Why does 343 make the maps?

I was wondering why 343 still makes the maps when community map makers make maps far better.
343 should have dedicated their time to a very advanced forge, made a few default maps for start, and then used community maps for Matchmaking (or War games, which is a dumb name).

I truly do not understand why they didn’t make their maps in a new advanced forge in order to allow for amazing community maps to become the default.

Any ideas?

Um…what?

You’re asking why 343i are making the maps??

What…

> I was wondering why 343 still makes the maps when community map makers make maps far better.
> 343 should have dedicated their time to a very advanced forge, made a few default maps for start, and then used community maps for Matchmaking (or War games, which is a dumb name).
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> I truly do not understand why they didn’t make their maps in a new advanced forge in order to allow for amazing community maps to become the default.
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> Any ideas?

There’s a difference between making a map with forge and actually making map. That may not have made sense, but i think you know where I’m getting at. 343 are making everything from out of thin air.

> Um…what?
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> You’re asking why 343i are making the maps??
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> What…

Yes, but only because I don’t want another set of maps that suck (like Reach).
It would make more sense for popular community maps to be used instead.

> Um…what?
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> You’re asking why 343i are making the maps??
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> What…

I’m still trying to figure out where he got the idea that the community makes good maps…

> > Um…what?
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> > You’re asking why 343i are making the maps??
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> > What…
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> Yes, but only because I don’t want another set of maps that suck (like Reach).
> It would make more sense for popular community maps to be used instead.

You do know 343i didn’t make the maps for Reach don’t you???

Ok well that’s your opinion. Now allow me to disagree with it. I think almost all of the maps I played in reach that were forged, were awful.

> > I was wondering why 343 still makes the maps when community map makers make maps far better.
> > 343 should have dedicated their time to a very advanced forge, made a few default maps for start, and then used community maps for Matchmaking (or War games, which is a dumb name).
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> > I truly do not understand why they didn’t make their maps in a new advanced forge in order to allow for amazing community maps to become the default.
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> > Any ideas?
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> There’s a difference between making a map with forge and actually making map. That may not have made sense, but i think you know where I’m getting at. 343 are making everything from out of thin air.

Yeah… Map makers in Halo 3/Reach isn’t map making… it’s modifying a per existing map. 343i makes maps by using $1000+ modeling software. You honestly thing that the map model is magically generated?

If you want a game like that go play PC games…

Console players are always gonna be treated like children by developers, deal with it.
Hence no mod tools or useful mapmaker.

> > > I was wondering why 343 still makes the maps when community map makers make maps far better.
> > > 343 should have dedicated their time to a very advanced forge, made a few default maps for start, and then used community maps for Matchmaking (or War games, which is a dumb name).
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> > > I truly do not understand why they didn’t make their maps in a new advanced forge in order to allow for amazing community maps to become the default.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
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> > There’s a difference between making a map with forge and actually making map. That may not have made sense, but i think you know where I’m getting at. 343 are making everything from out of thin air.
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> Yeah… Map makers in Halo 3/Reach isn’t map making… it’s modifying a per existing map. 343i makes maps by using $1000+ modeling software. You honestly thing that the map model is magically generated?

This^^^ I think people honestly believe that forge is capable of more than it’s desgined for. Granted I’ve seen some good things come out of forge, kudos to those people. However it is still just a base map designer. The programs actually used by the developers is so much more advanced, complex and oh yeah expensive than the forge implementation.

War Games is a pretty awesome name…

The community makes good maps…your kidding right? 343 is the game dev therefore, they make the maps. I agree the maps in Reach, the non-forged ones were taken from Campaign. The maps in Halo 4 however aren’t.

> War Games is a pretty awesome name…

It’s definitely a good change from “matchmaking”

From what we have seen so far,they are good at making maps.
Beli343.

> > Um…what?
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> > You’re asking why 343i are making the maps??
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> > What…
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> I’m still trying to figure out where he got the idea that the community makes good maps…

We’ve seen full matches on two maps, and they both seem to play really well and look like great maps.

> > > Um…what?
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> > > You’re asking why 343i are making the maps??
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> > > What…
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> > I’m still trying to figure out where he got the idea that the community makes good maps…

Of course they do. There are many talented Forgers out there.

> > War Games is a pretty awesome name…
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> It’s definitely a good change from “matchmaking”

That name was a cruel joke in Reach…

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> > > > Um…what?
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> > > > You’re asking why 343i are making the maps??
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> > > > What…
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> > > I’m still trying to figure out where he got the idea that the community makes good maps…
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> Of course they do. There are many talented Forgers out there.

Talented they may be but i would rather have actual game designers creating the maps then fans