So I played rumble pit after the update and I realized the Needle Rifle was removed from Slayer Pro. Why did this this happen? I loved using the Needle Rifle and sad to see it’s gone.
The TU ruined the balance of the Needle Rifle. Imagine firing it at the maximum rate and every round hits your target dead on, hince the removal. They’ll probably alter the firing rate before they reapply the bloom to it.
i didnt think of that, but I do recall being able to destroy the DMR with it. just had to keep to a 3 shot pattern. Shoot 3, pause, shoot 3. Near perfect accuracy, even with 100% bloom.
Plus in TU, the DMR takes the same # of shots to drop shields. The NR penetrates and kills on shot 6 I believe, with out the sheild pop to warn you that you are about to die. I actually prefer it as a result-people dont get that last bit of warning, and it is faster and more accurate.
> i didnt think of that, but I do recall being able to destroy the DMR with it. just had to keep to a 3 shot pattern. Shoot 3, pause, shoot 3. Near perfect accuracy, even with 100% bloom.
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> Plus in TU, the DMR takes the same # of shots to drop shields. The NR penetrates and kills on shot 6 I believe, with out the sheild pop to warn you that you are about to die. I actually prefer it as a result-people dont get that last bit of warning, and it is faster and more accurate.
I out dmr the Needle rifle users.
lol so i dunno.
The 100% bloom NR is more consistent than the 100% bloom DMR’s and resets marginally faster because of the lower damage per projectile, this more consistent bloom is actually its downfall as is many situations the DMR can be spammed and it’s user gets a lucky kill.
The NR has more aim assist then the DMR and is completely broken on 85% and zero bloom with near on perfect accuracy at maximum rate of fire and huge hitboxes.
The DMR is hitscan meaning its bullets have infinite travel speed and provided you aim is on point it should register whereas the NR has a fast projectile travel speed so on a bad connection it could appear to hit on your end but not the host thus resulting in opponents “eating”.
My k/d ratio is higher with the NR but that is because most people don’t use it as much as the DMR and as a result are worse with it. I think the less forgiving bloom combined with lack of hitscan are the main reasons it’s considered a poor man’s DMR.
DMR cant be the only wepaon left in the game you cant rebalance a game by taking every other weapon out of it. what about the stickies, which were my bread and butter for pro? they are giving MLLG people who love DRm the free reign.
I played Slayer Pro with NR yesterday?
Is it not in TU Slayer Pro?
Guys guys, what am I reading.
The removal of NR was PURELY to pull stickies from TU.
It is very easy to out dmr a NR.
the NR is almost a DMR-machingun with explosion, and in the correct hands, it is a very very annoying weapon, fast and deadly. (and not to mention the sticky grenades, you can get killed with one only)
> I played Slayer Pro with NR yesterday?
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> Is it not in TU Slayer Pro?
Yes it’s removed in TU Slayer Pro.
Zero bloom is the way to go 
Because under TU settings, it’s possible to headshot people with an NR by pointing at their crotch.
The needle rifle has alot more auto aim, that could be a reason
the 85% Bloom NR kills as fast as a ZB DMR. That is why. In the TU a perfect 5SK DMR will lose to a Auto-fired 7SK NR every time.
> Guys guys, what am I reading.
> The removal of NR was PURELY to pull stickies from TU.
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> It is very easy to out dmr a NR.
Very funny. If the intent was to remove Stickies you’d think they would simply switch them out for frags in the NR loadout.
NR + 85% bloom = borked
> Guys guys, what am I reading.
> The removal of NR was PURELY to pull stickies from TU.
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> It is very easy to out dmr a NR.
Not exactly but that is the actual reason for the complaining. It has nothing to do with the NR itself, just the removal of the plasma grenade spawns.
> the 85% Bloom NR kills as fast as a ZB DMR. That is why. In the TU a perfect 5SK DMR will lose to a Auto-fired 7SK NR every time.
??? maybe at mid-long.
at short mid ive out DMR’d countless NRs and ive been out DMR’d with a NR myself.
I think the needle rifle looked and sounded cooler. The zoom in looked awesome, and I always had more fun with it, maybe because it had a larger magazine so less reloading, and most people didn’t use it. The dmr is EVERYWHERE, it’s such a boring weapon to use, I’d rather drain someones shields then headshot them with the pistol. The spiker is my fav weapon for automatic fire. But taking stickies out of slayer, what for? Because a few people raged when they got stuck? C’mon 343! It’s part of the game, are you going to remove every thing people rage about? I rage about not being able to get certain medals in campaign or firefight yet nothing is done about that.
I say if you’re going to remove bloom for DMR, then do the same for the Needle Rifle. That and remove auto aim. Next you’re going to remove all covenant weapons from matchmaking I bet.