(I’m planning on not visiting these forums anymore for the most part pretty soon, but I have to create this thread before I do.)
Yes, 343, I’m bringing this up for the 1000th time. It’s been eight months. Really, WHY?! You guys haven’t even chipped away at the list yet. Here it is, just in case you’ve forgetten anything:
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst208941_A-List-Of-Things-343i-Removed-From--Halo.aspx
I can’t think of a single good reason why you haven’t even tried. Like what you said about “scratching that itch” in regards to playing as Elites, or bringing back Invasion, or letting us disable sprint and instant respawn, or being able to do ANYTHING with Flood mode… The list goes on (literally).
Is it because you have too many people working on the next game to do it? Because that’s a really lame excuse.
Is it to encourage people to buy the next Halo? Because this is only going to help ensure the opposite of that. You’re only making people lose faith in you, and I’m personally planning on getting the next Xbox only if it falls under each of these three categories.
It has:
- No DRM
- No extra-100-dollars-to-the-price-tag Kinect option
- A Halo game worth buying
Only one of which has been fulfilled so far. And I’m losing confidence in the third one ever being fulfilled, day by day.
I hope it’s not because you don’t want to live underneath Bungie’s shadow, so you’re leaving out things they created to make it as different as possible from their Halo on purpose. Bungie created Halo. You guys said you loved Halo. Bungie’s Halo is what you should be striving to emulate. (I’d like to point out now that Reach was less popular. Do you understand me?)
I’ve heard plenty of stories about people being wrongfully accused of some wrongdoing, or had it blown way out of proportion, and then they were collectively ganged up on by the media, the Internet, what have you, and I would have considered the possibility that maybe we’ve all expected a fairly young team of people to live up to impossible standards, but… Not only was I lead to believe that your team was supposed to be filled with experienced hands from all over the industry, but you’re also seemingly actively doing the exact opposite of what the vast majority of Halo fans want you to do.
You tried mixing in all kinds of things, like the shoot-from-the-hip headshot-based gameplay with “modernized” elements, but I’ll tell you a thousand times, and a thousand times again:
IT’S. JUST. NOT. WORKING.
Please learn from your mistakes for real this time. Please. Don’t just make compromises. Go the full way, and give us EXACTLY what we want.
This is not some pet project of yours, that you get to do whatever you want with. You were given the reigns of Halo because you were supposed to be able to give the, oh, I don’t know, 10 million or so of us what we wanted.
THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT.
I’m sorry, but a few tens of thousands of dedicated people that like what you’ve done with this game, well, it’s just not good enough to base all of your future games around this, and appealing to those people only. There are literally millions of people who played Halo during its early years, Halo 1-3 (which you may notice are the 3 games that people almost always refer to as their favorite one), and LOVED it, and would LOVE to play something like that again, except newer (NOT. “MODERNIZED.”), and with a fresh, big population of people to play with. So, Let me ask you.
WHY ARE YOU NOT TRYING TO APPEAL TO THESE PEOPLE?!
Halo 4 was pretty successful from a sales standpoint thanks to you guys making this game look awesome and keeping what this game was truly about a secret (for the most part), and it ended up selling pretty well early on in its lifespan.
It worked once. It won’t work again.
I’m guessing you expected the CoD fanboys to jump onto this bandwagon instead, but they didn’t. I guess you expected us to be OK with these changes, while you were trying to appeal to a “modern” audience, but we weren’t. You can’t appeal to both sides. Stop. Trying. To.
Ignoring millions of people in your potential consumer base (oh, who am I kidding? We were practically subscribed to you. We weren’t just a potential consumer base, we were practically guaranteed buyers, and now you’ve messed that up) is awful, not only from a satisfying-the-fanboys perspective, but from a direct business perspective. The thread “Dear 343, from a business perspective” comes immediately to mind.
It had tons of fans. All you had to do was give us what we were looking for, give us the core gameplay from pre-Reach that we wanted, and you would have sold us on it. Massive success was practically being handed to you. And you messed it up.
Ambition, evolution, and innovation are all good things, but evolution is only a good thing if it doesn’t change what the original game was completely, but, FYI (and I can’t emphasize this enough), ripping off another franchise is not “innovational.”
As I’ve said before, people wouldn’t keep playing World of Warcraft if, after League of Legends became more popular than it, they changed it into something similar to League of Legends. And no, League of Legends fans wouldn’t switch to WoW even after WoW started copying it. They would just stick with the actual original game, and not, for some reason, switch to a different popular franchise that had since just become a knockoff of it. (Not that I’m saying CoD is “original,” but you get my point.)
And no, even if there are ANY other popular games that were partially the reason you included some of these features Halo 4, it still doesn’t make it any better, or even what we want. Sprint is awful. I’ll gladly provide you with a bunch of threads that explore why, if you want me to.
Halo was always supposed to sell consoles, and now it looks like it’s something that some people might get if they’ve already got an Xbox One, anyway.
You know, you could at least give us the options to make classic gameplay available to us, and those options were obviously easily implemented (no sprint in Lightning Flag, etc.) but you haven’t given them to us, for no conceivable reason. Even if it wasn’t easy to do, it should have been high on your list of priorities. I understand that there’s some kind of lengthy registration period with Microsoft that you have to go through, and extensive testing that you need to do, but you’ve had eight months to do it. Why haven’t you?
The few people among you who were with Bungie all those years, you know how to do it, and one of you is in charge, for goodness’ sake! Just please make it happen. (I’m not just talking about the custom game options here.)
Trust me when I say that I don’t want to see this next game fail horribly. If Halo completely fails, you guys are out of a job, Halo stops getting made, and nobody’s happy. Please don’t do this.
I mean this in the nicest way possible: Just swallow your pride. I ask of you. I beg of you. Please. Just give us what we want.
For everybody’s sake.
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