Why does halo have a shop!?

Games Halo Infinite
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These days people would rather buy their armour then unlock them with hard effort.

343I exploited that and here we are.

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The truth is much worse.
EA Games looked at Mobile Gaming and said “Microtransactions hmmmm. . . . . . . . how can we implement these to suck money from these suckers?” and then they made Microtransactions in Dead Space 3. They eventually realized that it worked better in multiplayer games.
Other developers followed suit.
And BLAMO
Now it is an industry standard to have a multiplayer game with overpriced transactions for either a Pay-To-Win experience or for cosmetics.

All because companies that have over a dozen studios and no publishing platform that they themselves own desired to make easy money.

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Infinites loosing players rapidly so faster they bring in the update to unlock free armour the better. This far in and I still refuse to be a part of that scham.

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Not everyone bought the campaign.

According to the achievement list, only 23% of people bothered to even beat the first boss.
Not to mention the people playing on game pass as well.

That is probably why they won’t get rid of microtransactions. They knew campaign alone was not going to be enough.

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I don’t like the bundles in the shop but there are certain unique things I would like to buy.

Zvezda Helmet or some armor coatings for maximum 400 credits.

I think they would make more money if they sell individual items instead of bundles with stuff that most people aren’t interested in.

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Oh Elden ring how you set my standards so high

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Apperantly the UI is so broken something as simple as that is too hard

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You should be able to buy physical items in the shop and have them delivered to your door.

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Except for the part where they get paid from it being on game pass, and the millions of dollars of sales at $60+

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Yes, but $59.99 x millions x 1 (being the number of times players have to pay).

However, the store is up to ($20 x millions x a lot) , because they can keep selling armor, emblems, colors, effect, etc + ($59.99 x fewer millions x 1) for those that bought the campaign.

You aren’t wrong that your math brings in very much money but it’s once. F2P keeps bringing in very much money.

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Depends on the “hard effort” honestly.

Well curated disconnected challenges of varying difficulties like achievement based unlocks and Vidmaster like those seen in Halo 3?

Yeah absolutely give me more of that in spades.

Grindy ladder based progression systems that suck up your time and give you crumbs at a time at best when the job merits a cookie?

Nope, I’ll take microtransactions.

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This is honestly what I never understood about the hype surrounding Reach’s progression system and progression systems moving forward. It initially took 167 days of maxing out XP to unlock the ability to purchase every piece of gear in Halo Reach, 47 days if you didn’t grind through an additional 5 tiers of non-rewarding XP gains.

Grinding is not nor has ever been a fun mechanic. It’s a psychological tool designed to lock players into a path for consistent population numbers by giving them a false sense of working towards something worthwhile. Some grinds are less egregious than others, but Halo Reach’s was really bad.

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This is why I advocate for a mix of 3 and Reach’s unlock system with a certain amount of armor locked behind achievements and the rest of the armor locked behind a Reach like progression system.

You have challenge unlocks for those that prefer faster but more challenging rewards and the standard progression armor for the people that prefer the grind.

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People bought the full game and the F2P part was stripped off from the main game so they got paid and they got paid by people paying for GPU. It’s a bit ridiculous to assume they didn’t get paid. I’d hardly call charging ridiculous prices for lazy things like color something they should not be bragging about for income. Most people who got the payments are more likely the management. At this point I just see the ‘shop’ as nothing more than exploitation…seeing as all the items together can cost over 1k in real money.

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Kinda like how Borderlands 2 did its cosmetic unlocks. It’s not “Halo”, but it had a really solid unlock foundation.

  1. Random world drop from any enemy/junk pile

  2. Quest specific reward

  3. Challenges (a mix of artificial grinding, area specific targets, gradual natural progression)

  4. Boss/enemy class specific drops

  5. DLC specific unlock of any of 1, 2, 3 and 4

  6. Direct Microtransaction

  7. Event specific unlock via Social Media

It honestly has it all.

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Achievements fair enough not every one has the clsssics to this day. But what about earning credits based on your own skill?

For some it was a slower pace but that seems to be the case now anyway.

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Greed is why, people can sit there and say “oh they need to make money somehow” but when your CEO is taking in most of that themselves it’s not cause they really need the money lmao. They’re penny pushing the customers as much as they can get away with. Base sales alone already pay for most games, the extra money after that then goes into improvements to technology, future content as well as budgeting for the sequel games but you will have to be naive…to think stores are their to pay for the employees. They’ve already made their money, they aren’t getting more from the store profits.

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What?

Which Halo game did this well?

Reach had caps on its end of match payouts, with the “Jackpot” mechanic being the biggest determining factor for how many more credits could be earned. Only certain modes would guarantee hitting the ceiling like BTB, Infection, or Grifball due to the ability to get atrocious amounts of kills.

If the proposed progression system actually rewarded XP fairly for performance/involvement, there shouldn’t be a problem with its introduction.

So you’d be ok with a subpar mechanic because it’s the norm anyway?

Why raise a concern about MTX’s in the first place when that’s the norm?

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I enjoy being pat of that scham.

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Haha, that’s true! Man, I love Borderlands 2. Just recently started Tiny Tina’s and loving it, too!

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Halo reach did it. Basically qhen you play a gane and earn point it adds up to your credit score. The better you did the more you could earn. Most players used firefight for their advantage.

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