Why halo 5 is dying and not growing

I don’t understand how this has been ignored for so long. Countless thread and posts yet these small factors are being ignored. Now that there are more than 5 maps, 343 needs to take the focus off of war zone and bring it back to what halo started as.

  • More symetrical maps, even forged ones
  • Bring back oddball and king of the hill into arena
  • Add new playlist. The same playlists since launch have killed halo 5. Add ranked snipers, ranked doubles, ranked big team, etc.
    I guarantee these small changes would create the biggest increase in population than any of these monthly updates.

I agree. We need king of the hill.

  1. Halo isn’t dying.
  2. A massive amount of playlists would stretch out the population and slow down matchmaking.
  3. The greater majority of the maps are symmetrical, what are you even on about?

Edited because I want to be left alone.

You do realise every game sees a population decline after launch?

And according to 343, Halo 5 has had the best player retention since Halo 3.

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> 1. It’s not even on Xbox Lives top ten anymore. Usually 12 or 13.
> 2. We might as well only have one playlist with that logic. I agree too many is a bad thing, but we should have one or two more.
> 3. True.

12 to 13 is just outside the top 10 so I see that as a moot point.

Honestly short of Halo 5 being the greatest and most expansive shooter, nothing will bring back H3 population. Do you know why?

It’s not 343, it’s every other video game. If someone is playing Fallout 4 or COD BO3 or battlefront or BF4 or hundreds if not thousands of other games then they aren’t playing Halo.

In 07 there just wasn’t the same amount of “triple A must have” games. Be glad we have variety. Population =/= fun

I’d like to see your source that is up to date with current population data, firstly. Secondly, as long as I can find a game, I don’t give a damn about population.

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> > 2. A massive amount of playlists would stretch out the population and slow down matchmaking.
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> 1. It’s not even on Xbox Lives top ten anymore. Usually 12 or 13.
> 2. We might as well only have one playlist with that logic. I agree too many is a bad thing, but we should have one or two more.
> 3. True.

It was at 6 like a week ago lol, geez you people must be that obsessed over the pop if you have to look it up like you’re wanting it to fall lol. Learn what fluctuating means mmmk?

If this turns into a discussion about population, we’ll lock it and redirect to the Population Mega thread. Please stay on topic, and keep discussion constructive and respectful, thanks.

Take focus out of warzone? Are you mad! It’s the most popular playlist!
Without warzone I feel halo 5 wouldn’t have much to offer

no I don’t wan’t to see the population divided even more… We would probably end up with a bunch of playlists which are not playable

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> > 1. It’s not even on Xbox Lives top ten anymore. Usually 12 or 13.
> > 2. We might as well only have one playlist with that logic. I agree too many is a bad thing, but we should have one or two more.
> > 3. True.
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> It was at 6 like a week ago lol, geez you people must be that obsessed over the pop if you have to look it up like you’re wanting it to fall lol. Learn what fluctuating means mmmk?

Sorry I was just pointing out a number, and yes it does fluctuate, mmmk?

Come on, I just looked out of curiousity, is that so wrong!?

Halo 3 had a massive population and could afford to divide the community amongst many playlists. These days, FPS’s aren’t doing as well. It’s not just Halo–CoD, Battlefield, Battlefront…The genre isn’t what it used to be.
Doesn’t bother me one bit. If I can still get a game, then I’m all good. I don’t feel the need to boast about how I play the most popular games.

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> I agree. We need king of the hill.

We are more than likely not going to get KOTH. Strongholds is the new KOTH like game mode. They will undermine Strongholds if they put KOTH in. I know it is pretty dumb but it’s very likely not going to happen.

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Oddball is now possible thanks to their Ball/Bomb combo. They should put it in soon. It will probably be a while though because they have their own schedule for what is important and when to release it. I don’t agree with a lot of it but that’s how it is

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343 is putting a lot of work into this game and they have changed some things in ways that many fans won’t like, but when they make a change that is not a complete failure they try their best to keep it their way and not undermine their changes. Pretty much all companies (gaming and otherwise) do this.

These changes wouldnt affect anything…what would change is infection them adding back split screen and firefight which i heard is coming back?

It’s 5 months old. I don’t think any game is growing half a year later when you have high quality AAA games releasing every month. There will never be a game with as big of or as sustainable a population as Halo 3. There’s too much market saturation. I’m still happy playing it and have never had a problem finding a game in any gamemode, so I don’t see any problems. Who cares if it doesn’t have as many players as whatever the top ten is? As long as I can play the game, it doesn’t really matter.