Why do the pros hate the mangler?

Which is fine. It’s ok to like power stuff. My problem is. It doesn’t belong in ranked. If I wanted to play with something like the mangler I would expect to see it in feista not ranked. In ranked I want to see who’s better. Not who grabbed the mangler first

Is it just me, or do ranked players want it to be Battle Rifles only?

No. What we want is skill based weapons. There is a reason why Halo 5 HCS settings were born. It’s because we don’t care about the skill people have with any other weapon Besides precision rifles.

In halo infnite they tried their hardest to make every weapon have a role which is a massive mistake because now everyone leans towards the BR only.

You got. The sidekick, camando, and BR. Aside from those weapons there isn’t a weapon that actually takes skill to use. And some don’t even touch the sidekick and camando leaving it with only the BR.

There’s even matches where the sword isn’t touched the whole game because nobody in the lobby cares about cheap easy kills. It’s far more fun to BR battle eachother

Sidekick sees plenty of use.
The Commando however is a gun that does need retweaking. In close range combat it is outclassed by the AR and the Sidekick in terms of TTK. Meanwhile the BR outpaces it in Mid-Range combat. There is literally an achievement you can get where you get a Perfect Kill with the Commando.

That is just foolish.
There is a tool on the field that gains you a strategic advantage and you willingly choose to leave it alone? Wasteful.

I do well with the camando. I just hate how much it jumps.

Sidekick in arena actually doesn’t get used. I end up using it a lot more than any player I ever face. And even then I won’t pick it up as much as I want to. Why? Because high level matches just play too fast. Most of the time there isn’t time to pick up anything. You just have to slay. And if you really think about you don’t need the sidekick. You can play the whole game with the BR alone.

It’s not foolish. Some players simply don’t want an easy win. I know I don’t. If the enemy team starts picking it up then I will for sure try to control it but they don’t pick it up then I won’t either. Like who comes to ranked to use a sword? This isn’t a social playlist

You go to ranked to prove your mastery of the weapons sandbox and map knowledge.

Except there isn’t anything to master with the sword. You just swing and bam. Easy kill. When you kill with a sword you aren’t proving anything. All you proved was that you got to the sword spawn first. (Which isn’t even the middle btw). So the skill for fighting for it doesn’t even exsist either.

Gun skill > power weapon skill ( except for the sniper because that takes skill)

It is a skill of map knowledge. The Sword is ideal in close-quarters environments. Which means you will gravitate towards such areas. Meanwhile the enemy team will avoid such areas upon realizing someone has a sword and is sticking around such places.

By taking up a sword in a match of precision weapons, you technically are handicapping yourself in one department while becoming a nightmare to deal with in another.

im shocked someone is actually thinking about more than just precision weapon skill.

A tool exists on the battlefield, then it has potential to shift the fight into your favor. True combat is adapting to your scenario at hand.

Avoiding the sword just because the other team has it doesn’t make it any less of an easy to use weapon.

Especially in oddball when close qauters happens frequently.

Then there is my own kills. Whenever I kill someone with the sword I don’t think to myself " wow this is such a skillful thing I’m doing". No I realize I’m getting easy kills. Easy kills aren’t fun nor skillfull. It’s ranked. Ranked should be all about skill and nothing else

That statement would be correct for a battle royale. Not an arena shooter that’s ment to be all about balance

What other skill is there? Melee doesn’t take skill. Nades don’t take skill unless you get a sticky or a really far nade kill. Power weapons for the most part don’t take skill.

So what other skills are you talking about

Infinite’s Sandbox is indeed without balance currently.

The Bulldog is a good mid-tier shotgun, but sadly it is futile in countering the Sword.

Halo has always had the Sword given a direct counter from the M90 Shotgun. But now that it is currently out of the roster of requisitions, the Sword is obviously King of the close-range combat. It used to be that if you saw someone with a Sword running around, your next thought was “We need to control the shotgun before they get too far ahead on the score-board.”

It is the skill of strategy.

he explained. he is sacrificing another weapon combo to compliment the br and putting all the cards in map movement skill to get sword kills.

At the very least I’ll level with you there. There is no weapon that counters the sword and the one ability that helps( the repulsor) isn’t always available

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the counter to the sword, is keep your distance from it, or a stickie

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That’s a bandaid. Not a solution

This actually does happen sometimes. At times i would think people just don’t realize how much of an advantage it has on recharge, and then theres times where the matches would flow and feel much more fun, competitive, and it’s like an unspoken rule between both of the teams. Don’t grab sword, we won’t either. Lets happily fight over camo, shock rifle, and the mangler. Lol

Sounds foolish i bet but i actually think thats how it went down. When i was playing it was a higher lobby of good players. So its not that they didn’t realize how OP the sword and be on the map, its more like they didn’t want it to play out that way. Perhaps sometimes we just wanna shoot each other haha.

But…traditionally…yea everyone goes for it lol. Better in your hands than theirs within your match.