Why is there no true skill ranking system in halo 4? That was the biggest thing I was looking forward to in Halo 4, I thought they would of left the cr system in halo reach…
RIP 1-50
> WHY DOES 343 HATE 1-50 RANKING SYSTEM?
Because they never got their 50s.
I dunno. Considering the most popular halos had a split of ranked and social and 1-50 you would think it would be pretty obvious right?
Why not do again what worked before, when there is no sign it stopped working?
COD follows this mantra, and it turned out to be the “Halo Killer”
> Why is there no true skill ranking system in halo 4? That was the biggest thing I was looking forward to in Halo 4, I thought they would of left the cr system in halo reach…
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> RIP 1-50
sigh You don’t read updates do you. A 1-50 system has already been announced and confirmed to come in January on HaloWaypoint… it keeps incentive away from cheaters by not having open display. It’s going to be fantastic!
1-50 IS COMING BACK! So stop complaining until you have read future updates!
RIP reading.
> > Why is there no true skill ranking system in halo 4? That was the biggest thing I was looking forward to in Halo 4, I thought they would of left the cr system in halo reach…
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> sigh You don’t read updates do you. A 1-50 system has already been announced and confirmed to come in January on HaloWaypoint… it keeps incentive away from cheaters by not having open display. It’s going to be fantastic!
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> 1-50 IS COMING BACK! So stop complaining until you have read future updates!
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> RIP reading.
They never said it was 1-50. They just said it was a ranking system.
OT: People are insecure about their lack of skill at a video game. They don’t like being told that they’re bad.
They hated the fact that people sold 50’s. they are coming out with one eventually
> Why is there no true skill ranking system in halo 4? That was the biggest thing I was looking forward to in Halo 4, I thought they would of left the cr system in halo reach…
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Probably because there not fans of the series, wanted to change it into a game that little to do with halo. That’s why the didact is a sith lord, why the grunts somehow turned into alien frogs, evolution on the coventant suddenly skipped millions of years or went backwards and why they didn’t bother explain that we weren’t fight the covenant anymore but a new faction called the storm, skipping all the peace we had finally achieved in halo 3.
> They never said it was 1-50. They just said it was a ranking system.
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> OT: People are insecure about their lack of skill at a video game. They don’t like being told that they’re bad.
Actually they did say it was 1-50. you can read it in the halo bulletin.
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> Why is there no true skill ranking system in halo 4? That was the biggest thing I was looking forward to in Halo 4, I thought they would of left the cr system in halo reach…
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> RIP 1-50
If you were smart enough, they’re implementing a 1-50 system sometime in the new year, most likely within the first week of January. They announced this prior to Halo 4’s date release.
By the way, reason(s) behind why a 1-50 skill rank system was absent in Halo:Reach was because of the growing problem(s) Halo 3 faced with boosters, account selling & etc.
They could have done a better way of facing those problem(s), but they chose to just rip it out.
Hopefully 343i addresses such issues (if) they ever happen in Halo 4 like it happened in Halo 3 in a better manner.
By the way, does a # beside your name really mean a difference? Sure it “encourages” players, but it will probably bring back boosters & de-rankers, unless as i said before, 343i addresses those issues better.
You obviously did not watch any of the interviews with Frankie during the conventions. This has been covered!!!
> > Why is there no true skill ranking system in halo 4? That was the biggest thing I was looking forward to in Halo 4, I thought they would of left the cr system in halo reach…
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> sigh You don’t read updates do you. A 1-50 system has already been announced and confirmed to come in January on HaloWaypoint… it keeps incentive away from cheaters by not having open display. It’s going to be fantastic!
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> 1-50 IS COMING BACK! So stop complaining until you have read future updates!
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> RIP reading.
I’ll believe 1-50 is back when I see it. I personally at this point believe Halo is dead, done for, and many, many things, including 1-50 ranking will never be coming back.
I’m just hoping Bungie does something truly great with Destiny.
Because people place it on a pedestal that it really doesn’t deserve.
It was more of a proggresion system that relied on wins rather than experience than a true ranking system.
Honestly, a good ranking system should rank you relative to other players (I.E. Arena’s divisions and percentiles) rather than just give you a goal to work towards.
IMO, a good ranking system should also take into account personal performance as well, but that’s up for argument.
> it keeps incentive away from cheaters by not having open display.
Exactly.
Visible ranking systems serve no purpose other then helping those with self esteem issues.
Make it on Waypoint only. End of story.
Yes they said like 1-50, but only on halowaypoint and this the same not CSR, we need to fight for 1-50 visible next to the Name!
> > it keeps incentive away from cheaters by not having open display.
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> Exactly.
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> Visible ranking systems serve no purpose other then helping those with self esteem issues.
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> Make it on Waypoint only. End of story.
WHY?
YOU PEOPLE DON’T LIKE RANKED, DON’T PLAY RANKED PLAY SOCIAL.
I cannot stand the few people out there who for no reason hate the 1-50 ranked system, and even though they can just play social, insist on the overwhelming majority of players who DO want to played 1-50 ranked not being able to.
You would still have your own little system for experience and/or progression. It could be Halo 3’s experience and titles, Reach’s credit system, or 4’s progression system we currently have. I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BECAUSE I COULD PLAY 1-50 RANKED SO WHAT REASON DO I HAVE TO SAY YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE WHATEVER SYSTEM YOU WANT INSTEAD OF 1-50 RANKED???
It makes no sense. The only logical reason anyone would want 1-50 NOT in the game even when they do not care about being ranked, is that they are simply jealous of others who rank higher in that system than they do, and they are unwilling to play long enough to get good enough to rank higher up.
That’s just pathetic to ruin the overwhelming majority of players’ fun ranking up in 1-50 if the minority you are a part of is just mad because Halo 2 and/or 3 ranked you lower than you wanted to be, and you were unwilling to work to get better to move up.
No one is saying ALL playlists should be 1-50 ranked.
We want 1-50 ranked for half of the playlists
We want social for the other half of the playlists
There is no reason to tell other people they can’t play 1-50 ranked when you can simply play social instead if you have a problem with 1-50 ranked.
They’re the same. Neither is a “main” system or any “better” than the other one. Social is a progression type system like we have now.
We simply DO NOT HAVE ANY RANKED SYSTEM NOW. And we did not have it in Reach either really because Arena was stupid, and a massive failure as a result. I tried it out at first but it was just totally stupid the way it was set up.
There is simply NO REASON NOT TO BRING BACK 1-50 RANKED along side social playlists as well, with whatever progression system would be best, whether that’s 3’s exp and titles, Reach’s system, or 4’s system.
> > > it keeps incentive away from cheaters by not having open display.
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> > Exactly.
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> > Visible ranking systems serve no purpose other then helping those with self esteem issues.
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> > Make it on Waypoint only. End of story.
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> WHY?
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> YOU PEOPLE DON’T LIKE RANKED, DON’T PLAY RANKED PLAY SOCIAL.
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> I cannot stand the few people out there who for no reason hate the 1-50 ranked system, and even though they can just play social, insist on the overwhelming majority of players who DO want to played 1-50 ranked not being able to.
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> You would still have your own little system for experience and/or progression. It could be Halo 3’s experience and titles, Reach’s credit system, or 4’s progression system we currently have. I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BECAUSE I COULD PLAY 1-50 RANKED SO WHAT REASON DO I HAVE TO SAY YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE WHATEVER SYSTEM YOU WANT INSTEAD OF 1-50 RANKED???
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> It makes no sense. The only logical reason anyone would want 1-50 NOT in the game even when they do not care about being ranked, is that they are simply jealous of others who rank higher in that system than they do, and they are unwilling to play long enough to get good enough to rank higher up.
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> That’s just pathetic to ruin the overwhelming majority of players’ fun ranking up in 1-50 if the minority you are a part of is just mad because Halo 2 and/or 3 ranked you lower than you wanted to be, and you were unwilling to work to get better to move up.
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> No one is saying ALL playlists should be 1-50 ranked.
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> We want 1-50 ranked for half of the playlists
> We want social for the other half of the playlists
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> There is no reason to tell other people they can’t play 1-50 ranked when you can simply play social instead if you have a problem with 1-50 ranked.
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> They’re the same. Neither is a “main” system or any “better” than the other one. Social is a progression type system like we have now.
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> We simply DO NOT HAVE ANY RANKED SYSTEM NOW. And we did not have it in Reach either really because Arena was stupid, and a massive failure as a result. I tried it out at first but it was just totally stupid the way it was set up.
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> There is simply NO REASON NOT TO BRING BACK 1-50 RANKED along side social playlists as well, with whatever progression system would be best, whether that’s 3’s exp and titles, Reach’s system, or 4’s system.
If his only gripe about it is boosters then it wont effect him anyway since hes playing the playlist he likes in social with the progression rank.
> > it keeps incentive away from cheaters by not having open display.
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> Exactly.
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> Visible ranking systems serve no purpose other then helping those with self esteem issues.
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> Make it on Waypoint only. End of story.
I know, because nobody cheats unless its ranked. It’s so much fun playing against the headless horseman in Swat on Halo 4, or the people in CoD boosting their progressive prestige ranks that have 38 years played and trillions of kills in a years time. So much better than all those “cheaters” in Halo 3.
I think the only people with self esteem issues are the ones who are so upset over a system(in a game) telling them they aren’t the best at something, they need it hidden, or have to complain on every thread why we shouldn’t have ranks saying its only for people with “self esteem issues” or how its only to “belittle people” who aren’t the highest rank.
I don’t have a 50, i’m in favor of ranks, and I don’t give a -Yoink- what anybody thinks about it. Clearly I have self esteem issues, or maybe its you that does.
> > > it keeps incentive away from cheaters by not having open display.
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> > Exactly.
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> > Visible ranking systems serve no purpose other then helping those with self esteem issues.
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> > Make it on Waypoint only. End of story.
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> I know, because nobody cheats unless its ranked. It’s so much fun playing against the headless horseman in Swat on Halo 4, or the people in CoD boosting their progressive prestige ranks that have 38 years played and trillions of kills in a years time. So much better than all those cheaters in Halo 3.
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> I think the only people with self esteem issues are the ones who are so upset over a system(in a game) telling them they aren’t the best at something, they need it hidden, or have to complain on every thread why we shouldn’t have ranks saying its only for people with “self esteem issues” or how its only to “belittle people” who aren’t the highest rank.
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> I don’t have a 50, i’m in favor of ranks, and I don’t give a Yoink! what anybody thinks about it. Clearly I have self esteem issues, or maybe its you that does.
Cheating will still exist, but is much less prominent than it was back in Halo 3. I ran into a lot during my Halo 3 days. I have not met one during my time playing Halo 4.
Just to note, I’m also in favour of ranks, but not in-game. This caused so much controversy, even in social. Hell, I ran into it just as much in social as I did in Ranked. It also created the Halo black market which was a big no-no. Getting rid of the visible ranking system stopped the black market and the abuse over ranks. Better off leaving it waypoint only. Seriously, why does it matter if it has 1-50 or not?
> > > it keeps incentive away from cheaters by not having open display.
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> > Exactly.
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> > Visible ranking systems serve no purpose other then helping those with self esteem issues.
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> > Make it on Waypoint only. End of story.
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> I know, because nobody cheats unless its ranked. It’s so much fun playing against the headless horseman in Swat on Halo 4, or the people in CoD boosting their progressive prestige ranks that have 38 years played and trillions of kills in a years time. So much better than all those “cheaters” in Halo 3.
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> I think the only people with self esteem issues are the ones who are so upset over a system(in a game) telling them they aren’t the best at something, they need it hidden, or have to complain on every thread why we shouldn’t have ranks saying its only for people with “self esteem issues” or how its only to “belittle people” who aren’t the highest rank.
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> I don’t have a 50, i’m in favor of ranks, and I don’t give a Yoink! what anybody thinks about it. Clearly I have self esteem issues, or maybe its you that does.
AMEN!
I never got a 50 in Halo 3, never even got to play Halo 2 online that much, just with my friends who had xbox live back then. I think the highest I ever got in Halo 3 was probably about a 37 or maybe a 42 at most.
I LOVE knowing how good I am at the game, and LOVE the challenge of trying to get to a 50.
Every time a new Halo has come out since Halo 3, I have thought “This will be the Halo where I get a 50 for the first time.”
Reach horribly disappointed me not allowing that possibility. I wondered why a CORE PART OF HALO was removed in Reach.
But I KNEW it would be back in Halo 4 because surely 343 would realize what a grave mistake Bungie made in Reach removing 1-50 ranking.
Sadly, I AGAIN, cannot try to get a 50.
> > > > it keeps incentive away from cheaters by not having open display.
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> > > Visible ranking systems serve no purpose other then helping those with self esteem issues.
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> > > Make it on Waypoint only. End of story.
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> > I know, because nobody cheats unless its ranked. It’s so much fun playing against the headless horseman in Swat on Halo 4, or the people in CoD boosting their progressive prestige ranks that have 38 years played and trillions of kills in a years time. So much better than all those cheaters in Halo 3.
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> > I think the only people with self esteem issues are the ones who are so upset over a system(in a game) telling them they aren’t the best at something, they need it hidden, or have to complain on every thread why we shouldn’t have ranks saying its only for people with “self esteem issues” or how its only to “belittle people” who aren’t the highest rank.
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> > I don’t have a 50, i’m in favor of ranks, and I don’t give a Yoink! what anybody thinks about it. Clearly I have self esteem issues, or maybe its you that does.
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> Cheating will still exist, but is much less prominent than it was back in Halo 3. I ran into a lot during my Halo 3 days. I have not met one during my time playing Halo 4.
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> Just to note, I’m also in favour of ranks, but not in-game. This caused so much controversy, even in social. Hell, I ran into it just as much in social as I did in Ranked. It also created the Halo black market which was a big no-no. Getting rid of the visible ranking system stopped the black market and the abuse over ranks. Better off leaving it waypoint only. Seriously, why does it matter if it has 1-50 or not?
Why does the NFL rank their teams? Why don’t they just see which teams play the most games of football???
Believe it or not, some people want more out of competitive games than just a measure of their progress/ experience. Some people enjoy their skill being measured. It does not effect you if we play 1-50 ranked playlists. We aren’t saying that experience/ progress based systems should be removed, so why are you saying our system should remain removed???