Why don't the BR's and AR's bolts "move" anymore?

While I understand most of what was in the Beta was still in concept and did not mean that it would be in the final game, I’d like to know why the AR’s, BR’s and DMR’s bolts don’t move back and forth, as they did in the Beta.

Beta footage of the BR ( watch the bolt)

Note: This is not a glitch, it is just something that I’ve noticed when watching Beta footage of Halo 5. It turns out that the BR, AR and DMR use nonreciprocating bolts.

I think its a glitch that 343 havent fixed yet.

My best guess is that it was removed to increase the framerate, but I’m no expert on animations.

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> My best guess is that it was removed to increase the framerate, but I’m no expert on animations.

That’s a shame, I thought that it made the weapons look really cool.

Did the Beta run at 60fps or 30?

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I’m pretty sure it ran at 60, but it’s been such a long time that I can’t remember. Maybe someone else can answer that for you.

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Its why they got rid of split-screen, I wouldn’t honestly be surprised.
That or maybe UNSC weapons are so advanced their bolts don’t need to move to fire? But you still need to pull them to rechamber a new magazine…

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It ran at 60, but that’s kind of a moot point.

I never noticed the bolts don’t move anymore lol I’m sad now

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> Did the Beta run at 60fps or 30?

Ran at 60 but there were problems with it dropping noticeably. That’s why the graphics and UI look dumbed down compared to the beta.

I’d say they were thinking you wouldn’t notice, let alone bring it up one year later.

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It ran at 60FPS, yes, but the resolution was locked to 720p. In the final version of the game, it’s supposed to be at 1080p, but as we all know, it does vary.

It’s a shame, really. So much was sacrificed in the name of 60FPS, especially visuals and core features. When a new console generation came out, I didn’t think we’d be limited by its power within 2 years…

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> That or maybe UNSC weapons are so advanced their bolts don’t need to move to fire? But you still need to pull them to rechamber a new magazine…

That could be the case.

But, because the UNSC still uses projectile weapons, surely their weapons would still need a bolt for cocking and ejecting spent cartridges?

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Me neither! I just went into custom games to verify this and wadda-ya-know. As a gun nut I’m sorely disappointed.

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> That could be the case.
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> But, because the UNSC still uses projectile weapons, surely their weapons would still need a bolt for cocking and ejecting spent cartridges?

There’s no canonical explanation for this. The animations are disabled, plain and simple. Unless the bolt handle somehow detaches itself from the rest of the bolt (by why would it do that?). Besides, the bolts move in previous games.

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> I never noticed the bolts don’t move anymore lol I’m sad now

If you watch old videos of the Beta, it looks so cool! :relaxed:

Another wasted opportunity…oh well.

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> Me neither! I just went into custom games to verify this and wadda-ya-know. As a gun nut I’m sorely disappointed.

I thought the bolt still moved in the full game, I only noticed that it doesn’t after recently watching some footage of the Beta.

It’d be a nice thing to have again.:neutral_face:

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> > > > > > My best guess is that it was removed to increase the framerate, but I’m no expert on animations.
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> > > > > That’s a shame, I thought that it made the weapons look really cool.
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> I thought the bolt still moved in the full game, I only noticed that it doesn’t after recently watching some footage of the Beta.
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> It’d be a nice thing to have again.:neutral_face:

343 pls

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I think the reason why it is quite hard to notice is: when you fire the weapon, due to the recoil animation, most of the stock moves off-screen.

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> > > Me neither! I just went into custom games to verify this and wadda-ya-know. As a gun nut I’m sorely disappointed.
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> > I thought the bolt still moved in the full game, I only noticed that it doesn’t after recently watching some footage of the Beta.
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> > It’d be a nice thing to have again.:neutral_face:
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> 343 pls

If its a bug or glitch, they may patch it in the next update.

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> > > > > > That’s a shame, I thought that it made the weapons look really cool.
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> > > > I never noticed the bolts don’t move anymore lol I’m sad now
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> > > Me neither! I just went into custom games to verify this and wadda-ya-know. As a gun nut I’m sorely disappointed.
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> > I thought the bolt still moved in the full game, I only noticed that it doesn’t after recently watching some footage of the Beta.
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> > It’d be a nice thing to have again.:neutral_face:
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> 343 pls

If 343 removed the AR’s, BR’s and the DMR’s bolt animation so that the game would be smoother, why have they kept the bolt animation for the Sniper Rifle?