Halo 4 will fail and it won’t be because of the campaign or “Spec Ops” but because of multiplayer once again. 343, not only did Bungie give you a recipe for success before they quit Halo, but they also prepared the recipe for disaster. Three times they released an amazing product but for some reason you guys are following up on their worst Halo game created, Halo Reach.
Halo Reach’s multiplayer lead to it becoming the worst matchmaking experience in the history of Halo (in respect to it’s time). Let’s not debate this fact and let the population be our evidence. Bungie delivered an absolute low in the Halo experience when Reach was release but somehow you disregard what just happened and somehow manage to announce more game breaking changes. The following are the biggest issues with Reach MM.
→ Broken Mechanics
not traditional Halo settings
Low speed, low jump
no bleedthrough
→ No Rank
Absolutely alienated a massive population, most of which quit Halo
Bungie further insults competitive players with Arena
→ Armor Abilites
Somehow this new mechanic became the highlight of matchmaking. Why so much emphasis was put into a broken mechanic I will never know. AAs should stick in campaign, Firefight and BTB.
→ Few Maps
Introducing some of the worst maps in the Halo franchise, it felt like most of them we’re designed for BTB and almost made this game feel like BF where you walk around for 10 minutes searching for a battle… and then get sniped.
Zealot, countdown (only unique symmetrical maps)
→ Bloom
added nothing to gameplay, but took away from skill by adding randomness
fail attempt, made a single burst weapon have more inaccuracy than an Assault Rifle.
Halo Reach failed for obvious reasons and yet you guys ignore those reasons, make some of them worst and add even more game breaking features.
→ join session in-progress
→ keeping armor abilities, and increasing the in-game amount to 2 (sprint + 2nd)
→ instant respawn, and your placing it into the best playlist as confirmation
→ wrecking the way weapons spawn, a classic and integral part of Halo
Sorry, but Halo 4 isn’t going to fail. Too many of us are looking forward to the next installment to the Halo franchise. I do, however, believe that it may not be as good as Halo 3. It will probably improve on Halo: Reach, though.
> > If you think Halo 4 will fail you are in for a rude awakening when it comes out.
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> That’s what you guys said before Reach came out.
And by Fail you mean what? because you remember Halo 2? that game everyone thinks was perfect i remember “Halo2sucks.com” i remember massive complaints about the BR and lets not forget about the Halo 3 complaints they were almost if not greater then the Reach’s complaints.
> → Broken Mechanics
> - not traditional Halo settings
> - Low speed, low jump
> - no bleedthrough
>
> → No Rank
> - Absolutely alienated a massive population, most of which quit Halo
> - Bungie further insults competitive players with Arena
>
> → Armor Abilites
> - Somehow this new mechanic became the highlight of matchmaking. Why so much emphasis was put into a broken mechanic I will never know. AAs should stick in campaign, Firefight and BTB.
>
> → Few Maps
> - Introducing some of the worst maps in the Halo franchise, it felt like most of them we’re designed for BTB and almost made this game feel like BF where you walk around for 10 minutes searching for a battle… and then get sniped.
> - Zealot, countdown (only unique symmetrical maps)
>
> → Bloom
> - added nothing to gameplay, but took away from skill by adding randomness
> - fail attempt, made a single burst weapon have more inaccuracy than an Assault Rifle.
I have not read GameInformer so correct me if I’m wrong, but some of those points would fill the forum with more complaints.
Anyhow.
Broken Mechanics:
Nothing has been said about the game mechanics except Recoil, and that’s it. What I know.
If anything we can probably see some hypothetical work in Halo 4 with Reach’s Title Update, which was made by 343i, where for example bleedthrough was introduced.
No Rank:
Few things have been said about ranking. Nothing that we can draw any conclusions of that I know of.
AA’s:
These were discussed I’ve read somewhere, some returning ones such as Camo, Jetpack and Hologram and sprint being for everyone.
Maps:
Have been said to be made with the competative crowd in mind. This is a step away from Reach, and then I’m sure that you won’t walk around for half the match with nothing to do.
Bloom:
Been replaced by recoil, one that is managable.
Step away from Reach.
So if anything, most of the stuff we’ve seen have been steps away from Reach. Except AA’s.
I love how people keep defending 343 , and give excuses like wait till you see gameplay .
We are not stupid , its obvious 343 are dumbing down halo to cater to the crowd that plays call of duty.
Bungie tried this with reach and it backfired badly , we dont want the same to repeat
> I love how people keep defending 343 , and give excuses like wait till you see gameplay .
> We are not stupid , its obvious 343 are dumbing down halo to cater to the crowd that plays call of duty.
>
> Bungie tried this with reach and it backfired badly , we dont want the same to repeat
To make matters worse they argue that Halo is dead because of the results of Reach and not because of Reach itself. Does the population forget that Halo 3 battled through two Modern Warfares among all the other great games released in its 3 year campaign until reach was released while holding strong at approximately 200k people on.
Exactly , Halo lost the top lead because instead of the next big Halo we got odst and reach for the next 4 years , while cod kept giving their fans what they wanted.
I really hope 343 listens. We need more posters like you to tell the truth. I don’t want another Reach. It was the worst halo ever. It disappointed in both campaign and multiplayer. 343 is taking a step in the wrong direction.
> Exactly , Halo lost the top lead because instead of the next big Halo we got odst and reach for the next 4 years , while cod kept giving their fans what they wanted.
Yet, because of those games people claim that Halo is dying.
They are not putting everything in Reach they are only putting the good stuff. EXCEPT SPRINT. I hope your friends (if you have any) Will ask you Hey you want to play Halo 4 and then you will say no! I don’t have it.
SHUT UP, im sick of every one complaining about 343 they know what there doing. so many of you are just so stuck on Halo vs CoD. why not take some of the things that make cod fun and put them in halo? Thats what games do. they take the things from other games and make them better like How CoD took theater and file shares from halo. And other FPS games from Halos hay day all show a resemblance of halo game play. every one keeps complaining about how we want it to be like Halo 3. truth is every one is bored of it now after 10 years, barley any one plays the classic halo playlist on reach and the Halo 3 servers are going to be shut down because no one plays it any more. Now you say that 343 is killing halo but are you sure its not us? holding back halos potential to discover something grate and better all because you want it to stay the same and keep something that no one likes any more but maybe the few thousand people that post on the forms. 343 looks at this stuff and the percent of people who want something new and exciting to give halo a hole new adventure rules out those who want to lock it away and never let it see the day light. besides your basing all your opinions on stupid multiplayer. i know i could care less about that all i want is a new campaign one of the reasons people even buy the game.
> Halo 4 is going to be great so stop thinking it is going to be bad.
Ever since 2007 when I beat Halo 3 on Legendary I kept: “Preaching” there will be at least a Halo 4. Then when it became official. I just looked at all those saying I’m dreaming and it’ll never happen. They say now that’s ruined. I say if by “Ruined” you mean <mark>Made Even More Awesome!!! Then yes it has been!</mark>
> You do realize that Reach did not fail right?
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> You just said Call of Duty kept giving their fans what they wanted, that is what makes Call of Duty worse if anything.
If by worse you mean better, then yes.
For some reason you people argue Halo will become CoD if we refuse to change Halo into something that it is not, but somehow by changing all of it’s mechanics to those of CoD we don’t.