Why Do People Say AR Starts is About Weapon Variety?

Everyone has a different experience and that’s ok but there’s something special in this game and it’s not being utilized to it entirety.

No i get all that. Some tips to help in Infinite Ranked:

Placements are determined yes by your placement matches but they are also influenced by your social stats.

Also having a Higher KD (ive been told that technically its Kills per minute but its hard ti have that without a good KD) will increase how much you rise and decrease any drops. So if you know you’re team is losing a match maybe don’t go for the objective as much and try to focus on kills so you wont drop as much.

And yes Infinite is definitely missing its full potential. I just want an armor unlock system like H3 to come back. Give me something like H3 Recon or Hayabusa or H5 Helioskrill to work towards. I don’t like that all the armor in the game is just tied to a time sink. None of it shows skill, just the amout of free time one has.

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Yea really and that may work for some games but not this one. Focus on the game play and the playlist.

The 1-50 system competitively was frustrating in itself how you could win 4 games in a row and lose 1 game and go down a rank sometimes almost as if it was flawed in a way but it should and I believe was corrected in Halo3, if I’m not mistaken. The last true Halo in my opinion. I also had a few issues with that one but it was.

Besides the fact nothing is ranked in Infinite. It’s not worth playing the one playlist that has BR starts even. Not even to start with a BR am I playing ranked right now. Lol
Long wait times for sure and something else I don’t recall I don’t like.

Im telling you the 1-50 is way more rewarding than this medal based ranking. Much more. Edge of the seat nail biting games nearly every game. If you just stick with it. Your everyday video game player doesn’t want that as much as Halo players I guarantee it. We are now older with jobs some have kids some kids old enough now where people can probably play except it’s been dissected they don’t recognize it and COD doesn’t stray to far without recalibration. That’s what Halo needs.

My comment doesn’t take a side, my guy. It’s literally just a statement. It’s also a clear observation of reality.

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Nice, I felt that vibe. Didn’t mean to offend by no means.

You are 100% right about the Halo Infinite ranks.

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Less a lie and more an exaggeration. Of course sometimes people do pick up the ARs and Sidekicks in BR starts, the same as how sometimes people pick up almost every weapon in any mode.

But it’s only sometimes. You don’t see people going out of their way to grab one, rather they’ll grab it if it’s already on their way to wherever they’re going. They still don’t make a strong impact, or see nearly the usage overall as the BR, power weapons, and some tier 2 weapons. And the only thing keeping AR starts from being the same way once players are beyond the “having a general idea of how weapon balance works” skill threshold is the limitation on BR spawns, and lack of real equivalents to supplement those spawns.

Uhh no. The BR is a starter weapon it every being placed on the map taking the spot of a different weapon is pretty stupid in itself. You should be switching to the AR or pistol. With AR starts you almost forced, just like in the H5 I played for years,
To use the Pistol as the starter and the AR as a back up.

People don’t want BR because they get reamed to easily period. There’s so much wrong with it guys who defend it don’t even understand because they aren’t forced into real strategy. Just this fake algorithmic simulation of Halo matches. You cant make a play with a AR as a primary , specially when the pistol only has like 10 in the clip. It’s trash.
People need to just realize that they like the AR because they want other people to have it because it sucks. They want to get a good weapon and everyone else spawn with crap. Then try to flip it and say that’s y I want to start with a BR because why? I want everyone else to start with a BR?
The strategy is beyond the start weapon specially if you survive long enough you ave to pick up weapons I can’t even believe that’s part of the argument. I can’t even believe there’s and argument.
Like playing chess with only pawns, sure you can end every game you play but they plays are going to be short. The other pieces make the strategic plays of the game unpredictable and methodical. Not bald heads bumping each other out of the way.

I almost said next they’re gonna make our characters wear helmets. Hahaha
But you know.

BR Starts = boring gameplay where all you see in the kill feed is the BR all the time. One of the many reasons why Call of Duty is so successful is because you can actually get kills with any weapon and people are using different types of weapons all the time. But in every Halo game its always some op tactical human weapon that being used which = boring gameplay.

Infinite has the most widely usable sandbox of any halo to date. You can literally kill people with anything you want whenever you want.

The BR is fun to use, and fun to get good with. The AR is not. The Sidekick is not. Holding the trigger down and running in Straight lines is not fun

Copy and paste is the spice of life

That’s what all the sensible people do. The AR is a trap weapon meant to trick new players. The sidekick is annoying, but its objectively better in every way.

Heck, someone else said it somewhere, but I wouldn’t be against Sidekick-only starts in some form.

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Yea just even pistols would be more Halo to me than the AR lol sounds dumb kinda lol but seriously I would only pick it up if I was literally out of all ammo on a high spree. Kinda like the other trash guns they try to make better.

Now WARZONE aside WAS the yoink.

Idk, time and a place for everything I guess.

I haven’t played in a few days now have they added double yet?

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I think it comes next Tuesday with the weekly update. They’re also resetting ranks in all playlists if I’m not mistaken

Man… with attention spans these days how can they take so long with everything lol

Hey man one thing is for sure there are a lot of people that love Halo.

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/august-matchmaking-updates

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Because it is. When I get my hands on a BR I keep it until it runs out of ammo, or does not have enough ammo to kill something.

To answer those points:

  1. No. BR is a sweats prefered weapon, so I’d rather they have to work to get it instead of spawning with their favored weapon. If they want to spawn with in contain BR starts in Ranked. Leave Social alone.

  2. That’s what BR users will do to newbies. Generally there isn’t enough ammo on the one BR to do what you describe in any meaningful way. You’d also be saddled with having to camp the weapon spawn which is inherently opening you up to getting flushed out via grenades. AR forces everyone to get in close which consequently moves players within the viable range of other weapons than just the BR and Sniper.

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this is something that bugs me often in these conversations, but what do you mean by “a sweats preferred weapon”?

Are you guys referring to good players as sweats? Or just people who try to win? Also how is that a problem?

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Do you even play Halo

Seriously they start saying stuff that makes no sense, say they like playing social and act like every game is predetermined game.

By my calculations your a sweat whom would like to play the one ranked one BR starts playlist. No one has ever been beat down by a BR also Mr. Sweat.