I want to play Halo, I have an Xbox One, but there is always two things that stop me from having fun…
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The FoV is always too narrow, it makes me feel ill, it’s like looking through two toilet roll tubes. I’m looking at video footage of the game and I just want to double that FoV, it makes me so ill not having any peripheral vision.
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The Lobby system… now I’m not sure how Halo works these days but every console FPS seems to have these annoying lobbies. You end up spending most of your time waiting in them, people constantly drop out, it’s very annoying and you cannot build up any communities. CS:GO gets Matchmaking right, you just get placed into a game (most of the time in progress) and when the match ends, you have a quick map vote, you’re instantly sent there and you just have a warm up round to get yourself prepared. You don’t have this stupid Lobby system with so much downtime, you don’t have people leaving the game,then finding yourself players down for the rest of the game.
As for my comment about communities, you need Server Browsers, I love finding servers I enjoy and just playing them for years. I’ve played the exact same TF2 server for 7 years now, the same goes with RVS and RTCW and all my favourite PC FPS games. It’s a highly valuable thing to have because it ensures that you’ll have the experience you like guarantied every night. When it’s just left to Matchmaking, you might have a terrible time one night, a good one the other. I accept Matchmaking needs to be there for competitive play like CS:GO, but I also want a Server Browser with player owned servers for casual play.
Until console FPS games catch up to the PC here, I just cannot play them, especially the FoV… I was going to complain about how you cannot remap the controls, I hate all the standard options, but I’m guessing the Elite controller is fixing that.
Ok so you came onto a Halo forum to complain about console gaming? I have both a PC and several consoles. Why? Exclusives. If you “want to play Halo” then you’ll just have to suck it up and deal with it or just play campaign (which there is nothing wrong with).
You clearly care enough to make a thread complaining about not caring in a Halo forum.
tbh Halo isn’t so bad with Console FOV since we have motion trackers. But if you’re that used to a high FOV then I can see it being hard to acclimatize.
Imo, I have no problems with the lobby system, probably because I just create a party with my friends and go into matchmaking. But I would like to see a server browser for Custom Games, hopefully before the franchise ends. Once that happens Halo might as well be the best console multiplayer game of the decade.
I’m leaving a thread on the forum hoping they’ll make these two changes, If you don’t give feedback, then how are they meant to know?
I just don’t see why everyone has to act like there cannot be options? It’s a simple FoV slider, GTA V even had one on the PS4/Xbox One… though it did very little in that game.
As for the online, why wouldn’t the developers want to improve upon it?
Called Feedback.
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> tbh Halo isn’t so bad with Console FOV since we have motion trackers. But if you’re that used to a high FOV then I can see it being hard to acclimatize.
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> Imo, I have no problems with the lobby system, probably because I just create a party with my friends and go into matchmaking. But I would like to see a server browser for Custom Games, hopefully before the franchise ends. Once that happens Halo might as well be the best console multiplayer game of the decade.
I’ve watched footage of it and it makes me frustrated already with the narrow FoV, I always play around 110… I cannot stand games where it’s so zoomed in, makes me feel sick and claustrophobic. Like every TPS these days, they’re all so far zoomed in that it ruins it, like The Last of Us which was terrible!
I heard that Halo doesn’t let you Vote maps in Lobbies either? I just want to pick the maps I like, if I have to play a map I don’t like, I just wont bother playing, I’ll quit out.
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> I’m leaving a thread on the forum hoping they’ll make these two changes, If you don’t give feedback, then how are they meant to know?
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> I just don’t see why everyone has to act like there cannot be options? It’s a simple FoV slider, GTA V even had one on the PS4/Xbox One… though it did very little in that game.
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> As for the online, why wouldn’t the developers want to improve upon it?
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> Called Feedback.
If you want them to hear your feedback, posting on the forum isn’t the best place to do it. Dropping them a message on Twitter or such is the quickest way.
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> I heard that Halo doesn’t let you Vote maps in Lobbies either? I just want to pick the maps I like, if I have to play a map I don’t like, I just wont bother playing, I’ll quit out.
Nobody likes a quitter, nobody likes playing with quitters.
And “pick the maps you like”? With Voting you almost never got to pick the maps YOU liked unless they were already one of the 2 ~ 3 popular maps - all the rest might as well not be there because they get outvoted most of the time.
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> > tbh Halo isn’t so bad with Console FOV since we have motion trackers. But if you’re that used to a high FOV then I can see it being hard to acclimatize.
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> > Imo, I have no problems with the lobby system, probably because I just create a party with my friends and go into matchmaking. But I would like to see a server browser for Custom Games, hopefully before the franchise ends. Once that happens Halo might as well be the best console multiplayer game of the decade.
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> I’ve watched footage of it and it makes me frustrated already with the narrow FoV, I always play around 110… I cannot stand games where it’s so zoomed in, makes me feel sick and claustrophobic. Like every TPS these days, they’re all so far zoomed in that it ruins it, like The Last of Us which was terrible!
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> I heard that Halo doesn’t let you Vote maps in Lobbies either? I just want to pick the maps I like, if I have to play a map I don’t like, I just wont bother playing, I’ll quit out.
Congratulations, you’re just as bad as everyone else who does this.
Seriously, I’m curious to know how you guys get on in life when you come across stuff you don’t like, but have to come into contact with.
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> > I’m leaving a thread on the forum hoping they’ll make these two changes, If you don’t give feedback, then how are they meant to know?
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> > I just don’t see why everyone has to act like there cannot be options? It’s a simple FoV slider, GTA V even had one on the PS4/Xbox One… though it did very little in that game.
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> > As for the online, why wouldn’t the developers want to improve upon it?
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> > Called Feedback.
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> If you want them to hear your feedback, posting on the forum isn’t the best place to do it. Dropping them a message on Twitter or such is the quickest way.
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> > I heard that Halo doesn’t let you Vote maps in Lobbies either? I just want to pick the maps I like, if I have to play a map I don’t like, I just wont bother playing, I’ll quit out.
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> Nobody likes a quitter, nobody likes playing with quitters.
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> And “pick the maps you like”? With Voting you almost never got to pick the maps YOU liked unless they were already one of the 2 ~ 3 popular maps - all the rest might as well not be there because they get outvoted most of the time.
Well that is a massive flaw, you should always be able to play how you want to play. Like with BF3, all I’d pick is the Karkand pack, they’re the only maps I liked, if I couldn’t play them then I wouldn’t play the game at all because the rest are BAD! That is the history of every online FPS, few maps are good, most are bad, why would you play when you’re forced to play on the bad ones? By bad, I mean subjectively bad obviously.
Plus continuing to look at the footage of Halo 5, constantly I’m seeing people making mistakes when “platforming” because the FoV is too narrow. It’s very hard to judge where you are in relation to everything else when it’s so zoomed in, I’m constantly seeing people jump, thinking they’ve made it, then falling down. People trying to work out where they’re being shot from because they’ve got no peripheral vision or people just getting lost because the map looks a bit samey, they’ve turned around and lost how far they’ve turned around because the FoV is so narrow.
I just don’t get how any one can argue against obvious flaws.
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> > > I’m leaving a thread on the forum hoping they’ll make these two changes, If you don’t give feedback, then how are they meant to know?
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> > > I just don’t see why everyone has to act like there cannot be options? It’s a simple FoV slider, GTA V even had one on the PS4/Xbox One… though it did very little in that game.
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> > > As for the online, why wouldn’t the developers want to improve upon it?
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> > > Called Feedback.
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> > If you want them to hear your feedback, posting on the forum isn’t the best place to do it. Dropping them a message on Twitter or such is the quickest way.
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> > > I heard that Halo doesn’t let you Vote maps in Lobbies either? I just want to pick the maps I like, if I have to play a map I don’t like, I just wont bother playing, I’ll quit out.
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> > Nobody likes a quitter, nobody likes playing with quitters.
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> > And “pick the maps you like”? With Voting you almost never got to pick the maps YOU liked unless they were already one of the 2 ~ 3 popular maps - all the rest might as well not be there because they get outvoted most of the time.
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> Well that is a massive flaw, you should always be able to play how you want to play. Like with BF3, all I’d pick is the Karkand pack, they’re the only maps I liked, if I couldn’t play them then I wouldn’t play the game at all because the rest are BAD! That is the history of every online FPS, few maps are good, most are bad, why would you play when you’re forced to play on the bad ones? By bad, I mean subjectively bad obviously.
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> Plus continuing to look at the footage of Halo 5, constantly I’m seeing people making mistakes when “platforming” because the FoV is too narrow. It’s very hard to judge where you are in relation to everything else when it’s so zoomed in, I’m constantly seeing people jump, thinking they’ve made it, then falling down. People trying to work out where they’re being shot from because they’ve got no peripheral vision or people just getting lost because the map looks a bit samey, they’ve turned around and lost how far they’ve turned around because the FoV is so narrow.
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> I just don’t get how any one can argue against obvious flaws.
Perhaps because they don’t see them as flaws? Or because it doesn’t affect them as much as you?
As for maps, if you’re so determined not play a map that’s not to your liking, I guess that’s why they put custom games. But if you want to play MM, get into the rotation and suck it up
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> Congratulations, you’re just as bad as everyone else who does this.
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> Seriously, I’m curious to know how you guys get on in life when you come across stuff you don’t like, but have to come into contact with.
To be fair, while I hate quitters just as much as the other guy, I can’t blame them. They’re paying for XBox Live. They give Microsoft money and in return they expect something of value that they can enjoy. I wouldn’t pay for something I can’t enjoy either.
And that’s precisely why the second sentence falls flat. They don’t have to come into contact with bad maps. They just quit. I’m sorry, but that’s exactly what this option is there for, otherwise developers wouldn’t have put it in there. To be fair, even in real life, you don’t exactly have to tolerate an -Yoink- coworker or a noisy neighbor. You could always quit your job or move somewhere else. The question is if the merit is worth the efforts. And while quitting is discouraged, if it’s still worth for him to pay the price, then so be it.
Quite honestly, I also think that punishing quitters is the wrong approach. They’re still paying customers, and forcing them to put up with parts of the game they don’t enjoy for some small benefit later is bad business practice. In my opinion, the entire matchmaking system should be reworked. Have people vote for maps and gametypes individually and then match all of them who votet the same choice across all simultaneous players.
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> > Congratulations, you’re just as bad as everyone else who does this.
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> > Seriously, I’m curious to know how you guys get on in life when you come across stuff you don’t like, but have to come into contact with.
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> To be fair, while I hate quitters just as much as the other guy, I can’t blame them. They’re paying for XBox Live. They give Microsoft money and in return they expect something of value that they can enjoy. I wouldn’t pay for something I can’t enjoy either.
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> And that’s precisely why the second sentence falls flat. They don’t have to come into contact with bad maps. They just quit. I’m sorry, but that’s exactly what this option is there for, otherwise developers wouldn’t have put it in there. To be fair, even in real life, you don’t exactly have to tolerate an -Yoink- coworker or a noisy neighbor. You could always quit your job or move somewhere else. The question is if the merit is worth the efforts. And while quitting is discouraged, if it’s still worth for him to pay the price, then so be it.
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> Quite honestly, I also think that punishing quitters is the wrong approach. They’re still paying customers, and forcing them to put up with parts of the game they don’t enjoy for some small benefit later is bad business practice. In my opinion, the entire matchmaking system should be reworked. Have people vote for maps and gametypes individually and then match all of them who votet the same choice across all simultaneous players.
The people who have their matchmaking experience ruined by people quitting are paying for the service too. And if quitting early wasn’t a bad thing, it wouldn’t be a reportable option for players (Not that it does much good…)
Personally, I’m tired of playing on the same map dozens of times in a row. I don’t care how good it is or how popular it is - the same map out of a dozen every time gets old after a while, which in my view turns that “good” map into one of the “bad” maps. Because I don’t want to play on Ragnarok/Valhalla forever - I want the other maps too, which is something you can’t get with Map Voting. Map cycling you’ll take the good with the bad, but quitting because you don’t like a map affects other people too - negatively at that, for the most part.
You say you dislike the lobby system because people leave if they don’t get their map/mode, but you ARE one of those people. Server browser would only work for customs, not MM because Halo doesn’t have Join In Progress (Warzone, campaign, and customs/forge being exceptions) like TF2 and CSGO so it’s literally impossible. That’s the whole reason a lobby mode is in place. Map rotation is in there because it’s been a constant problem with all FPSs that allow map voting where only 3-4 maps get picked and the rest get left in the dust and since halo 5 will have 14 arena maps with about 10 more on the way as free dlc that’s a problem. FoV is a bit of a problem, but most people are sitting a good distance away from their TVs on a couch or something so FoV isn’t as bad as it would be when playing very close to a PC monitor, plus the motion tracker helps negate it.
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> > tbh Halo isn’t so bad with Console FOV since we have motion trackers. But if you’re that used to a high FOV then I can see it being hard to acclimatize.
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> > Imo, I have no problems with the lobby system, probably because I just create a party with my friends and go into matchmaking. But I would like to see a server browser for Custom Games, hopefully before the franchise ends. Once that happens Halo might as well be the best console multiplayer game of the decade.
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> I’ve watched footage of it and it makes me frustrated already with the narrow FoV, I always play around 110… I cannot stand games where it’s so zoomed in, makes me feel sick and claustrophobic. Like every TPS these days, they’re all so far zoomed in that it ruins it, like The Last of Us which was terrible!
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> I heard that Halo doesn’t let you Vote maps in Lobbies either? I just want to pick the maps I like, if I have to play a map I don’t like, I just wont bother playing, I’ll quit out.
Yeah, do us all a favor and stay away from console games. Nobody wants to play with a sore loser/quitter.
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> > tbh Halo isn’t so bad with Console FOV since we have motion trackers. But if you’re that used to a high FOV then I can see it being hard to acclimatize.
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> > Imo, I have no problems with the lobby system, probably because I just create a party with my friends and go into matchmaking. But I would like to see a server browser for Custom Games, hopefully before the franchise ends. Once that happens Halo might as well be the best console multiplayer game of the decade.
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> I’ve watched footage of it and it makes me frustrated already with the narrow FoV, I always play around 110… I cannot stand games where it’s so zoomed in, makes me feel sick and claustrophobic. Like every TPS these days, they’re all so far zoomed in that it ruins it, like The Last of Us which was terrible!
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> I heard that Halo doesn’t let you Vote maps in Lobbies either? I just want to pick the maps I like, if I have to play a map I don’t like, I just wont bother playing, I’ll quit out.
You are also the same guy on Gamespot articles that is constantly making bait comments
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> > tbh Halo isn’t so bad with Console FOV since we have motion trackers. But if you’re that used to a high FOV then I can see it being hard to acclimatize.
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> > Imo, I have no problems with the lobby system, probably because I just create a party with my friends and go into matchmaking. But I would like to see a server browser for Custom Games, hopefully before the franchise ends. Once that happens Halo might as well be the best console multiplayer game of the decade.
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> I’ve watched footage of it and it makes me frustrated already with the narrow FoV, I always play around 110… I cannot stand games where it’s so zoomed in, makes me feel sick and claustrophobic. Like every TPS these days, they’re all so far zoomed in that it ruins it, like The Last of Us which was terrible!
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> I heard that Halo doesn’t let you Vote maps in Lobbies either? I just want to pick the maps I like, if I have to play a map I don’t like, I just wont bother playing, I’ll quit out.
halo does let u vote on maps while in lobbies
I think this is a bait thread with staged “concerns”
Well, OP, it sounds like your options are as follows:
- Suck it up and play Halo with settings you don’t find ideal, or
- Stick to computer games that do have settings you like (maybe Halo online would work better for you?)
I’m not trying to crap on you or anything, but an FOV slider would be terrible for balance, which is arguably the biggest appeal of Halo’s multiplayer. The FOV needs to be the same for every player at all times. That said, I don’t have an issue with it being made bigger and having peripheral vision, but a slider that lets you choose is a no-go.
Voting sucks and has always sucked, good riddance. You may deserve to be able to play the maps you like because you paid for them, but in turn, I also deserve to be able to play all of the maps that I paid for. I shouldn’t be unable to play on maps that I like - and paid for - just because other people don’t like them and won’t vote for them. Your argument can be spun both ways, and both ways lead to “voting sucks”.
Personally I like a smaller field of view for Arena FPS’s. They are supposed to feel tight and quick. As for a server browser I’d like one for customs, but I like a competitive skill based match making also.
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> I want to play Halo, I have an Xbox One, but there is always two things that stop me from having fun…
> 1. The FoV is always too narrow, it makes me feel ill, it’s like looking through two toilet roll tubes. I’m looking at video footage of the game and I just want to double that FoV, it makes me so ill not having any peripheral vision.
> 2. The Lobby system… now I’m not sure how Halo works these days but every console FPS seems to have these annoying lobbies. You end up spending most of your time waiting in them, people constantly drop out, it’s very annoying and you cannot build up any communities. CS:GO gets Matchmaking right, you just get placed into a game (most of the time in progress) and when the match ends, you have a quick map vote, you’re instantly sent there and you just have a warm up round to get yourself prepared. You don’t have this stupid Lobby system with so much downtime, you don’t have people leaving the game,then finding yourself players down for the rest of the game.
> As for my comment about communities, you need Server Browsers, I love finding servers I enjoy and just playing them for years. I’ve played the exact same TF2 server for 7 years now, the same goes with RVS and RTCW and all my favourite PC FPS games. It’s a highly valuable thing to have because it ensures that you’ll have the experience you like guarantied every night. When it’s just left to Matchmaking, you might have a terrible time one night, a good one the other. I accept Matchmaking needs to be there for competitive play like CS:GO, but I also want a Server Browser with player owned servers for casual play.
> Until console FPS games catch up to the PC here, I just cannot play them, especially the FoV… I was going to complain about how you cannot remap the controls, I hate all the standard options, but I’m guessing the Elite controller is fixing that.
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Posted by Slannmage - 1 day ago
Does any one care about Halo’s story? I played the first two and it was really poor."
I wouldve thought it was the terrible story that was holding you back?
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Edited by Slannmage - 1 day ago
I thought people were over Halo already? COD 4 came out and Halo hasn’t sold the same since. I don’t find the story of 5 too interesting either, the whole thing of the Master Chief has gone rogue… or has he? Is rather cliche and been done so many times before, we all know he’ll end up being the good guy and then you’ll fight against the very people who sent you to hunt him in the first place.
YAWN… + Masterchief has no character, it would have been great if he was like Gordon Freeman, where you’re meant to be him and everyone is talking to you. However they’ve pushed away from that and made him into a shallow boring character who for some reason has some weird love interest in the form of Cortana."
Yeah its definitely the terrible story.