I have been a die hard fan of Halo ever since CE. I loved Halo 2 and 3. I have played all other Halo’s like Halo Wars, Halo Reach, and Halo ODST. I cannot fathom to tell you how much I hated Halo Reach and I have played my fair share of it. I cannot begin to even explain how similar Halo 4 is to Reach. I mean if you are going to put a number in a Halo title, make it similar but a bit better than Halo 2 and 3. It pisses me off with this new armor special abilities and an EXTRA grenade. Are you serious, too many grenades are thrown and the DMR is extremely OP, you can kill a guy across the map before he has the time to hide or run. Halo 4 should be a mid combat BR mainly game. I missed Halo 3 and 2 but I’m not playing those because I want something new. Even the spartans kind of remind me of a Reach look.
I do like the perks, and the little point system and weapon load out but you really need to re-think the next Halo and not make it similar to Halo 4, please do us all die hard halo fans a favor and bring back the Halo 2-3 style gameplay and cut all the BS out. Again, I like the load out and perk system and the ordinance calls but don’t bring back this CoD style game play where you can sprint and lob grenades everywhere. Have a more mid range style gameplay rather than across the map.
> I have been a die hard fan of Halo ever since CE. I loved Halo 2 and 3. I have played all other Halo’s like Halo Wars, Halo Reach, and Halo ODST. I cannot fathom to tell you how much I hated Halo Reach and I have played my fair share of it. I cannot begin to even explain how similar Halo 4 is to Reach. I mean if you are going to put a number in a Halo title, make it similar but a bit better than Halo 2 and 3. It pisses me off with this new armor special abilities and an EXTRA grenade. Are you serious, too many grenades are thrown and the DMR is extremely OP, you can kill a guy across the map before he has the time to hide or run. Halo 4 should be a mid combat BR mainly game. I missed Halo 3 and 2 but I’m not playing those because I want something new. Even the spartans kind of remind me of a Reach look.
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> I do like the perks, and the little point system and weapon load out but you really need to re-think the next Halo and not make it similar to Halo 4, please do us all die hard halo fans a favor and bring back the Halo 2-3 style gameplay and cut all the BS out. Again, I like the load out and perk system and the ordinance calls but don’t bring back this CoD style game play where you can sprint and lob grenades everywhere. Have a more mid range style gameplay rather than across the map.
> I have no idea what you’re complaining about.
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> You like perks and loadouts but want H2:H3 gameplay? You say you don’t want grenade spam? That was H2:H3 in a nutshell.
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> DMR is OP? Try BxR
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> I think they did a real good job with the gameplay for MP in H4 but I’m not really a fan of the perks and AA’s.
Not even, you needed somewhat of an aim to use them, plus BxR was something anyone can get good at in a day. And yes i do like a few perks and loadout system but not an EXACT H2/3 Gameplay, take out sprinting and the OP AR, and a couple of ordinance drop selections like the extra damage and speed one, I don’t need some guy running 20mph or 3 shotting me. I agree they did do decent on the game, loved the campaign, I just cannot get a feel for the MP, it is ruined in my book.
Halo 4 didn’t ruin Halo’s MP. Reach did. You can thank Bungie for that mess. If 343 went back to the old style people would be on here screaming about how they weren’t “progressing and innovating” or they were only “copying Bungie”. They were stuck and had to keep the garbage Reach style in a way.
It’s like a ‘-Yoink!- if you do, -Yoink!- if you don’t’ situation. Just be glad they removed a lot of things that made Reach terrible (bloom, AL, etc). Going back to classic gameplay will have to be slow changes so they don’t piss off the brainless consumers…
That is if they want to go back to the classic style.
> Halo 4 didn’t ruin Halo’s MP. Reach did. You can thank Bungie for that mess. If 343 went back to the old style people would be on here screaming about how they weren’t “progressing and innovating” or they were only “copying Bungie”. They were stuck and had to keep the garbage Reach style in a way.
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> It’s like a ‘-Yoink!- if you do, -Yoink!- if you don’t’ situation. Just be glad they removed a lot of things that made Reach terrible (bloom, AL, etc). Going back to classic gameplay will have to be slow changes so they don’t piss off the brainless consumers…
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> That is if they want to go back to the classic style.
This man speaks truth. However, since Halo 3 was the best game to ever grace a gaming console, I would have taken my chances with going back to it’s style of play.
H4 is nothing more than Reach meets COD. What a horrible combination.
> Halo 4 didn’t ruin Halo’s MP. Reach did. You can thank Bungie for that mess. If 343 went back to the old style people would be on here screaming about how they weren’t “progressing and innovating” or they were only “copying Bungie”. They were stuck and had to keep the garbage Reach style in a way.
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> It’s like a ‘-Yoink!- if you do, -Yoink!- if you don’t’ situation. Just be glad they removed a lot of things that made Reach terrible (bloom, AL, etc). Going back to classic gameplay will have to be slow changes so they don’t piss off the brainless consumers…
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> That is if they want to go back to the classic style.
Most of the “brainless consumers” play CoD. Most people I have met knew what I was going on about, and most people have played other halo’s rather than starting on Halo 4. I know what you are going on about and somewhat agree but they could have done better by not having added a few things. What do you think they will put in MP in the next 2 halos? I’m curious to be honest. If they do bad next halo i wont even bother getting halo 6 or whatever it’s going to be called.
> > Halo 4 didn’t ruin Halo’s MP. Reach did. You can thank Bungie for that mess. If 343 went back to the old style people would be on here screaming about how they weren’t “progressing and innovating” or they were only “copying Bungie”. They were stuck and had to keep the garbage Reach style in a way.
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> > It’s like a ‘-Yoink!- if you do, -Yoink!- if you don’t’ situation. Just be glad they removed a lot of things that made Reach terrible (bloom, AL, etc). Going back to classic gameplay will have to be slow changes so they don’t piss off the brainless consumers…
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> > That is if they want to go back to the classic style.
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> This man speaks truth. However, since Halo 3 was the best game to ever grace a gaming console, I would have taken my chances with going back to it’s style of play.
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> H4 is nothing more than Reach meets COD. What a horrible combination.
Glad you agree, and I also agree that too wouldn’t mind going back to a Halo 3 gamestyle, if you didn’t like halo 3 then go back to CoD. Just my opinion. Thanks.
> > Halo 4 didn’t ruin Halo’s MP. Reach did. You can thank Bungie for that mess. If 343 went back to the old style people would be on here screaming about how they weren’t “progressing and innovating” or they were only “copying Bungie”. They were stuck and had to keep the garbage Reach style in a way.
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> > It’s like a ‘-Yoink!- if you do, -Yoink!- if you don’t’ situation. Just be glad they removed a lot of things that made Reach terrible (bloom, AL, etc). Going back to classic gameplay will have to be slow changes so they don’t piss off the brainless consumers…
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> > That is if they want to go back to the classic style.
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> Most of the “brainless consumers” play CoD. Most people I have met knew what I was going on about, and most people have played other halo’s rather than starting on Halo 4. I know what you are going on about and somewhat agree but they could have done better by not having added a few things. What do you think they will put in MP in the next 2 halos? I’m curious to be honest. If they do bad next halo i wont even bother getting halo 6 or whatever it’s going to be called.
After this H4 mess, I can tell you one thing, I certainly won’t be purchasing H5 on release day. I’ll wait and read all of the reviews for a few weeks/months and then decide whether to drop the money. Had I done that on this release, I would never have purchased the game.
> Halo 4 didn’t ruin Halo’s MP. Reach did. You can thank Bungie for that mess. If 343 went back to the old style people would be on here screaming about how they weren’t “progressing and innovating” or they were only “copying Bungie”. They were stuck and had to keep the garbage Reach style in a way.
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> It’s like a ‘-Yoink!- if you do, -Yoink!- if you don’t’ situation. Just be glad they removed a lot of things that made Reach terrible (bloom, AL, etc). Going back to classic gameplay will have to be slow changes so they don’t piss off the brainless consumers…
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> That is if they want to go back to the classic style.
Pretty much this. I really like how Bungie told stories and they made solid games for the most part but I think armor abilities (Armor Lock especially) and nerfed guns really made Reach not so much fun. That’s the only game of theirs I think missed the mark for multiplayer. They tried to go into a new IP a little too soon and should have been more true to core Halo before they passed it on.
I need to play more H4 MP games and game types but so far I like the way 343 tried to bring Halo back.
Halo 3 sucked, it was a joke when compared to Halo 2. I don’t get why everyone suddenly thinks it was the best of the series. Does nobody remember when it came out and everyone thought it sucked just as bad as they claim Halo 4 does now?
Reach was a good game, it was flawed but it was good. Halo 4 took the good parts of Reach and improved them while cutting away the fat. Reach/4 is the new Halo. Halo 3 is in the past, it was stale and boring. If the change wouldn’t have happened, I certainly wouldn’t have bought Reach or Halo 4.
This is the future of Halo, let the dinosaur that was Halo 3 rest in its cold dead grave. I sure as hell wouldn’t still be playing Halo if they pulled a Call of Duty and released the same game every year and expected us to gobble it up.
> > Halo 4 didn’t ruin Halo’s MP. Reach did. You can thank Bungie for that mess. If 343 went back to the old style people would be on here screaming about how they weren’t “progressing and innovating” or they were only “copying Bungie”. They were stuck and had to keep the garbage Reach style in a way.
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> > It’s like a ‘-Yoink!- if you do, -Yoink!- if you don’t’ situation. Just be glad they removed a lot of things that made Reach terrible (bloom, AL, etc). Going back to classic gameplay will have to be slow changes so they don’t piss off the brainless consumers…
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> > That is if they want to go back to the classic style.
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> Pretty much this. I really like how Bungie told stories and they made solid games for the most part but I think armor abilities (Armor Lock especially) and nerfed guns really made Reach not so much fun. That’s the only game of theirs I think missed the mark for multiplayer. They tried to go into a new IP a little too soon and should have been more true to core Halo before they passed it on.
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> I need to play more H4 MP games and game types but so far I like the way 343 tried to bring Halo back.
Just get to about level 30-40. My thought was like yours, I tried to get use to it I honestly did, but it was getting annoying and I am SR 53 and I ONLY get on if my friends are on. I usually do something else if no one is on. In H3/2 I was on alone for alot at times because I just loved the game so much.
> Halo 3 sucked, it was a joke when compared to Halo 2. I don’t get why everyone suddenly thinks it was the best of the series. Does nobody remember when it came out and everyone thought it sucked just as bad as they claim Halo 4 does now?
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> Reach was a good game, it was flawed but it was good. Halo 4 took the good parts of Reach and improved them while cutting away the fat. Reach/4 is the new Halo. Halo 3 is in the past, it was stale and boring. If the change wouldn’t have happened, I certainly wouldn’t have bought Reach or Halo 4.
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> This is the future of Halo, let the dinosaur that was Halo 3 rest in its cold dead grave. I sure as hell wouldn’t still be playing Halo if they pulled a Call of Duty and released the same game every year and expected us to gobble it up.
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> This is Halo 4, not Halo 3.5.
I strongly disagree with your view of H3. But then, I suppose that’s why there are different games out there. My view of H3 is that it came at a magical time in gaming history. Just as network gaming, graphics and consoles (in this case the XB360) were hitting their stride, in walks this unbelievable game with an incredible campaign that took weeks to master, an entirely new approach to MP and maps that were the best we’d ever seen. It was a brilliant combination. Perfect? No…no game ever is. But for its day, it was magic. We were told that H4 was going to go in a similar direction. All they did was take Reach and put some COD stuff in it. What a disappointment. Again…my opinion.
> > halo 3 was terrible.
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> You have got to be joking. Halo 3 will go down as having the biggest impact on FPS of any game in history. SMH.
LOL are you kidding me? What game did you play fan boy my god. Please explain what it did that was so amazing i would love to hear how it was that influential.