I keep hearing this on the forums, that the TU is just like H3. I consider it nothing more than a bandwagon fallacy.
But it got me curious.
I would like you to tell me why TU is like H3. To me TU is just a better version of reach, but still very far from H3.
Thanks,
Pharmy.
Not sure what it is. I cant stand halo 3. Loved CE, 2, and now reach with TU.
Is the TU similar to 3, I guess… more so than vanilla reach.
To me TU is just a better version of reach, but still very far from H3.
Agreed, and there is just no comparison between to two different and separate games.
Bungie, could have EASILY, made the MM play like Halo 3, with the new addition of AA’s, and IMO, it would have made a much better game, and there wold have been 10’s of thousands less form postings about the broken mechanics and so forth…everyone would have been too busy playing the game to get on the forms and complain about it.
Lets see if 343 can get it right with Halo 4, and go from there.
> Not sure what it is. I cant stand halo 3. Loved CE, 2, and now reach with TU.
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> Is the TU similar to 3, I guess… more so than vanilla reach.
I am trying to find out what specific change makes the TU H3
It isn’t. At all.
I’ll give you the short and long answer, for your convince of course.
Short answer: It isn’t.
Long answer: It isn’t.
I am willing to wager that this thread will offend Guywired and his ilk and they will demand this thread be locked because it’s flame baiting even though Pharm worded so it isn’t.
Can’t say i didn’t tell ya so. Just in case 
I really hope that doesn’t come to pass.
> I’ll give you the short and long answer, for your convince of course.
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I legitimately want to know why they think that.
People keep posting that TU is H3 but they never say why.
> > I’ll give you the short and long answer, for your convince of course.
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> I legitimately want to know why they think that.
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> People keep posting that TU is H3 but they never say why.
That’s because it isn’t Halo 3 and most of them know it; they just repeat what their fellows say in hopes to get a stab at the TU. That and they are really butt hurt, emotional outbursts and all.
As to why they would think it flame baiting. Same reason when it comes to the truth; it usually hurts and many of them are stubborn to accept it even when it’s been proved that the TU isn’t Halo 3 all over again.
So they cry to mods and it just brings up all sorts of pleasantness, not to mention an unneeded lock.
> I legitimately want to know why they think that.
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> People keep posting that TU is H3 but they never say why.
Ditto.
Post-TU or pre-Tu, Reach is nothing like H3.
> > Not sure what it is. I cant stand halo 3. Loved CE, 2, and now reach with TU.
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> > Is the TU similar to 3, I guess… more so than vanilla reach.
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> I am trying to find out what specific change makes the TU H3
I didn’t play much 3, but I could try to compare it…
Shorter kill times at long range.
increased rewards for twitch aiming.
Melee kills at low shields.
That’s it.
> > > Not sure what it is. I cant stand halo 3. Loved CE, 2, and now reach with TU.
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> Shorter kill times at long range.
> increased rewards for twitch aiming.
> Melee kills at low shields.
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But the BR in H3 was worthless at range. In fact the randomness of the BR effects the opposite ranges of the DMR. To me H3 spread was abysmal, but better than bloom in that it was random long range, but very accurate close/mid. Very unlike the DMR that is super random close, but works perfectly at long range.
These two guns are far from synonymous even with the TU.
I agree with the melee. But not the twitch aiming. TU reach is still really slow(both in KT and movement). I do not twitch. I hardly ever touch the aim stick.
Because the TU takes more skill than vanilla reach and people don’t like it when they lose more than they did before.
Reach isn’t like Halo 3 and it never should be. If we had Halo Reach be exactly like Halo 3 we’d be no different then Call of Duty.
let me see, i don’t call it that myself but it could be our own faults …
before TU: “reach isn’t halo”
after TU: “reach is now halo”
so, before TU it wasn’t halo, nothing like it’s previous version, now, after TU it is halo meaning it’s closer to previous version, i.e halo 3 so a conclusion people come to is that it is now like halo 3.
it isn’t halo 3 though, outside of MLG anyway, AAs change things up a little bit, loadouts even more so and they’re still around so it isn’t fare to call the TU halo 3, instead, “consitent reach” is more accurate.
for kids that started xbl and halo in the summer of 2010, its bleedthrough, kill times, and utility weapon authority.
Although TU reach is nothing like H3 (spread), people see the authority of the DMR in the weapon sandbox and shout out “get this halo 3 nonsense out of my team slayer!”
> let me see, i don’t call it that myself but it could be our own faults …
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> before TU: “reach isn’t halo”
> after TU: “reach is now halo”
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> so, before TU it wasn’t halo, nothing like it’s previous version, now, after TU it is halo meaning it’s closer to previous version, i.e halo 3 so a conclusion people come to is that it is now like halo 3.
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> it isn’t halo 3 though, outside of MLG anyway, AAs change things up a little bit, loadouts even more so and they’re still around so it isn’t fare to call the TU halo 3, instead, “consitent reach” is more accurate.
haunted:
reach was halo before and after.
this “shadowrun” nonsense is a joke.
Because none of them understand settings, and believe that bleedthrough was introduced in 2007.
> > let me see, i don’t call it that myself but it could be our own faults …
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> > before TU: “reach isn’t halo”
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> > so, before TU it wasn’t halo, nothing like it’s previous version, now, after TU it is halo meaning it’s closer to previous version, i.e halo 3 so a conclusion people come to is that it is now like halo 3.
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> > it isn’t halo 3 though, outside of MLG anyway, AAs change things up a little bit, loadouts even more so and they’re still around so it isn’t fare to call the TU halo 3, instead, “consitent reach” is more accurate.
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> reach was halo before and after.
> this “shadowrun” nonsense is a joke.
Agreed, some people have a misunderstanding of what halo is. Blind fold me and make me listen to halo reach game play, and I’d know it’s halo (someone who never knew about Reach would do this easily). The community’s making Reach what it isn’t supposed to be, and the people who were fine with Reach are yelling. All because the people who are still stuck and stubborn in 2007, heck even CE. They think change isn’t halo, so anything that is conceived as noticeable change isn’t halo to them. It drives me nuts sometimes…
Not even close to the same game. Halo 3 is it’s own animal, as is Default Reach and now TU Reach.
> I legitimately want to know why they think that.
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> People keep posting that TU is H3 but they never say why.
Because the TU promotes bad gameplay and H3 was the pinnacle of bad gameplay.
Vanilla Reach you had to think about what your options were and how to do them. Unfortunately the generic shooter horde with limited brain power hijacked Reach and its forums whinging about slow(er) kill times, crying about AL and other AA’s and they didnt shut up until they got their way.