Why does Aim Assist fall off on Shield Break?

This is totally false. I shown in my videos that there is no change in AA whatsoever.

Again I find it hard to believe that with thousands of people between forums, Reddit, and Twitter all mentioning over the last five months that something is wrong with aim assist that it would not be a bug and is just BS. Especially when I myself have experienced this issue on multiple occasions.

Though as stated multiple times it does not occur every game. And it is random. If I turn my mouse and keyboard completely off the issue happens less often. My guess is it’s a bug where the game picks up the MKB? Not sure but with the amount of people making these claims it’s definitely an issue somewhere.

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Most people claiming this, on these forums, are on console that have no KBM hooked up.

I think too many people are relying on the game too much to help them out and when they make human error, it just can’t be human error because they are the best and they have the best AA so it must be AA turning off on them.

How about this, let’s just wait and see what 343i finds. If they even find anything, or even if they report anything. Here’s what we do know so far. No, the game is not designed to turn off AA when shields are broken and/or jumping. No, 343i did NOT confirm this is an actually thing in the game and did NOT confirmed it is a bug. As of now, it is no such thing.

I don’t think that’s the case at all. It’s a completely different experience missing your shots vs feeling as if your right thumb stick is extremely loose and nothing is slowing down the response curve as you near the target. I think the issue has been most noticeable because a lot of people where playing MCC leading up to Infinites launch. Maybe it’s a bug with the response curve causing over acceleration? Maybe it’s desync making the aim assist think the target is really elsewhere? There could be multiple causes. But it feels like a loss of aim assist to me.

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Like I said, and have been saying. All these claims are BS. How did I know this? How did I know this before 343i publicly stated exactly what I’ve been saying? Because I did the testing myself and even showed you for you to see with your own eyes. When you do your own homework instead of looking for other claims to paint your bias narrative, you’re only educating yourself.

Do you still believe this SnakeBite guy? I knew he was full of BS and even said it here. He claims he knows 343i implemented a feature so that you receive less aim assist when a shield pops and/or jumping but yet couldn’t show you it in practice during his video, hmmm I wonder why he couldn’t show you. He looks like a complete fool now…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgDzANhxvS0

So because you haven’t encountered it, it doesn’t exist? You probably also deny the existence of a billion dollar, since you never seen it personally?

This is just a laughable argument.

So one dude is noticing something and looking if others experience that to confirm if it was just a feeling or something bigger and that is being biased?
This while you just saying “i haven’t seen it in only a select few matches and i don’t care about any further analysis” and that is not biased?
Dude, your stance is the biased one, because you are only looking at your own experience and don’t even care about anything else that might be out there.

And here you have your bias. You stated something and now are dismissing anything that might counter your statement. And all of that based on the extremely small pool of matches that you have played and not even wanting to look further.

“i haven’t noticed it” is not evidence of something not existing. A bug doesn’t have to appear for everybody and can be luck based or platform based. So you might just had the luck or that you don’t have the platform it appears on.

Let me give an example: i have played over 1,000 matches. Only 1 match had me with the camera outside my Spartan (a bug in the game). If someone now plays on a different pc and plays for example 10 matches. How big would you think the chance is that he encounters that bug? Very slim. Does that mean that if he doesn’t get it in those 10 matches he can claim that that bug doesn’t exist? No , ofcourse not. Yet, that is what you are doing now.

And lets be clear: you make that definite claim solely because you have a bias against contoler players. That makes you try to disregard every possible problem they might have because you think (righly or wrongly, doesn’t matter) they have the upper hand over MKB players all the time. It is that bias that made you completely dismiss experiences that someone says he/she has, because it doesn’t fit that narrative. Because with the ‘evidence’ you are giving you cannot claim that that experience definitely does not exist.

I’m not being bias, I’m stating facts. Are you blind? That kid SnakeBite clearly claimed he knows 343i adding this feature for losing aim assist. 343i publicly released that there is no such thing. Are you adding this up? It equals to total BS.

I wasn’t able to duplicate this claim, so yeah it doesn’t exist. If it was as obvious as everyone is claiming it to be, and a feature implemented by 343i as SnakeBite claimed he knows it is, it would be easy to duplicate.

343i is also going to try to duplicate this claim, and they’ll come up with the same results.

Never seen a game so heavily relied on aim assist to where if they die, it’s not possible it was human error.

I’m just not gullible, like most people are on here. Hard to believe rollers when you have kids like SnakeBite that know, he just knows 343i implemented this feature to lose aim assist. He knows? Yeah, ok. He’s just talking out of his -Yoink!- and trying to sound like he has the inside scoop. Don’t be so gullible.

Love how you roller players act when your myths and claims are busted.

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False. He’s clueless and has no idea what he’s talking about.

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He won’t, nobody will because 343i publicly stating nothing changes with aim assist and nobody will be able to duplicate it because it’s not a thing.

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Some very useful information for both sides of the argument whether you play on controller or M&K, and also explains what some of us (myself included) have described as aim assist drop off when it is actually the aim assist mechanics that are actually broken.

Please watch both videos…

https://youtube.com/watch?v=opJaZgpQzrU

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/_7wN4–cAhU?feature=share

…hopefully this will help put the end to all these arguments between ourselves.

@ItzTheDay and @IntoVaIhalla please watch.

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The first video nails it. I agree 100% with what was said. I’ve been rethinking the issue past few weeks and have come to similar conclusions. Aiming overall is just horrible.

Unfortunately the second video is no longer available. So I was unable to watch it.

I may have pasted the link wrong so just edited it:

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/_7wN4–cAhU?feature=share

This short talks specifically about aim assist breaking. It’s the same guy as the first so it’s available in his videos if link doesn’t work.

Everything he says makes perfect sense for both controller and M&K players…although it looks like @ItzTheDay will disagree as it may not suit his agenda or not comply with his testing.

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Link doesn’t work again. Is this the video you tried to link?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_7wN4–cAhU?&ab_channel=CriticalInfinite

Yeah I think so looking at the code but your link doesn’t work for me either…may be “shorts” can’t be linked. Anyways, it’s the one called “How Jumping BREAKS Aim Assist”.

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Everything he stated, did comply with my testing. He mentioned how much easier controller is than KBM, how 343i made aim assist too strong, how it aims for you (and he showed it just like I did). How easy it is to land 4 shot perfects with controller and he can take 6 and more bust to get a BR kill with KBM. All reasons why he switched to controller and won’t go back until 343i does something. You did watch the same video, right?

I throw the ball with facts, but you people are too soft to catch it and get too offended very easily. This guy just lightly tossed you the ball with facts, resulting in doing the aiming for you.

The guy in the video you posted did do a good job, he stated some facts and adding his own opinions in the mix which there is nothing wrong with. He also says nothing about losing aim assist while jumping, in fact he even says what I’ve been saying, and showing and he shows also. The crosshair will pull up by itself.

He also says multiple times that the controller does the aiming for you, he’s not wrong. I’ve been saying this, I’ve proved it yet I get attacked. Facts are facts.

I’m not disagreeing with him, but he also needs to make his mind up. He says if you’re playing on KBM it’s not the way to play, if you are on KBM switch over to roller and see how much better it is, there’s a reason why it can take 6 and more bust to finish a kill with KBM while you can land 4 shot perfects with controller very easy. These are all things I have said and many other’s who have experience with both inputs. Yeah, aiming may be different than pervious Halo’s but it doesn’t dismiss the fact that controller is doing a lot of work for the user.

I haven’t seen a single person here get “offended.” All we’ve been saying this entire time is there is something wrong. We assume it’s aim assist due to the fact sometimes there is zero assist at all. It could be issues with the response curve as stated in this video. It could be aim assist is inconsistent as also stated in this video. But what we can all agree on is Infinite’s aiming is not the same as every other Halo game and that is the root cause of the issue and the reasons for this discussion.

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Clearly I watched the videos as I posted the link of here…but I have to question what you’ve taken from them or decided to dismiss/ignore/comprehend because you clearly haven’t drawn the same conclusions as myself and that shows in what you’ve posted in your reply. I’ve posted these videos to provide information for both sides but I‘m done discussing this with you…take from it what you will.

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Have you ever considered maybe, just maybe the issue is human error? It’s been showed, proved and backed up that aim assist doesn’t “turn off” during certain scenarios. 343i has also confirmed this.

I have considered this. But again it’s not. That’s a fact. And while 343i has confirmed that aim assist is not designed to intentionally turn off they did not confirm that it doesn’t. They have made clear that a bug could exist and that an investigation is underway.

But as I have stated at least three times now it is possible that what people (including myself) are experiencing is actually an issue with the response curve. This was also mentioned in the video above with evidence. But again something is off. Something is different and doesn’t “feel” like how Halo previously has. Maybe aim assist is the cause. Maybe it isn’t. The point of this discussion is to bring awareness to the issue. To improve the game and to make it play how Halo has played for 20 years.