try to stay one step ahead and predict what the enemy will do. and don’t rush in, and try to use your weapon of choice at its full potential, as an example, the AR is best for CQC, while the Light Rifle is arguably best at long range. these are just a few ways to better help you deal with people using the DMR/BR/LR/Carbine.

So do you agree? disagree? have anything ya want to add in terms of advice? be sure to post below, and thanks for taking to time to read this.

TLDR

short version, “its not OP because i like it”

> TLDR
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> short version, “its not OP because i like it”

Read the first sentence of the first paragraph.

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> short version, “its not OP because i like it”

If you would have read even the first part you would know that i dont like using it.

I think they just don’t know how to counter the DMR, IDK anymore. I have counters to every gun and AA. If they just knew them maybe they wouldn’t think it’s OP.

> I think they just don’t know how to counter the DMR, IDK anymore. I have counters to every gun and AA. If they just knew them maybe they wouldn’t think it’s OP.

Indeed, just as i put at the end of the OP, do ya got any advice for those having trouble against DMR users?

Funny, a decent constructive argument is made as to why it is OP, and tons of people reply, yet when a decent constructive argument is made as to why it isn’t OP, barely anyone replies.

> Now, if the DMR was OP as many say, that means that it would have to dominate in every and any situation and come out on top every time, however this is not the case

And here lies the problem.

OP doesn’t mean “dominating in any and every situation and coming out on top every time”. In this case it simply means it’s effective in more scenarios than any of the other starting rifles.

Let me try and explain it this way:

If you choose an automatic weapon, you’re choosing to be most effective in close to close-medium range. You can’t compete with the other rifles outside your guns intended range.

If you choose a medium range precision weapon like the BR or Carbine, you’re choosing to be most effective at medium range. You can’t compete with the assault rifle in close quarters, and you can’t compete with the DMR from across the map.

If you choose the DMR, you’re choosing to be most effective at long range. The problem is though, you’re also as effective as the medium ranged weapons. More effective, even, considering it’s faster kill time.

This doesn’t mean that the BR and Carbine are useless, obviously. They still have a function. It’s just that the DMR can do their job, and then some.

If the DMR’s rate of fire was slightly nerfed, it would allow for the other medium range precision rifles to be most effective in their intended ranges, while still maintaining it’s dominance at long range.

BR is UP is the problem. I started off using the BR and once I switched over to the DMR it became so much easier to fight off enemies. DMR may not be OP but BR is definitely UP compared to the rest of the guns.

Bull-yoink the BR is Underpowered. You get that thing in mid range, you’re dead.

Answer to BR AND DMR? Equip Assault Rifle, get in close, submerge enemy in hot lead dead. Add punch for extra flavour.
Alternate recipe: Shotgun ALL the faces.

I agree with RELYTNING, the DMR is too good at midrange combat for what it is… but I think another part of this issue is zoom-out when shot. I think that would help combat the monotony of long range gunfights, plus make DMR/Sniper users think twice before taking a shot while under fire. Why they took the zoom-out in favor of flinch is beyond me.