Oh man yes to #3. That is infuriating.
Also fix friendly fire, it should either be in or out. I don’t like being betrayed by a teammate in a vehicle who then scoops up my sniper leaving me powerless to retaliate.
Saw nothing but campaign, so the entire topic is irrelevant to me 
This game has no purpose or appeal. CoD and BF control the class based shooter market. This game is just a clone of those that happens to have a big name attached. Nothing more.
The worst thing of all this is that we hear nothing from 343. When something like this happened on the Bungie forums you would immediately notice an update about the whole thing.
> The worst thing of all this is that we hear nothing from 343. When something like this happened on the Bungie forums you would immediately notice an update about the whole thing.
Yea remember when it didn’t take 3 months to get things fixed. 343 should be embarassed.
I agree with almost everything except I do like the soundtrack. In fact I love it. But for the most part this game sucks now.
“3. The DMR is overpowered COMPARED to the BR
Why is it that the DMR has a serious advantage over the battle rifle? It is even easier to aim now with it then in Reach and the DMR wins 99& of the time against the BR. This just again proves how unbalanced this game is.”
Who cares if the DMR is better than the BR? How long have you played Halo? I’ve been playing for a LONG time. I remember when everyone complained in Halo 2 because the BR had replaced the Pistol from Halo 1 as the dominant weapon. Then, after Patch 1.5 came out, and made the BR even stronger, everyone adapted and used the BR.
The DMR is a great starting weapon, which helps people who are stuck in their base push out against people camping mid-map.
It doesn’t prove the game is “unbalanced” at all. Halo 1 and Halo 2 are considered the best Halo games in the franchise, and they had the two most dominant starting weapons, the Pistol and the BR. Please stop regurgitating the same broken arguments other forum trolls are using.
> Saw nothing but campaign, so the entire topic is irrelevant to me
That used to be exactly how my Spartan IV looked before I switched to the classic Mark VI.
It’s hilarious that the people who try to defend the dmr use it exclusively. If it’s not ridiculously op’s why is it all you use Hans?
> It’s hilarious that the people who try to defend the dmr use it exclusively. If it’s not ridiculously op’s why is it all you use Hans?
Did you even read my post at all? I didn’t say it wasn’t Overpowered. The DMR doesn’t make the game “non-competitive” or “unbalanced” because you have one strong starting weapon. Every weapon in the game doesn’t have to be equal and balanced. See Halo 1 and Halo 2. In H2, just because the Carbine or Magnum wasn’t on par to the BR, didn’t mean the game was broken… Everyone has an equal opportunity with the weapon. Additionally, the person who got the first shot with the BR in Halo 2 usually won as well. Was the game broken? No, it’s considered if not the best, one of the best competitive console games ever.
If the forum trolls got their wish, and 343 nerfed the DMR, People could simply walk down the middle of map to get the Flag, and there would be no punishment for doing so. It’s laughable to think people could get away with that on Lockout, Blood Gulch, Midship, etc… A strong starting weapon punishes people who don’t use strategy/creativity/logical thinking to get from Point A to Point B.
I feel like Golmember when as I write this, but “there is no pleasing you”. You can’t have it all my friend. Won’t happen…
> “3. The DMR is overpowered COMPARED to the BR
> Why is it that the DMR has a serious advantage over the battle rifle? It is even easier to aim now with it then in Reach and the DMR wins 99& of the time against the BR. This just again proves how unbalanced this game is.”
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> Who cares if the DMR is better than the BR? How long have you played Halo? I’ve been playing for a LONG time. I remember when everyone complained in Halo 2 because the BR had replaced the Pistol from Halo 1 as the dominant weapon. Then, after Patch 1.5 came out, and made the BR even stronger, everyone adapted and used the BR.
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> The DMR is a great starting weapon, which helps people who are stuck in their base push out against people camping mid-map.
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> It doesn’t prove the game is “unbalanced” at all. Halo 1 and Halo 2 are considered the best Halo games in the franchise, and they had the two most dominant starting weapons, the Pistol and the BR. Please stop regurgitating the same broken arguments other forum trolls are using.
The DMR is the most overpowered precision weapon in the game. There is enough evidence to make that conclusion. How is that a broken argument, again?
> “3. The DMR is overpowered COMPARED to the BR
> Why is it that the DMR has a serious advantage over the battle rifle? It is even easier to aim now with it then in Reach and the DMR wins 99& of the time against the BR. This just again proves how unbalanced this game is.”
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> Who cares if the DMR is better than the BR? How long have you played Halo? I’ve been playing for a LONG time. I remember when everyone complained in Halo 2 because the BR had replaced the Pistol from Halo 1 as the dominant weapon. Then, after Patch 1.5 came out, and made the BR even stronger, everyone adapted and used the BR.
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> The DMR is a great starting weapon, which helps people who are stuck in their base push out against people camping mid-map.
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> It doesn’t prove the game is “unbalanced” at all. Halo 1 and Halo 2 are considered the best Halo games in the franchise, and they had the two most dominant starting weapons, the Pistol and the BR. Please stop regurgitating the same broken arguments other forum trolls are using.
The DMR is overpowered because it is the most powerfull and effective weapon at all ranges. If you have a medium range duel between a DMR and a BR the DMR will 9/10 win because it is so much more powerfull then the BR. The 1/10 depends on the players skill. The DMR is made for long range, then it should be alot less effective from medium to close range which it isn’t. It actually is still stronger then.
People are a bit too harsh on Halo 4 sometimes it’s kind of demoralizing.
Is there a reason this thread was revived after a month of inactivity?
And this thread was made before we knew some details of how 343i is fixing things and things havee been fixed and added.
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So far i don’t notice any of the things i described getting fixed except the specializations issue with Europe. Doesn’t matter i already sold Halo 4, i’m done with this franchise. I suggest you try out Battlefield 3. That’s a game without a ret.a.r.ded studio creating it. Money milking Microsoft boot lickers.
I agree with everything but the Mantis point you make… How can you even say that thing is OP whena single DMR can destroy it and have ammo to spare? Not to mention the fact that you can spawn with plasma pistol and nades…
If anything the Mantis needs to be buffed to be useful. Right now it’s just a big bullet sponge that cant kill anything.
All you have to do is sit back and unload your DMR on it from across the map… which pretty much sums up the whole Halo 4 mp experience lol
True, but when there is literally no power weapon on the map, your team doesn’t pay any attention to it at all, and you’re the only one trying to do anything about it then it is OP.
Trust me you will hate the thing at moments like that. And because of this AWESOME new ordnance system everybody knows where the power weapons spawn. So while you’re already getting dominated by the Mantis you have to fight the whole enemy team including the Mantis for the power weapon which you of course lose because your team is doing, well i don’t know what goes trough their heads but it’s not intelligent. So do you get my point?
PS: The last sentence is so true
I agree with everything you just said, except for the part about the mantis. It’s very easy to take down if you direct team fire on it, and let’s not even get started with the fact that plasma pistols and stickies can be spawned with…
Agreed, but for team focus fire you need a team that is focus firing and that is my problem 9/10 of the time. As for the stickies i find them a bit weak actually. Since when did it take two stickies to take down a Ghost? But with the plasma pistol is is do-able i guess.