Why has Halo changed for the worst!

Games Other Halo
1

My family alone has bought 7-8 copies of EVERY Halo game to this day not to mention the Special Editions/Xboxes… But no more shall you see our business nor anyone else I and our family know!!!

Halo 4 was supposed to bring me back to a game that I can play for hours on end and every day of the week id go to sleep wanting to play the game to get to the highest rank in every playlist and to fight to keep the ranks in my favorite playlists…

I LOVED the fact that in Halo 2 not everyone could get the highest rank easily and all the little things in the game that shown the noobs from pros like BxR and BxB and many other that I don’t know but many people that were amazing did…

Now your trying to get CoD kids to come play this -Yoink- game, Halo: Reach was a joke! and yet you decide to pull things from that game…

Things I’ve noticed wrong with Halo 4,

1)The Maps have to many place to run and hide instead or tiny openings where people can shoot you from without themselves being seen.

*)You easily get caught on crap in the maps instead of being able to strafe fluidly.

2)Your Multiplayer system with spawning in with PERKS (Yes your copying of call of duty!) of Tactical Packages/Support Upgrades/Armor Abilities

(Commenting^^^)- Why would you let people spawn with things that give an advantage without earning them by knowing the spawns or timing the spawns your taking the Competition from Halo WTF???

*)Your Hit Boxes/Bodily Damage responses blow as well you shouldn’t be able to KILL someone so easily in Halo it was competitive because you had to take their shields down then shoot get a HeadShot, and your hitboxes are ridiculous you don’t have to shoot anywhere near the to hit the its like they have a hit box of 2 Spartans not to mention you can shoot them in the chest and get headshots…

*)And why all the sudden do we get stunned while being shot in addition to my earlier statement that wouldn’t be so bad if they couldn’t just shoot us in our bodies as many times as it takes for someone to break the shields and earn a headshot…

*)Whats with giving people killstreaks??? why should everyone have a power weapon every second of every game??

*)You call this game competitive but all your doing is taking the strategy out of the game and implementing things to hide players or give them the ability to fly above the map instead of controlling the map for weapons and spawns… your giving advantages that no one has to earn they just spawn with them…

*)You shouldn’t have to have a class to try to counter everything in your game everything needs to be map based (Meaning Everyone uses the Map as well as KEEPING FEET ON THE MAP…

ANYWAYS I Could go on forever about how you’ve ruined halo
Why is it so hard to implement Ranks/Playlists seriously nothing on here is fun to play the game is no longer smooth or competitive…

Stop trying to compete with call of duty and you’ll get your loyal players back…

But until you get your game straight My Family and everyone I know is never buying your games from here on out keep in mind that 10-20 LOYAL Gamers are now going to call of duty since you want to try and mimic it soooo much…

You should have noticed your Failure since you only have 40-50 thousand players a day when it used to be 300,000+ Daily

Anything else I’ve missed and I know there is PLENTY MORE go ahead and add your thoughts I want them to realize they’ve screwed Halo by listening to Halo: Reach Scrubs…

AND A KIND TIP Add competitive Ranks and separate the competitive playlists and see how many people come back…Quit making everyone wait for what should have already been out!!

2

Stopped reading after you mentioned button combos seperating “noobs from pro’s.” They were never hard to do. And even if they were if you had to abuse a glitch in a game to earn the upper hand in a fight that makes you a coward. There is nothing skillful about cheating. And it sickens me to the core that you try to justify the abuse of a glitch by how difficult it may be.

3

Is it really necessary for us to have these threads every day?

Its getting old.

4

I am so god forsaken tired of people saying that button glitches made the game great. It didn’t.

If you want button combos go play fighting games.

Another thing it would be so nice if people moved on from the past. There will never be another game like Halo 2. (thank god)

Move on.

5

This post has been edited by a moderator. Please do not flame or attack other members.

*Original post. Click at your own discretion.

Are you serious your complaining about having a button advantage that everyone can use your scoping out one thing in my Topic that has hardly any value to what im talking about… yeah so what do you see how many cowardly advantages there are now??

Hiding with a sniper using invis on command

hiding and throwing down a regen on command

using a shield on command in the middle of battles

using abilities to look through walls ON COMMAND

you seeing a pattern here… SCRUBS you all are pathetic Reach kids

6

This post has been edited by a moderator. Please do not flame or attack other members.

*Original post. Click at your own discretion.

Anyone else that views this topic ignore the first 3 scrubs that commented they are the ones I was describing that use -Yoink- tactics and still have -Yoink- k/d’s as well as playing the simplest gamemodes that were made for children…

Your thread 343I are filled with kids you shouldn’t be going to for ideas to make a better game… seriously what have you done!!

7

> Are you serious your complaining about having a button advantage that everyone can use your scoping out one thing in my Topic that has hardly any value to what im talking about… yeah so what do you see how many cowardly advantages there are now??
>
> Hiding with a sniper using invis on command
>
> hiding and throwing down a regen on command
>
> using a shield on command in the middle of battles
>
> using abilities to look through walls ON COMMAND
>
> you seeing a pattern here… SCRUBS you all are pathetic Reach kids

No need to be harsh. That won’t get you anywhere.

If everyone can do it then why even bring it up? I quoted that because to me that discredits your entire post. Its not skillfull. It didn’t make you a better player to abuse something. And that is why i don’t value your opinion.

camo sniping has never been an issue. To boot we have killcams. So unless he can book it across the map in an instant he will be found.

What is exactly wrong with shield regen? Your immobile for 3 seconds while deploying. And any constant fire still drops you.

I don’t even know how someone can complain about HLS. Its a complete team oriented ability.

Your radar already lets you see through walls and floors. PV is only extremely helpful to those who don’t know the maps. PV has been seeing less and less use since launch.

And iv’e been playing since CE was launched so your “Reach kids” statement has no substance.

8

> Anyone else that views this topic ignore the first 3 scrubs that commented they are the ones I was describing that use Yoink! tactics and still have Yoink! k/d’s as well as playing the simplest gamemodes that were made for children…
>
> Your thread 343I are filled with kids you shouldn’t be going to for ideas to make a better game… seriously what have you done!!

If you actually took the time to look at my stats You would see im in the top 3 on my team almost half the time. And in the top 50% of my team more then 50%. If you look further into my stats i heavily play the objective. K/D is not important. If anything it judges how selfish a player can play.

9

This post has been edited by a moderator. Please do not flame or attack other members.

*Original post. Click at your own discretion.

but if you read correctly I said I liked that it was a close counter tactic that didn’t give an advantage except in the play against a slow group or when low on ammo or a tight spot just like cod kids dropshot same exact thing that make kids better than someone else the way you look at it you think it was something easy to pull off which is why I call you a scrub that and the fact that your most played list is flood because your garbage…

10

I don’t agree with button glitches but I do wish Halo would go back to its roots.

Sigh why didn’t Bungie just do there new game then pick up Halo and make a huge come back

11

> but if you read correctly I said I liked that it was a close counter tactic that didn’t give an advantage except in the play against a slow group or when low on ammo or a tight spot just like cod kids dropshot same exact thing that make kids better than someone else the way you look at it you think it was something easy to pull off which is why I call you a scrub that and the fact that your most played list is flood because your garbage…

I play flood because i enjoy infection based gametypes. I wasn’t aware playing a relaxing gametype made me a scrub. I didn’t realize i had to play all and only hardcore playlists. My bad.

Go look at any of my recent games that arn’t flood. I’m not “garbage” I just don’t have an amazing K/d Which does not determine a good player. I don’t care how much you like it. Your abusing a glitch to win a battle. Drop shotting isn’t a glitch. Try again.

12

> Stopped reading after you mentioned button combos seperating “noobs from pro’s.” They were never hard to do. And even if they were if you had to abuse a glitch in a game to earn the upper hand in a fight that makes you a coward. There is nothing skillful about cheating. And it sickens me to the core that you try to justify the abuse of a glitch by how difficult it may be.

preach brotha.

13

This post has been edited by a moderator. Please do not flame or attack other members.

*Original post. Click at your own discretion.

Yes it does make you a scrub when its your top played game… Which should also be separated as SOCIAL/COMPETIVE instead of being lumped stats

and I don’t care about your recent games and I wasn’t specificly saying that your k/d was trash the other 2 are horrid players as well…

and just because it was declared a glitch doesn’t mean that its any less like dropshots which I consider a glitch because even as you shoot players that are doing it you cant hit them unless you aim at the ground where they are going to be at

14

> Yes it does make you a scrub when its your top played game… Which should also be separated as SOCIAL/COMPETIVE instead of being lumped stats
>
> and I don’t care about your recent games and I wasn’t specificly saying that your k/d was trash the other 2 are horrid players as well…
>
> and just because it was declared a glitch doesn’t mean that its any less like dropshots which I consider a glitch because even as you shoot players that are doing it you cant hit them unless you aim at the ground where they are going to be at

Riiiight. Nah it doesn’t But then again i don’t cary a pro manuel around with me so what do i know? Whatever you need to say. Its still not getting you anywhere.

I told you to check my recent games because you insist on calling me bad. If you actually checked my games outside “social playlists” You would see im not bad. Better then average. But not bad. If your not willing to actually back up what your saying why bother saying it?

It doesn’t matter what you consider a glitch and what you don’t. Bungie defined the button combos as a glitch. It gives a clear huge advantage over other players. And you try to justify it which is the worst part. When your drop shotting your not abusing any in game mechanic. Everything achieved by drop shotting can be done normally. Not button combos. Your skipping frames and putting out more damage by doing so. All you do with drop shot is change your position.

15

> Yes it does make you a scrub when its your top played game… Which should also be separated as SOCIAL/COMPETIVE instead of being lumped stats
>
> and I don’t care about your recent games and I wasn’t specificly saying that your k/d was trash the other 2 are horrid players as well…
>
> and just because it was declared a glitch doesn’t mean that its any less like <mark>dropshots which I consider a glitch because even as you shoot players that are doing it you cant hit them unless you aim at the ground where they are going to be at</mark>

aim for their nuts and you will hit them.

good luck next time sir.

16

The amount of times the word “scrub” has been used in this thread so far is hilarious.

17

https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/InSaNe%20Defiance/home/

18

Ugh… Another one of these threads.

19

Halo 3 is best Halo IMO.

Im not a pathetic reach child. Altought Reach is my 2nd favorite Halo game.

20

> *)You call this game competitive but all your doing is taking the strategy out of the game and implementing things to hide players or give them the ability to fly above the map instead of controlling the map for weapons and spawns… your giving advantages that no one has to earn they just spawn with them…
>
>
> AND A KIND TIP Add competitive Ranks and separate the competitive playlists and see how many people come back…Quit making everyone wait for what should have already been out!!

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HALO GAMES most everyone on this forum claim to have played.

I dont know whats worse, the fact that people dont understand ANYTHING or the things they make up.

COMPETITIVE or COMPETITIVENESS has NOTHING to do with the game itself, the rules, the balance or the strategy. A game of beer pong has NO strategy and is played by drunks,but the amount of drunken effort and will put into the game is the definition of competitiveness. LOOK IT UP YOU BLATANT abuser of the english language.

NOW, if ANYONE here ACTUALLY played halo 2-3, without question they shouild know that people cared about winning on average 100000 to 1000000 gazillion times more. Than compared to the newer halos or most new live games.

Before each game was started there was often this tradition called “-Yoink- talking” I know this is all very new to some. THen after this happened the team would then focus their “talking” to help others on their team. I know I might be getting some of this mixed up since I havent experienced this phenomenon in a long time. BUT i think after that players would “talk” through out the match in a mixture of “-Yoink- talking”, and “team talk”. Im sorry if Im confusing some its soo hard to remember these times.

IF a game was lost often the team would offer up the worst performer on the team to a “verbal beatdown”.

These kinds of activities and others like it helped form what was once know as competitness.

These ancient traditions have now been forgoten and a new system of “Achievements” and “Credits” have been accepted as the new way to play.

I know I kinda went off on a weird tangent… BUT IM SO SICK OF THE COMMUNITY ACTING LIKE ITS THE GAME THAT STOPS PEOPLE FROM USING MICS AND TRYING TO WIN.

People often say “quitting halo” for what ever reason. GOOD. I RATHER HAVE 10 people playing the game who want to win and are competitive(see how I can use the english language correctly)

THIS ISNT A HALO PROBELM… every online console game gets less and less competitive. THE IDIOTS would say “YA cause of loadouts”. NO DUMMY a competitive player would not care what the hell you have he just wants to -Yoink!- you and get a win. THIS “BALANCE” or whatever people complain about doesnt stop me from beating u with a plasma rifle with no ammo. I would HAPPILY play a gametype where I could play people who want to win, AND they could pick my loadout. Cause a competitor would be fired up to make fun of them for the fact they won that way.

SO all this “COD” stuff they added. WELL… it was to accomidate the change of HALO PLAYERS not HALO.

YOU ALL TURNED INTO MUTE LONE WOLFS FIGHTING FOR CREDITS.

I conclude with…PLEASE dont play HALO ANYMORE. I dont want to quit halo, I want to quit GAMING its not the same anymore. not worth dominating dummys who gain satisfaction from fake numbers or symbols on the screen. Im 27 and have got every halo including the OG xbox THE DAY IT CAME OUT. I have been with this community since SECOND ONE on live. MY POINT IS I HAVE SEEN THE RISE AND FALL OF THE GREATEST GAMING COMMUNITY EVER.

ITs hard to see this once great community in DENIAL of its own self destruction…

I DONT WRITE THIS CAUSE I WANT THE DMR nerfed, a simple gun cant stop a competitor, but the enemies that I fight that try about as hard as AI from 1980 set “achievements or bust mode”… I rather go outside and play basketball by myself. I want to enjoy video games, and I dont think at this rate, I will be able to do that mcuh longer.

I BEG… DONT BE IN DENIAL… ONLY THE COMMUNITY CAN SAVE HALO