343, why don’t you listen to the halo community as a whole ?
Now as a whole means that u take some interest in to the people that play “your” game- all of the sub communities eg clan community being UNSC, insurrection and covenant . You have successfully managed to further destroy what Halo means to most people as you don’t cater for anyone other than prefesional players…so what happnes to the game after they stop playing it ? What about the game population after the competitive people leave ?
call of duty has 1.6 million dislikes and is going to fail if it carries on the way they don’t listen to their community so grow some brain cells and listen to the halo community before it falls too!
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> 343, why don’t you listen to the halo community as a whole ?
> Now as a whole means that u take some interest in to the people that play “your” game- all of the sub communities eg clan community being UNSC, insurrection and covenant . You have successfully managed to further destroy what Halo means to most people as you don’t cater for anyone other than prefesional players…so what happnes to the game after they stop playing it ? What about the game population after the competitive people leave ?
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> call of duty has 1.6 million dislikes and is going to fail if it carries on the way they don’t listen to their community so grow some brain cells and listen to the halo community before it falls too!
Man this is just nonsense.
while I don’t agree with every decision that 343i has made with regards to H5, to suggest that they are simply ignoring the community just isn’t true.
First of all, every time a new Halo game is released, there is a portion of the community who dislikes some of the changes made. If you’ve been around for a while, you’ll know that there was a massive backlash from the CE community when H2 was released. H3 wasn’t so bad, but it happened again when Reach launched. Then we all know what happened with H4.
This simple truth is, you have to push a games formula forward and take risks or you stagnate. Also, there are various factions within the community who want different, sometimes conflicting things.Yes there are people who are unhappy with H5, but there are many who feel it has some of the best MP in the series.
Also, of the changes and additions made to this game since launch have been a direct result of feedback from the community. That’s how we got Warzone FF. That’s how we got this awesome Forge. That’s why we are getting new weapon layouts, etc.
so while they may not be doing specifically what you want them too, they are listening.
It’s funny to keep hearing these complaints about 343i only catering to pro’s, then you go to pro forums, and see them complaining about 343 only catering to casuals. Haha people need to stop and realize that it’s a tough balancing act.
They listen, no doubt, but they don’t take enough action to fulfill the wants of a large player base. I wouldn’t say they aren’t listening(I feel like I’m talking about a government agency: “they are everywhere; watching, listening.”), because that simply isn’t true. They just don’t show very well that they care that much.
They didn’t listen and now most of the original community is gone hense the population getting smaller. The track Halo has been set on will only have lower game sales as they have been.
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> They listen, no doubt, but they don’t take enough action to fulfill the wants of a large player base. I wouldn’t say they aren’t listening(I feel like I’m talking about a government agency: “they are everywhere; watching, listening.”), because that simply isn’t true. They just don’t show very well that they care that much.
Your making the mistake in assuming that the vocal minority represent the wants and best interests of the playerbase at large.
Oh , here we go again. Do you know that making Falcon takes a lot of time , right? You can’t put a new model without working on it , they have to do new animations , balance it and all the game along. They will give you a new game mode (requested) but you still act as spoiled childs that want everything for FREE. I saw some cool things yesterday and the Plasma Rifle looks awesome , let’s enjoy what we have for now…the game is pretty good except about the terrible choice of region lock.
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> Oh , here we go again. Do you know that making Falcon takes a lot of time , right? You can’t put a new model without working on it , they have to do new animations , balance it and all the game along. They will give you a new game mode (requested) but you still act as spoiled childs that want everything for FREE. I saw some cool things yesterday and the Plasma Rifle looks awesome , let’s enjoy what we have for now…the game is pretty good except about the terrible choice of region lock.
Ignoring the community’s questions and concerns about the falcon and throwing away of gametypes though ? That’s just sleazy. The community has to resort to childish tactics like spamming to at least TRY to get a message across. 343 has turned its own community into a bunch of babies that mindlessly spam and the little constructive criticism that I and a few others try to spread is put aside all and laughed at
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> They have “selective hearing”. Basically they will only acknowledge what they want.
For everything you “feel” the game needs there are thousands of other people who “feel” something else is needed. Is that selective hearing, or just being overwhelmed with thousands of various requests (good, bad, stupid)?
They are listening and giving the casuals stuff to enjoy.
-Grifball
-Firefight
-Infection
-Textures in Forge
-Classic Weapons
-etc. etc.
Would have thought this would be blatantly obvious but… Shrugs
But you have to understand that they can’t listen to everyone. They can only work on so much at a time so they have to be selective and choose whats needed most, sometimes that takes time which is why you see what appears to be the not so needed stuff first.
Probably because the vast majority of this “community” is comprised of polarizing opinions that get off on trashing each other, rather than reading, liking, and posting constructive material.
I’m sure they believe that sifting through all of the garbage on this forum for a couple nuggets that usually just say the obvious “bring back X” is hardly worth it.
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> Long prolonged Sigh
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> They are listening and giving the casuals stuff to enjoy.
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> -Grifball
> -Firefight
> -Infection
> -Textures in Forge
> -Classic Weapons
> -etc. etc.
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> Would have thought this would be blatantly obvious but… Shrugs
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> But you have to understand that they can’t listen to everyone. They can only work on so much at a time so they have to be selective and choose whats needed most, sometimes that takes time which is why you see what appears to be the not so needed stuff first.
One of the worst things you can do as a game dev is only lison to the community. For a game that is as long in the tooth as halo, there are so many differnt tastes and fans of differnt gametypes and how halo feels for them. If 343i lison to everyone this game would lose any sence of what it wants to be and would just become a complete mess.
All it takes is one guy on a forum to say, " yeh guys i think we should remove shields because hell you die fast enough anywy, whos with me?" give no reason as to why ect and with the law of numbers your going to get a bunch of people who just come in and thumbs up the idea based on no testing or anything at all.
Then what are 343i ment to do?
There is a reason they pick and choose what they lison to , and im sure they do lison but they have to decide what they think would be best for the game. They will make some poeple happy and others not happy. Its why everyone likes differnt halos for differnt reasons and thats ok.
Tbh if you look at the state of halo 5 on launch and look at where it stands today, from the forge improvements, the new maps weapons ect ect, i think 343i have only hade the game better since launch, and its a much larger and complete game over all after 6 months than there first try of halo 4. If your still not happy id suggest you just give up now because i dont see 343i making you happy down the road.
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> 343, why don’t you listen to the halo community as a whole ?
> Now as a whole means that u take some interest in to the people that play “your” game- all of the sub communities eg clan community being UNSC, insurrection and covenant . You have successfully managed to further destroy what Halo means to most people as you don’t cater for anyone other than prefesional players…so what happnes to the game after they stop playing it ? What about the game population after the competitive people leave ?
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> call of duty has 1.6 million dislikes and is going to fail if it carries on the way they don’t listen to their community so grow some brain cells and listen to the halo community before it falls too!
They do, they always do. If you would have tuned into the live stream last night they were talking to the community, answering questions, and playing with us to, And cod doesn’t have anything to do with this okay. They are a very busy company they can’t answer every question or put everything that you ask for in their game, that’s not how it works. if you were a game dev or someone who has worked with this stuff in the past you would undertstand.
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> > Oh , here we go again. Do you know that making Falcon takes a lot of time , right? You can’t put a new model without working on it , they have to do new animations , balance it and all the game along. They will give you a new game mode (requested) but you still act as spoiled childs that want everything for FREE. I saw some cool things yesterday and the Plasma Rifle looks awesome , let’s enjoy what we have for now…the game is pretty good except about the terrible choice of region lock.
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> Ignoring the community’s questions and concerns about the falcon and throwing away of gametypes though ? That’s just sleazy. The community has to resort to childish tactics like spamming to at least TRY to get a message across. 343 has turned its own community into a bunch of babies that mindlessly spam and the little constructive criticism that I and a few others try to spread is put aside all and laughed at
People didn’t start this frenzy over a falcon until MOR was announced. Do you really think there has been enough time to design a new vehicle, adjust its physics, create new animations, and balance it for H5s mechanics?
Are the you crazy?
The lack of gametypes is regrettable, but they’ve already stated that many that were planned for launch didn’t mane due to the time it took to incorporate the new engine. This isn’t an example of not listening.
i generally think 343 is terrible at relaying information. But listening has been a strength.
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> > 2533274890187140;1:
> > 343, why don’t you listen to the halo community as a whole ?
> > Now as a whole means that u take some interest in to the people that play “your” game- all of the sub communities eg clan community being UNSC, insurrection and covenant . You have successfully managed to further destroy what Halo means to most people as you don’t cater for anyone other than prefesional players…so what happnes to the game after they stop playing it ? What about the game population after the competitive people leave ?
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> > call of duty has 1.6 million dislikes and is going to fail if it carries on the way they don’t listen to their community so grow some brain cells and listen to the halo community before it falls too!
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> Man this is just nonsense.
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> while I don’t agree with every decision that 343i has made with regards to H5, to suggest that they are simply ignoring the community just isn’t true.
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> First of all, every time a new Halo game is released, there is a portion of the community who dislikes some of the changes made. If you’ve been around for a while, you’ll know that there was a massive backlash from the CE community when H2 was released. H3 wasn’t so bad, but it happened again when Reach launched. Then we all know what happened with H4.
>
> This simple truth is, you have to push a games formula forward and take risks or you stagnate. Also, there are various factions within the community who want different, sometimes conflicting things.Yes there are people who are unhappy with H5, but there are many who feel it has some of the best MP in the series.
>
> Also, of the changes and additions made to this game since launch have been a direct result of feedback from the community. That’s how we got Warzone FF. That’s how we got this awesome Forge. That’s why we are getting new weapon layouts, etc.
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> so while they may not be doing specifically what you want them too, they are listening.
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> It’s funny to keep hearing these complaints about 343i only catering to pro’s, then you go to pro forums, and see them complaining about 343 only catering to casuals. Haha people need to stop and realize that it’s a tough balancing act.
This is the best response to such (stupid and awkwardly often asked) questions! And I’m not even going to talk about the fact that the op didn’t even state what he wants 343 to do or what they supposedly made wrong, besides saying that 343 isn’t listening to their community, which is simply said bs (answer in the quotation above). This is the best example of a non constructive post!