Why doesn't CSR work???

I am being matched up STILL with CSR 1’s when I am level 41 in infinity slayer.
The worst part is 41 hasn’t even been a challenge, whereas in Halo 3 every match was challenging, my hands used to shake after a close match because they were truly tense, and you just don’t get that in Halo 4. It seems like 343 keep trying to please everyone by doing everything in the middle ground and are in the end, pleasing no one.
Why not use CSR to match with players +/- 10 of your CSR?
I was hoping the introduction of CSR would bring challenging, close games. Nothing has changed.

Shouldn’t this technically be in the matchmaking forum area?

Also how do you know it is CSR 1’s you are being matched up with, is it via waypoint or are you assuming?

I’ve been looking at Game History on waypoint and I am definitely being matched up with anyone from CSR 1-50

Well that’s kind of obvious, but unless they are on your friends list you won’t know their CSR so it’ll either display as their CSR at that time or from a match prior. As CSR is always delayed by a game.

https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/PremiumTrout/wargames/match-5e417de163fc9e63

https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/PremiumTrout/wargames/match-c8656ced206fa58a

https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/PremiumTrout/wargames/match-6a3eeb806ebd59ae

My last 3 games ALL had multiple people well below my CSR.

It doesn’t work.

In team ones it isn’t about how you do individually. It’s about the score of the team alongside K/D

So your team seems to have high kills, low deaths and wins. So that’s why.

If you want to be matched up based on skill or so. Do the free for all playlists. Team ones rank up / down the entire teams.

The reason why it looks like the system isn’t working is because it just doesn’t work with the population at hand.

The game barely cracks 35,000 and yesterday was down to 28,000 peak. This in turn translates to barely 1,000 players per playlist apart from two or three popular ones which have really the majority.

Every other playlist other then the top 3, you WILL be matched up with randoms. Although the system may at first search for players ± 10. It will quickly expand because no one is playing.

As for the first 3 playlists, again the population isn’t too big and although you may have a better chance of getting closer ranked players, the rankings in this game pretty much are meaningless.

As you clearly have shown you have being getting random players all the way to 40+. There is no way the system can match a bunch of 40+'s because in all there aren’t that many that can play this game without quitting. Honesty even if it did, most of them have been destroying low levels and guests to get their ranks.

So this in turn means the ranking as they are currently and will continue to be a mere number with no meaning at all. It simply represents that you have played for a while and your skill could range from terribad to mlg pro.

TLDR. This ranking system will never rank you with players in close proximity due to the low population. Should it ever rank you with players near your CSR, this means nothing as everyone got their by destroying noobs. CSR means nothing.

Have a nice day.

Don’t quote me on this but didn’t 343 say you don’t get matched according to your CSR but true skill instead (which got reseted when CSR launched to level the playing field) and that’s why everybody’s been having nothing but sh*tty matches for the past few weeks.

thats what i want back i want my hands to be shaking in every game

> Don’t quote me on this but didn’t 343 say you don’t get matched according to your CSR but true skill instead (which got reseted when CSR launched to level the playing field) and that’s why everybody’s been having nothing but sh*tty matches for the past few weeks.

CSR is the same thing as true skill.

> > Don’t quote me on this but didn’t 343 say you don’t get matched according to your CSR but true skill instead (which got reseted when CSR launched to level the playing field) and that’s why everybody’s been having nothing but sh*tty matches for the past few weeks.
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> CSR is the same thing as true skill.

Except is TrueSkill playlist specific? Otherwise a player who only plays rumble pit could get CSR40. Then when he tried SWAT he’d be CSR1 but with a TrueSkill equivalent to CSR40. (not sure whether thats the case)

I have no idea which its matching by anymore. Both seem likely, i.e. matched correctly by TrueSkill or matched incorrectly by CSR due to low pop.

Well whatever the case, the result is terrible games.

Lol I would really like games that make my hands shake too, but there’s not enough people for it. Do you know how long it would take to be matched up with a group of 40’s in something like Objective when there’s 30 people to start? Never going to happen, Halo 3 is over. Sorry about that.

Don’t quote me on this, but I believe that MM is based on Trueskill from the day the game came out as opposed to the more recent CSR. You could be a level 40 and play a level 10 because you have the same overall Trueskill.

CSR = your skill since the release of CSR

Trueskill = your skill since the games release

This what I understand of the system anyway. Also the ridiculously low population of the game doesn’t help.

> Don’t quote me on this, but I believe that MM is based on Trueskill from the day the game came out as opposed to the more recent CSR. You could be a level 40 and play a level 10 because you have the same overall Trueskill.
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> CSR = your skill since the release of CSR
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> Trueskill = your skill since the games release
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> This what I understand of the system anyway. Also the ridiculously low population of the game doesn’t help.

Nah, they actually reset trueskill when CSR released because they wanted everyone to have the ‘thrill’ of your ‘progression’ up the ranks.

CSR is based on your TrueSkill. You are matched by TrueSkill, not by CSR. CSR is just a projection of your TrueSkill that tends on the low side.

The same reason why Halo 4 is messed up…343 made it.

Lol I just started playing infinity slayer (I’m a 46 in BTB) and am a level 2, yet am being matched against 30s and 40s.

I’m pretty sure that the individual-based playlists still match players at random. You just happen to also have a rank now.

CSR just seems like bologna. I go positive 5 and positive 15 in Big Team with my team winning both games and I go down a level? Same with SWAT? As bad as Reach’s system was, at least they took time and matched you with similar players.

i dont know why i dont rank up y won some matches and i was de 1° on the chart and i didnt ranked up
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sry for the bad english
i dont like how this new csr works