Why do I get quit banned for being unable to load into a match?

Hear out my story.

So I decided to try the new BTB map before I went to bed tonight, but I kept getting literally every map except it so I kept quitting. Naturally I got quit banned.

Once it was over, I jumped back in to try again, but I simply got stuck on the loading screen with the splash art while apparently the match was going on and my controller was rumbling. After several minutes I was returned to the main menu with a message saying I was kicked for inactivity, and then quit banned again.

Why

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It’s a lot of fun in 343’s opinion.

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It’s been a bug with never loading in properly since the start. Mainly (possibly only) happens in BTB.

It wouldn’t have been a big problem if you didn’t quit all the other games.

The moral of the story is don’t quit.

Nah, wasting 15 minutes or more of my life playing on a trash map/mode combination, no thanks. The ban is shorter than a single BTB match. The most you can get is a 10 minute ban. MCC is actually a lot stricter with quiting than Infinite surprisingly.

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Sounds like we need longer bans.

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They used to just ban people for leaving specifically, because leavers were a huge issue back even in Halo 2. But then people started making excuses to get around being punished for leaving. Lost of connection ( often pulling Ethernet cords ), crashes, ect. It got to the point they just made it leaving matches period and you’ll be flagged, do it enough and it’ll result in a temporary sit out for a handful of minutes.

You can thank people who wanted to abuse the system for this.

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Maybe they should replace players that quit with Spartan level bots. I don’t think they can afford to give out long bans, the game is already pretty much dead outside of peak hours.

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Using the low population as a justification for allowing people to quit games is a double edged sword. People leave because they can’t get fair matchups and having people quit their games makes that worse.

The alternative is that I stand in a corner somewhere not playing, but pushing the stick once in a while not to get kicked for inactivity.

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It’s really simple.

If you’re quitting out of Ranked, that’s an issue that may effect a player’s rank and you probably deserve a temp ban. (even though your team still should have picked their own squad in the first place)

If you’re quitting out of a Social playlist… who cares? It’s a video game and a play list that requires zero investment, and if the team you quit from actually cared about winning, they would have assembled a team of their own before they took the easy route and relied on the matchmaker to randomly select their team mates.

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This argument that other people’s enjoyment of the game only matters if they are playing ranked is really starting to annoy me.

I care about my matches being a decent contest between teams regardless of what mode I’m in and would love for the other players in the match to feel the same or at least respect other players enough to not be happy ruining matches for everyone else.

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The rank of everyone is still affected… so whats to benefit from banning the guy who left? That he can’t participate in another game where he probably stays? The only consequence is, that you decimate your already small playerbase in the short term and, eventually, stop people from playing your game altogether.

There are sooo many good, well established and new ideas to PREVENT quitting and MINIMIZE the effect of quitters but hey… it’s 343… what else would you expect than the most ineffective route? It’s the laziest one with almost no coding and design effort. To be fair… I highly doubt 343 have even a handful of more than average people to pull these solutions of. One solution would have been to listen to the community and look at the forums… but they rather close it altogether instead of using the brains of their players.

In short: bans are here to stay, they won’t chnage a thing for good and cause only more problems. Classic 343. :slight_smile:

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A match composer is needed.

But apart from that… if you do quit then you need to be banned.

Hard.

And then put in a matchmaking pool with other quitters. So you can preferentially enjoy each other’s company. Or lack thereof.

And they can feel free to quit those matches as often as they like.

Have some empathy and respect for others.

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Once again, pick your own team in playlists and you can avoid this heart ache. Anyone playing Halo or any team based competitive game, should know this by now. I mean, what you’re asking for would be nice but this is just how matchmaking has worked. The system can only be so accurate, it isn’t perfect and never will be. So why wouldn’t you help it out a little and pick your own team thus avoiding the random selections. This should be the first thing you do every time you sign on, especially if you care about winning, in Ranked or Socials.

Choosing to go into Ranked is a conscious decision, it wasn’t an accidental button press, you found the specific playlists and selected it. Knowing full well what comes in store when joining Ranked matchmaking. If you didn’t know, then now you know. Losing in Ranked requires players to work extra hard on the next few matches. So if a quitter or two ends up on your team, they could easily blow the match for you just by quitting on you. Sometimes it can work in a teams favor, but most of the time, that team is left handicapped against the opponents. If something important pops up in life, please by all means go take care of it but just remember, you pressed the Ranked playlist, no one else.

Which is a reasonable point.

But not always practical.

And even then you can’t control your opponents. Their quitting is just as destructive.

Okay but I’m playing in Australia and it’s often hard enough to find enough players for a game at all, let alone getting a team of friends to play.

Edit: Also as @Darwi mentioned, opponents quitting also ruins games.

In the mean time I have to rely on other people and the matchmaking. If that doesn’t work out then I just become one more player to have given up entirely.

I mean it’s the most practical thing you can do lol what isn’t very practical is going on the internet and begging other random people, who you may or may not even play with, to disregard what they want or need from Halo just because you think your wants or needs are more important than theirs.

Instead, pick your team, and the problem is solved for everyone lol if you can’t find a team, then play the game anyways just don’t get bent out of shape when you lose… eventually you will find a team.

I would say about 90% of my games are Solo and I don’t complain one time because I know what I signed up for lol

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You completely missed my point.

Not hard. Stupid, because it’s not a solution to the problem. It’s a childish “hah, you misbehaved, no go sit in the timeout corner until I call you back.” Works as great as the death penalty for preventing crimes.^^

It is a video game. A video game that established and encourages rubbing your crouch in the face of your opponent after you killed him. I deal enough with empathy and respect in real life, I certainly won’t put the CSR of some random dudes I never see again over my enjoyment after a long day of work. :wink:
If you are so worried about a completely useless number (made even more uselss by 343) than goplay in a squad.

And again: there are plenty of ways to vaporize these discusion. “empathy and respect” may be the noble route but in reality, it’s the route for 343 where they had the least effort to put in to. And even there they failed by introducing desync and global matchmaking.^^

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Now you’re arguing that asking people to be considerate of others is selfish.

I give up.