my favorite thing to do was drive a mongoose around on vortex. what was the point of taking them out of some of the maps? il be back when they are put back in.
Perhaps it wasn’t getting used as much as other vehicles and wasn’t as useful/didn’t have that big of an influence on gameplay to keep it in.
> my favorite thing to do was drive a mongoose around on vortex. what was the point of taking them out of some of the maps? il be back when they are put back in.
I’d say you’d be missed but you don’t actually play matchmaking so that’s not really true.
> > my favorite thing to do was drive a mongoose around on vortex. what was the point of taking them out of some of the maps? il be back when they are put back in.
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> I’d say you’d be missed but you don’t actually play matchmaking so that’s not really true.
i used to play a lot. i came back to play more, but after playing big team i noticed the mongoose has been taken out of most the maps. i don’t see a reason for taking them out. it was a part of what made big team fun.
> > > my favorite thing to do was drive a mongoose around on vortex. what was the point of taking them out of some of the maps? il be back when they are put back in.
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> > I’d say you’d be missed but you don’t actually play matchmaking so that’s not really true.
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> i used to play a lot. i came back to play more, but after playing big team i noticed the mongoose has been taken out of most the maps. i don’t see a reason for taking them out. it was a part of what made big team fun.
Any time I see people using Mongooses in BTB it’s generally because they have no interest in actually playing the game and instead just do ‘laps’ around the map while ignoring their team and the enemy alike (And getting shot at in the process), or they only get in them long enough to dart over to the enemy “base” and see what goodies might be left lying around (Sniper and Mantis on Ragnarok, Mantis and Guass hog on Vortex)
Oh yeah, and Capture The Flag games. That’s about the only time I ever see people bother with them.
But outside of that, I almost never see the mongooses do anything but sit there collecting dust. I don’t see how they make BTB fun, since they served little to no purpose in slayer games. CTF was the only game where they were remotely useful.
> > > > my favorite thing to do was drive a mongoose around on vortex. what was the point of taking them out of some of the maps? il be back when they are put back in.
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> > > I’d say you’d be missed but you don’t actually play matchmaking so that’s not really true.
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> > i used to play a lot. i came back to play more, but after playing big team i noticed the mongoose has been taken out of most the maps. i don’t see a reason for taking them out. it was a part of what made big team fun.
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> Any time I see people using Mongooses in BTB it’s generally because they have no interest in actually playing the game and instead just do ‘laps’ around the map while ignoring their team and the enemy alike (And getting shot at in the process), or they only get in them long enough to dart over to the enemy “base” and see what goodies might be left lying around (Sniper and Mantis on Ragnarok, Mantis and Guass hog on Vortex)
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> Oh yeah, and Capture The Flag games. That’s about the only time I ever see people bother with them.
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> But outside of that, I almost never see the mongooses do anything but sit there collecting dust. I don’t see how they make BTB fun, since they served little to no purpose in slayer games. CTF was the only game where they were remotely useful.
but that was already the case in previous halo games
The mongoose is a great way to get from point A to B in a hurry. I don’t care what people say that thing has its uses. It’s also a great way to stay in shape.
> > > > my favorite thing to do was drive a mongoose around on vortex. what was the point of taking them out of some of the maps? il be back when they are put back in.
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> > > I’d say you’d be missed but you don’t actually play matchmaking so that’s not really true.
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> > i used to play a lot. i came back to play more, but after playing big team i noticed the mongoose has been taken out of most the maps. i don’t see a reason for taking them out. it was a part of what made big team fun.
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> Any time I see people using Mongooses in BTB it’s generally because they have no interest in actually playing the game and instead just do ‘laps’ around the map while ignoring their team and the enemy alike (And getting shot at in the process), or they only get in them long enough to dart over to the enemy “base” and see what goodies might be left lying around (Sniper and Mantis on Ragnarok, Mantis and Guass hog on Vortex)
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> Oh yeah, and Capture The Flag games. That’s about the only time I ever see people bother with them.
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> But outside of that, I almost never see the mongooses do anything but sit there collecting dust. I don’t see how they make BTB fun, since they served little to no purpose in slayer games. CTF was the only game where they were remotely useful.
^Pretty much what he said^
I am big on BTB, and I barely see players use the Mongoose. I only see the Hog, Mantis, and Banshee being used with the Mongoose sitting around in the bases. However, there are sometimes, players use them, but pretty much don’t do anything but drive around, not participating in the match.
I am with pie on this one.
The great thing about Halo is the variety, the ability to play the game multiple ways and have non conventional styles of play that are ridiculous and fun for others to watch. Killing types of play by doing things like removing the mongoose is making Halo much more sterile and boring. Just like there needs to be ranked playlists for people who take things seriously there needs to be mongooses higher map ceilings and crazy physics for those who don’t.
> my favorite thing to do was drive a mongoose around on vortex.
Then I’m very glad they were removed from matchmaking. If you like driving around, start a custom game. You ruin the fun for the other players who are trying to play the game the way it was meant to be played.
> Killing types of play by doing things like removing the mongoose is making Halo much more sterile and boring. Just like there needs to be ranked playlists for people who take things seriously there needs to be mongooses higher map ceilings and crazy physics for those who don’t.
You shouldn’t join a matchmaking playlist without the intention of playing accord to the spirit of the game. You should not join a Slayer gametype with the intention to race. If you want to race, play the Race gametype.
> > my favorite thing to do was drive a mongoose around on vortex.
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> Then I’m very glad they were removed from matchmaking. If you like driving around, start a custom game. You ruin the fun for the other players who are trying to play the game the way it was meant to be played.
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> > Killing types of play by doing things like removing the mongoose is making Halo much more sterile and boring. Just like there needs to be ranked playlists for people who take things seriously there needs to be mongooses higher map ceilings and crazy physics for those who don’t.
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> You shouldn’t join a matchmaking playlist without the intention of playing accord to the spirit of the game. You should not join a Slayer gametype with the intention to race. If you want to race, play the Race gametype.
He didn’t say he was racing. He said he used the Mongoose to play the game non conventionally, that doesn’t mean he drives around in circles while his teammates die.
> > my favorite thing to do was drive a mongoose around on vortex.
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> Then I’m very glad they were removed from matchmaking. If you like driving around, start a custom game. You ruin the fun for the other players who are trying to play the game the way it was meant to be played.
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> > Killing types of play by doing things like removing the mongoose is making Halo much more sterile and boring. Just like there needs to be ranked playlists for people who take things seriously there needs to be mongooses higher map ceilings and crazy physics for those who don’t.
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> You shouldn’t join a matchmaking playlist without the intention of playing accord to the spirit of the game. You should not join a Slayer gametype with the intention to race. If you want to race, play the Race gametype.
Tool of destruction = mongoose
K/D = positive.
I am having fun and my teams win more than half of my games. I go into games solo or with 1-2 friends. I have a net positive effect on my teams, so please don’t get all high and mighty and tell me I am running anything for anyone.
listen to an album cover, he is right. back in halo 3 we had multiple games with 10-15+ mongoose kills and im sure someone has done more. i could post so many videos showing how good it can be. and its even easier to use in halo 4. not everyone wants to be some mlg pro wanna be br player, i find killing people with the mongoose to be way more fun.
> Tool of destruction = mongoose
> K/D = positive.
You missed one.
Tangible benefit for your team = zero.
A brief look at your stats shows that you typically leave your team to pick up your slack while you do you own thing. So while you may enjoy running around in a mongoose, your team has to struggle because you aren’t actually helping them.
You’re right to say your TEAM is winning half your games. Because I’m sure they wouldn’t be thanking you for being helpful.
> > Tool of destruction = mongoose
> > K/D = positive.
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> You missed one.
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> Tangible benefit for your team = zero.
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> A brief look at your stats shows that you typically leave your team to pick up your slack while you do you own thing. So while you may enjoy running around in a mongoose, your team has to struggle because you aren’t actually helping them.
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> You’re right to say your TEAM is winning half your games. Because I’m sure they wouldn’t be thanking you for being helpful.
The fact that he gets more kills than deaths is really good enough. That’s a rare thing to find among most MM randoms.
> > > Tool of destruction = mongoose
> > > K/D = positive.
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> > You missed one.
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> > Tangible benefit for your team = zero.
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> > A brief look at your stats shows that you typically leave your team to pick up your slack while you do you own thing. So while you may enjoy running around in a mongoose, your team has to struggle because you aren’t actually helping them.
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> > You’re right to say your TEAM is winning half your games. Because I’m sure they wouldn’t be thanking you for being helpful.
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> The fact that he gets more kills than deaths is really good enough. That’s a rare thing to find among most MM randoms.
Mongooses don’t team shoot. People like me have to make up for others going negative or neutral in k/d to win our games…it’s not fun for us.
> > Tool of destruction = mongoose
> > <mark>K/D = positive.</mark>
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> You missed one.
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> <mark>Tangible benefit for your team = zero</mark>.
? surely a +ve K/D will benefit the team ? 1 kill to 0 death will benefit the team.
Also, maybe the benefit to Album’s team is the psychological boost from the enemy surprise at dying to 'goose splatters?
I do see the mongoose used frequently on complex for slayer gametypes, because there are few alternative vehicles.
Even if the mongoose is redundant / unwanted for many players I didn’t see any complaints so I don’t see why they should be removed from vortex etc.
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> ? surely a + K/D will benefit the team ? 1 kill to 0 death will benefit the team.
1 kill and 0 deaths is an afk player in my book. Might as well not be in the game in the first place, which means your team is 1 person short when it comes to fighting for map control or objectives. And someone driving around a map on a mongoose absolutely will not get 0 deaths, ever, except against the most incompetent Halo players I’ve ever seen in my life…in which case you didn’t need the mongoose driver to help you win in the first place since it’ll be a landslide win.
You’re not going to convince me someone driving around on a mongoose is helping their team unless they’re ferrying a flag carrier, which obviously isn’t what these people are talking about.
I still don’t see how useful a mongoose can be as a “weapon” if the enemy controls both Mantises and the Banshee. Sure, you might splatter an AFK person or a guy not paying attention, but what harm could you possibly do to that Mantis in a mongoose?
I really have to agree with iiM LighT here - the chances that sticking entirely to driving the Mongoose around on Vortex/Exile/etc will end up assisting your team more than slowing it down is minimal at best. If anything it’s assisting the enemy team more than yours since a lone mongoose is an easy kill even without power weapons or offensive vehicles.
"Not everyone wants to be some mlg pro wanna be br player. I find killing people with the mongoose to be way more fun. "
And that’s what the Action Sack playlist is for, as well as custom games. You find it way more fun, but what about the rest of your team? I find the mongoose fun to drive too, and am amused whenever I splatter someone with it, but I’d never want to spend the match in it. Maybe if we were halfway through the game and winning by 700 points where it no longer mattered, but when both teams are about even? That’s essentially the equivalent of being a man down.
All that being said, these are my opinions and you have yours.
Honestly, the mongoose serves almost no point in Big Team Slayer. Even in KOTH the mongoose is rarely used. The only time the mongoose is used constantly, is in CTF, and as CTF has it’s own playlist, I don’t see the point of keeping the mongoose in Big Team.