why halo is dying and 343 doesn't care

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I guess i did not make it clear the first time when i said halo 4 is not living up to expectations. The game was expected by everyone to fix the problems reach and 3 had but now you guy just don’t care how the game is just how much money you make. When that title update comes around i know 343 didn’t fix a danm thing and wont it got to they point were people give up and don’t want to play this game anymore. That’s when you begin to fix problems but ill put it like this Im through with suggestions because this might be every ones last halo they buy. You know why it got to the point were i don’t even look forward to the campaign anymore because it sucks more -Yoink- than a prostitute.

I don’t know if all of 343 is to blame

I would throw most of the blame on Microsoft who clearly just want our money. That’s probably why we ended up with Call of Halo Future Warfare.

EDIT: I voted no because they have yet to even respond to the communities disappointment and its been 2 months.

I think is because they didn’t really create the Haloverse and the passion isn’t there. Passion for making a damn good game is what is lacking in the gaming industry lately.

Take out (or allow the option to toggle) flinch and instant respawn.

Add more custom game options such as toggling sprint, flag dropping, the use of Specialization mods in pre set loadouts etc.

Balance out the loadouts (specially the DMR, Carbine, and Boltshot).

Ranked.

More smaller maps.

Spectator mode.

There, Halo 4 MP fixed.

343i did a great job with the games even though with a few flaws…and pfft…they dont care? If they didnt care would they not be making TU’s? I think they care.

> 343i did a great job with the games even though with a few flaws…and pfft…they dont care? If they didnt care would they not be making TU’s? I think they care.

Yea right. They lied to us about features that they were putting in the game that never showed up.

Go cry me a river, kid.

It will improve over time.

I think 343 is neutral, they don’t really care, but at the same time they want approval. It’s possible that they even resent our complaints.

On a not entirely separate note, I think -Yoink!- just cares about money, not us.

> I think 343 is neutral, <mark>they don’t really care, but at the same time they want approval. It’s possible that they even resent our complaints.</mark>
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> <mark>On a not entirely separate note, I think -Yoink!- just cares about money, not us.</mark>

  1. They DO care, but all they see on these forums is “blah blah 343 sucks, blah blah i WANT this, i WANT that, CHANGE that, CHANGE this…” the list goes on. Its so rampant that they are resorted to using neogaf instead of their own forums. Would you want to see such rampant hate over everything on something you made? No constructive criticism just pure hate? I sure as hell wouldn’t.

  2. Thats how the world runs, if they didn’t make money, none of this wouldn’t exist, money needs to come from somewhere.

> Take out (or allow the option to toggle) flinch and instant respawn.
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> Add more custom game options such as toggling sprint, flag dropping, the use of Specialization mods in pre set loadouts etc.
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> Balance out the loadouts (specially the DMR, Carbine, and Boltshot).
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> Ranked.
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> More smaller maps.
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> Spectator mode.
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> There, Halo 4 MP fixed.

Less use of random ordinance

More use of respawning initial ordinance

^Add those, and I agree entirely.

> > I think 343 is neutral, <mark>they don’t really care, but at the same time they want approval. It’s possible that they even resent our complaints.</mark>
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> > <mark>On a not entirely separate note, I think -Yoink!- just cares about money, not us.</mark>
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> 1. They DO care, but all they see on these forums is “blah blah 343 sucks, blah blah i WANT this, i WANT that, CHANGE that, CHANGE this…” the list goes on. Its so rampant that they are resorted to using <mark>neogaf</mark> instead of their own forums. Would you want to see such rampant hate over everything on something you made? No constructive criticism just pure hate? I sure as hell wouldn’t.
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> 2. Thats how the world runs, if they didn’t make money, none of this wouldn’t exist, money needs to come from somewhere.

They used neogaf way before Halo 4 was even close to being out. So that’s not a very good point at all.

Honestly there really isn’t much that needs fixed so I don’t know why you guys cry so hard.

> Honestly there really isn’t much that needs fixed so I don’t know why you guys cry so hard.

This post is a perfect example of why Halo is dying.

> 1. They DO care, but all they see on these forums is “blah blah 343 sucks, blah blah i WANT this, i WANT that, CHANGE that, CHANGE this…” the list goes on. Its so rampant that they are resorted to using neogaf instead of their own forums. Would you want to see such rampant hate over everything on something you made? No constructive criticism just pure hate? I sure as hell wouldn’t.
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> 2. Thats how the world runs, if they didn’t make money, none of this wouldn’t exist, money needs to come from somewhere.

  1. There are dozens of threads on these forums giving 343 ways of vastly improving this game. They resent these criticisms, and abandon their own site, leaving us even more upset.

  2. That’s a cop-out. You can make money while listening to your fans. In fact, they’d make more money that way. Even if you were right, and considering the sheer amount of money -Yoink!- already brings in, I think it’s OK for the fat cats to make a little less than they do now.

> > Honestly there really isn’t much that needs fixed so I don’t know why you guys cry so hard.
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> This post is a perfect example of why Halo is dying.

I agree with you on that.

Even if you view it from a business perspective, thinking that 343 is only in it for the money and not for the fans is down right ignorant.
For starters, any of the employees could have just got a job with Activision to work on Call of Duty. But they didn’t. They chose Microsoft and Halo instead.
Secondly, for the amount of money Microsoft/343 put into Halo 4’s development, marketing, Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn, and countless other things, Microsoft could have just as easily founded a studio for the sole purpose of copying CoD/attempting to “dethrone” CoD.
Thirdly, there is still revenue to be gained long after launch. There is still royalties. Direct revenue of sales of the game, consoles, etc… don’t suddenly stop and turn into non-profitable “used” sales after launch.
Fourthly, if 343 didn’t try to keep a good relationship with the fans/consumers, then projected profits of Halo 5 wouldn’t look so well. Even if they were just in it for the money, they would need to think of future sales of future titles and products. If they didn’t, projected profits wouldn’t meet up to standards.

They don’t care at all because they edit by moderator many of the posts that speak against Halo 4’s matchmaking. And if they do care, then why don’t they do something about the gameplay? I just can’t believe so many people are so happy with what 343i did with Halo 4.
The 343i staff might care, but I know Money$oft doesn’t. In this poll; I know that 343i is controlled by what -Yoink!- decides, so I vote that they don’t care because they are ordered not to care by -Yoink!-.

> > > I think 343 is neutral, <mark>they don’t really care, but at the same time they want approval. It’s possible that they even resent our complaints.</mark>
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> > > <mark>On a not entirely separate note, I think -Yoink!- just cares about money, not us.</mark>
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> > 1. They DO care, but all they see on these forums is “blah blah 343 sucks, blah blah i WANT this, i WANT that, CHANGE that, CHANGE this…” the list goes on. Its so rampant that they are resorted to using <mark>neogaf</mark> instead of their own forums. Would you want to see such rampant hate over everything on something you made? No constructive criticism just pure hate? I sure as hell wouldn’t.
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> > 2. Thats how the world runs, if they didn’t make money, none of this wouldn’t exist, money needs to come from somewhere.
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> They used neogaf way before Halo 4 was even close to being out. So that’s not a very good point at all.

Once upon a time, Halo waypoint was full of intelligent and civil people. People have migrated from the deteriorating land of Bungie Forums, and they praised the excellence of the new community.
343I nobles like Frankie and others use to post here frequently, answer questions whenever appropriate. It was a true halosend to have such noble people respond the ever growing community.
Months have passed, Halo 4 was looming on launch day, evil trolls and other haters have finally moved and infested the Waypoint lands, they have droven off the the nobles like frankie, and nowadays only a select few remain, like the goddess bsangel.

My point is that they used both, but like i said they have RESORTED to using neogaf instead of their own forums.

> They don’t care at all because they edit by moderator many of the posts that speak against Halo 4’s matchmaking. And if they do care, then why don’t they do something about the gameplay? I just can’t believe so many people are so happy with what 343i did with Halo 4.
> The 343i staff might care, but I know Money$oft doesn’t. In this poll; I know that 343i is controlled by what -Yoink!- decides, so I vote that they don’t care because they are ordered not to care by -Yoink!-.

I have seen that a lot. I also have seen a lot of the members that was on here a lot before Halo 4 was out have now been discharged. This should say something.