Why Halo 4 Sucks...

I am what you can call a Halo freak. I love the game, and love the story. Yet I have to say that 343 has absolutely just ruined the franchise.

This is the second time I have came here with complaints about Halo 4, and I’m sure I’m not the only one. Now what I am gonna do now is tell you reasons Halo 4 sucks.

Multiplayer. The first of many things is that there are custom load outs. Sure its a neat idea, but in all seriousness it ruined the game. Now you have players who just put the boltshot on as a secondary. Well there you have it, you can spawn with a shotgun, Seriously what a joke. Now Reach had load outs but they were simple and preset, and if i recall only if you were playing Infection could you spawn with a shotgun. Another thing that sucks about the multiplayer is the maps, the maps are simple garbage. Now the map pack was okay and haven is okay, but all the rest are garbage. The next thing is the kill cams… they are completely off and just a stupid idea, tied along to the stupid COD like fast game play, I feel like I have bought Halo themed Call of Duty… Also the Multiplayer menu is a complete joke, Why wouldn’t they just keep it the way it was in Reach… But know lets make a stupid menu… Like seriously wtf. Also Flood sucks… its dumb, the Flood are OP like crazy and even know they can basically fly around the map, they are even harder to kill… which is dumb cause normally Flood are week. The fact that you cant drop the Flag is stupid, Ordnance is dumb cause it just makes the team doing good do even better and the other team left hopeless. And the fact that every week the game types change every week is just unnecessary and annoying. And I’m sure there is much more that I have not gone over but its time to go to Campaign.

Campaign, The only complaints I have for Campaign is that it was a little short, and that it did not elaborate on the whole fighting the Covenant thing. This is Halo not Harry Potter, you should not have to read books to understand the story…

Forge. The Forge lacks a lot, the generating lighting effect should just happen when a new item is placed, not every time you change from the Oracle, 80% of the items are just recycled from Reach and lastly the maps are to small to do anything unique with.

Custom Games. As a big Custom Games lover I’m disgusted by Halo 4’s Custom Games attempt, the settings are not user friendly at all. The worst thing about Custom Games is the fact there is no Infection… Most if not all fun community made games run off Infection. So thank you 343 for ruining Custom Games for the Community that plays and makes enjoyable games. So like Mulitplayer, Custom Games is a joke.

Lastly, I’m gonna say this right now, do not reply to this thread if you disagree with what I have wrote. If you agree with me feel free to share why you hate
Halo 4 because I would love to know why.

Thanks for reading this!
and special thanks to 343 for ruining the franchise that we all loved.

Hmmm…

This is my first post so im a newcomer.

I’m going to just state my opinion on Halo 4 here if the OP doesn’t mind :slight_smile:

I am torn on where to stand with Halo 4. I mean, to me, they could make Halo as bad as possible and I would still get it, because I love Halo. I don’t think I will ever have the courage to say that 343 ruined Halo.

However, there are some things I have some problems with… First of all, the Campaign, now I have only played the first two levels so I don’t have much to say about level design. Feels like Halo 3 a bit though. About the Story… It didn’t have the feel of the other Halo games and I think going past where the story was meant to go (Halo 3 ending) was risky and utterly dumb, but for attempting it, I think they did a good job… My one complaint about campaign is I hate the way Cortana looks (she looked way better in H3 IMO) and I don’t really like how MC talks more during the first levels than he did in all of the games combined. That and what happened to Arbiter? GIVE US A HALO: SANGHEILLI OR SOMETHING!

Now onto my thoughts of the multiplayer. First of all, Killcams don’t belong in Halo. They hardly work anyways and make everyone look like aim bots. The lag sometimes makes everyone skip around the map like H1 and the matchmaking is really retarted sometimes. They can add all these COD like things into the game if they want, but, GIVE US A CLASSIC PLAYLIST. NO CLASSIC PLAYLISTS IN HALO??? WHAT!!! SERIOUSLY???

Not to mention, the only version of FFA slayer is Regicide which is just plain dumb

Zombies/flood doesn’t feel like Zombies used to. DMR is way too OP. Loadouts, while I do kind of like this, it doesn’t really belong in Halo…

Firefight… Why did they remove it? Why not just do both Firefight AND Spartan ops? more is better right? right?

And as for the menus… Can I have my halo reach menus back? these ones are kind of confusing.

I don’t trust 343 with the franchise YET, but I think they did a good job with Halo 4, for the most part. This is my opinion

Oh and the graphics rule.

> I am what you can call a Halo freak. I love the game, and love the story. Yet I have to say that 343 has absolutely just ruined the franchise.
>
> This is the second time I have came here with complaints about Halo 4, and I’m sure I’m not the only one. Now what I am gonna do now is tell you reasons Halo 4 sucks.
>
> Multiplayer. The first of many things is that there are custom load outs. Sure its a neat idea, but in all seriousness it ruined the game. Now you have players who just put the boltshot on as a secondary. Well there you have it, you can spawn with a shotgun, Seriously what a joke. Now Reach had load outs but they were simple and preset, and if i recall only if you were playing Infection could you spawn with a shotgun. Another thing that sucks about the multiplayer is the maps, the maps are simple garbage. Now the map pack was okay and haven is okay, but all the rest are garbage. The next thing is the kill cams… they are completely off and just a stupid idea, tied along to the stupid COD like fast game play, I feel like I have bought Halo themed Call of Duty… Also the Multiplayer menu is a complete joke, Why wouldn’t they just keep it the way it was in Reach… But know lets make a stupid menu… Like seriously wtf. Also Flood sucks… its dumb, the Flood are OP like crazy and even know they can basically fly around the map, they are even harder to kill… which is dumb cause normally Flood are week. The fact that you cant drop the Flag is stupid, Ordnance is dumb cause it just makes the team doing good do even better and the other team left hopeless. And the fact that every week the game types change every week is just unnecessary and annoying. And I’m sure there is much more that I have not gone over but its time to go to Campaign.
>
> Campaign, The only complaints I have for Campaign is that it was a little short, and that it did not elaborate on the whole fighting the Covenant thing. This is Halo not Harry Potter, you should not have to read books to understand the story…
>
> Forge. The Forge lacks a lot, the generating lighting effect should just happen when a new item is placed, not every time you change from the Oracle, 80% of the items are just recycled from Reach and lastly the maps are to small to do anything unique with.
>
> Custom Games. As a big Custom Games lover I’m disgusted by Halo 4’s Custom Games attempt, the settings are not user friendly at all. The worst thing about Custom Games is the fact there is no Infection… Most if not all fun community made games run off Infection. So thank you 343 for ruining Custom Games for the Community that plays and makes enjoyable games. So like Mulitplayer, Custom Games is a joke.
>
> Lastly, I’m gonna say this right now, do not reply to this thread if you disagree with what I have wrote. If you agree with me feel free to share why you hate
> Halo 4 because I would love to know why.
>
> Thanks for reading this!
> and special thanks to 343 for ruining the franchise that we all loved.

I agree with most of these issues.

Giving everyone sprint is a large reason the new levels are garbage. By increasing movement speed the new levels were designed larger. The amount of empty space on most levels is pretty ridiculous.

Look at complex. That level is HUGE. Too big, in my opinion for a legitimate 4v4 match.

Large maps is what has made the DMR the choice of the pros because it is practically a mini-sniper. In a wide open map, the ability to reach out nearly as far as you can see makes the DMR a no-brainer.

Instant spawns have also sped up gameplay. Nearly to the point where you can have three to four back to back battles with the same guy in a manner of twenty to thirty seconds.

Without the ability to tactically set up on the enemy after you wipe them out, I feel the new strategy in Halo 4 is just a bum rush.

I think this is why MLG has left Halo 4, the tactical game-within-a-game in Halo is now absent. Now the fights are quicker, faster, and are totally self contained.

In previous Halo titles the key to winning was all about map and power weapon control. With the removal of weapon spawns the control of specific map points at crucial times is now gone. Replaced with a chaotic morass of bullets and grenades.

The randomness of ordinance drops is also a bummer. Getting rockets/beam rifle vs plasma grenades/speed boost is a huge difference of potential outcomes, especially early in the game.

I wouldn’t mind seeing a “Progressive Ordinance”, say your first ordinance drop is speed/plasma grenades, then as you continue to earn more points a different color ordinance meter fills 2x as fast for a higher tier of weapons/armor buff.
Just a thought.

I know many other players will say, “L2P” and “Adapt”. That is fine with me. But I will still play the game while imagining a better halo 4.

And that is just depressing.

I agree with pretty much everything you said OP. War Games is pretty bad.

Also,

It feels like H4 is a pale copy of previous games. H4 lacks some simple things that make you wonder, “Why did they take that out?”

Why can’t I see if the guy whose stats i’m looking at is in a party?
It was easily shown in previous Halo games.

Whats with file share not working either?

These short-cuts just make the game feel unpolished.

Not cool.

I think the load outs and game play are much better and more balanced than REACH.

However, the thing I do hate and frustrates me 90% of the time is Connection Quality.

I seriously feel like i am playing Halo 2 again. Nearly all games you play with Americans, and when you live in Australia you get a really laggy game.

REACH had an option for “Prefer Good Connection”, with this I would only play with other Australians and New Zealanders. Laggy games was between 5 & 10%.

A massive improvement. Most of the guys I play with have gone back to REACH because they couldn’t take the lag.

I soon might be joining them. The option for “Prefer Good Connection” needs to return in the TU.

The one thing that annoys me the most in a game, if it is laggy.

343 please fix this issue.

H4 is terrible.

Sound effects = garbage
Load outs = stupidly limited
AAs = horrible in Reach, even worse in H4
Perma-sprint = seriously? Barf…
Oh, you can play 3 different maps in Slayer. Want more maps? Pay 343. What a joke.
Boltshot… Uh…
50 different one shot kill weapons on the map at the same time. With camo. And people seeing through walls. And jet pack. And perma-sprint. Oh, you can have a “regen” to help with that mess. Have fun!

> H4 is terrible.
>
> Sound effects = garbage
> Load outs = stupidly limited
> AAs = horrible in Reach, even worse in H4
> Perma-sprint = seriously? Barf…
> Oh, you can play 3 different maps in Slayer. Want more maps? Pay 343. What a joke.
> Boltshot… Uh…
> 50 different one shot kill weapons on the map at the same time. With camo. And people seeing through walls. And jet pack. And perma-sprint. Oh, you can have a “regen” to help with that mess. Have fun!

Dont worry! They got the graphics right!

/sarcasm

H4 is fun to me, but I’m sure another nostalgic -Yoink- will tend to disagree.

The campaign was cool, Spartan Ops is a great break from killing people online and War Games is chaotic/fun.

It just needs a few tweaks to get it where it needs to be which 343i will be doing in January. I’m satisfied. :slight_smile:

Halo 4 needs to get rid of:
loadouts
AA’s
Ordinance
Sprint

Just that would make this game much better. strip it down a lot and return it to the halo a lot of us wanted (1-3)

Nice to see all your opinions, another thing I forgot to cover that I saw someone talked about was “sprint” since everyone has sprint when you engage a fight it is easy for your opponent to just coward out and run and hide behind the nearest wall or crate that all the maps are loaded with. They are all so cram-packed with junk you can hardly even strafe… lol I don’t know who It was that said the liked Halo 4, all I can remember is that their spartan model was pink. Anyway to the point I completely respect you feelings for Halo 4 haha as odd as that sounds :stuck_out_tongue:
Again all this is in opinion but unfortunately I think that Halo 4 has made at least 40% of the Halo Community re-think what they thought of “Halo” and I also think that 343 is not setting a good example of where they will be taking the franchise.

Oh since I got all you guys attention, would any of you guys, and girls if your female, be interested in joining a Halo 4 military clan? We are still some what small because we are pretty new. If you are interested just message me or my clans leader SII JAI 006. lol Recruiting is tough but please don’t show disrespect if your not interested. thanks :slight_smile:

any questions about the clan feel free to ask :smiley: