If you look at the BR’s up to H3 it were these classic 3 burst shots that were spread out over a time range of lets say 0.4 seconds (ofcourse I dont know the exact time it took to fire 1 shot, but its for comparison).
But if you look at the BR’s in H4/H5 they became these semi DMR guns who still shoot 3 burst shots but they are so fast it sometimes doesnt feel like BR anymore. The amount of time to shoot a 3 burst is probably half of the classic ones. The difference is quit big when you pick up a H2 BR after using a H5 a lot.
Im wondering why did this change? Was there a reason or did 343 just feel like it, because I think its a downgrade of the BR.
ps. the H3 & H2 br sounded way cooler.
It’s still a 3 round burst and has a spread just like any other. I don’t see how it’s an issue just cuz people don’t like the asthetics of the newer guns and whatnot or the sound. What they should be focusing on is 343 needing to have a full packed game with no missing playlists, and downgrades in features. The change of the br or Rickey is minimal if you ask me and it really isn’t a downgrade cuz they preform the same reguardless. FYI: the h5 br may look ugly but it takes more skill than the h2 version since the h2 version is packed with magnetism to it that the h5 version lacks, meaning the h2 version is more forgiving and h5 punishes you more for missing your shots. So if 343 “messed” up the looks and sound if the br, at least they made it a rewarding gun to use.
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> It’s still a 3 round burst and has a spread just like any other. I don’t see how it’s an issue just cuz people don’t like the asthetics of the newer guns and whatnot or the sound. What they should be focusing on is 343 needing to have a full packed game with no missing playlists, and downgrades in features. The change of the br or Rickey is minimal if you ask me and it really isn’t a downgrade cuz they preform the same reguardless. FYI: the h5 br may look ugly but it takes more skill than the h2 version since the h2 version is packed with magnetism to it that the h5 version lacks, meaning the h2 version is more forgiving and h5 punishes you more for missing your shots. So if 343 “messed” up the looks and sound if the br, at least they made it a rewarding gun to use.
did you read my topic? I said its still a 3 burst, but why change it that the 3 burst is so fast its almost like a one shot dmr. Thats what this topic is about, I know about the bullermagnitism of the H2 BR, but I didnt say anything about that. Its more that the BR feeling is kinda weird and made less exciting as it was, just pick up a H2 BR and you understand what I mean, the sound the feeling is not what it was anymore.
Just wondered if they had a reason to do is.
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> > It’s still a 3 round burst and has a spread just like any other. I don’t see how it’s an issue just cuz people don’t like the asthetics of the newer guns and whatnot or the sound. What they should be focusing on is 343 needing to have a full packed game with no missing playlists, and downgrades in features. The change of the br or Rickey is minimal if you ask me and it really isn’t a downgrade cuz they preform the same reguardless. FYI: the h5 br may look ugly but it takes more skill than the h2 version since the h2 version is packed with magnetism to it that the h5 version lacks, meaning the h2 version is more forgiving and h5 punishes you more for missing your shots. So if 343 “messed” up the looks and sound if the br, at least they made it a rewarding gun to use.
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> did you read my topic? I said its still a 3 burst, but why change it that the 3 burst is so fast its almost like a one shot dmr. Thats what this topic is about, I know about the bullermagnitism of the H2 BR, but I didnt say anything about that. Its more that the BR feeling is kinda weird and made less exciting as it was, just pick up a H2 BR and you understand what I mean, the sound the feeling is not what it was anymore.
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> Just wondered if they had a reason to do is.
Is there some obligation I don’t know about? Yes I read your topic, I even addressed it by saying it should be the least of our worries of all things because it really isn’t a big deal. If you need to know “why” 343 changed it I’m sure their sprint videos may go into detail. In short they want to add their own flavor to it just like everything else they do. They’ve changed some of the weapon looks, forunner architecture, the Spartans, majority of the alien races, ect ect. The art style as a whole has pretty much changed, that’s what can bug people but if they would’ve just changed the br but kept everything else, I don’t think we’d see many complaints on it. Me personally, I wish 343 would mix their art style with Bungies cuz both have good art style that I think can mesh.
Fyi: I know realism shouldn’t dictate games, but realistically you’ll never see a 3 round burst rifle unless you watch it in slow motion. You’ll still feel the kick of three rounds, but you won’t see it. That’s another thing 343 has going for them, making everything more realistic which many don’t like.
1st,
you are wrong your belief on how it feels versus what is. You’re using “feels”!!! The kill time between an H3BR and H5BR is 200ms. Literally, just enough time to realize there is a difference but not react to it. Your description does not do your point justice as a hyperbole.
Here’s a video clearly showing it’s all sound
2nd,
H4 & H5 are hitscan while H3’s is only for the first frame.
3rd,
the H2BR is hitscan and a spittle gun pre-TU. Post TU, the H2BR is a swiping-DMR. TTK: about 1.45s
the H3BR is random mess of spittle because it’s not hitscan and its blooming spread function to the burst. The 2nd bullet has more spread than the 1st, the 3rd more than the 2nd. Scoping in only enhances red reticle range and does not reduce spread. It has the LONGEST kill time of all Halo BR’s. TTK: about 1.5s
The H4BR has random spread like the H3BR, but it’s hitscan. Scoping in does reduce the spread while extending red reticle range. There is recoil kick too, crouching does nothing to reduce it. TTK: about 1.4s
The H5BR has no random spread, it only has a rising kick function that simulates a spread at distances and with movement/reticle swiping. Scoping increases red reticle range but you can only eliminated the kick by crouching. TTK: about 1.2s
4th, the H3BR’s sound is stuttered with mechanical clunks to give more of a triple burst sound BUT every other BR has a more elongated yet single shot-like sound (see video above).
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> 1st,
> you are wrong your belief on how it feels versus what is. You’re using “feels”!!! The kill time between an H3BR and H5BR is 200ms. Literally, just enough time to realize there is a difference but not react to it. Your description does not do your point justice as a hyperbole.
> Here’s a video clearly showing it’s all sound
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> 2nd,
> H4 & H5 are hitscan while H3’s is only for the first frame.
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> 3rd,
> the H2BR is hitscan and a spittle gun pre-TU. Post TU, the H2BR is swiping-DMR. TTK: about 1.45s
> the H3BR is random mess of spittle because it’s not hitscan and its blooming spread function to the burst. The 2nd bullet has more spread than the 1st, the 3rd more than the 2nd. Scoping in only enhances red reticle range and does not reduce spread. It has the LONGEST kill time of all Halo BR’s. TTK: about 1.5s
> The H4BR has random spread like the H3BR, but it’s hitscan. Scoping in does reduce the spread while extended red reticle range. TTK: about 1.4s
> The H5BR has no random spread, it only has a rising kick function that simulates a spread at distances and with movement/reticle swiping. Scoping increases red reticle range but you can only eliminated the kick by crouching. TTK: about 1.2s
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> 4th, the H3BR’s sound is stuttered with mechanical clunks to give more of a triple burst sound BUT every other BR has a more elongated yet single shot-like sound (see video above).
Thanks for the detailed answer, after watching the video I think its because of the sound sample used, that it makes it feel more like a 3 burst compared to the H5 br. Because the burst looks the same but the sound of the H5 BR is more like a one shot if you compare it to the H2 BR sound where you can kinda distinguish the 3 shots coming out.
I still think the 3-round burst is effective. I often drop 3 grunts or 3 crawlers with one BR Shot in WZFF.