Why Did I Get Banned - The Official Thread

What is challenge resetting anyway? Ive been hearing about this and wondering why people are even allowed the option to reset in the first place if it will get you banned for so long and get your credits zilched? Just curious

> > You know what you did, you were told by an admin you had no case, can you just accept that for gods sake?
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> No, I can’t and I won’t. So why don’t you stop trolling me and let me do what I need to. I did something while it wasn’t against the rules and got reset for it somehow. 343 is not really assisting me when I need it. You and them don’t seem to understand that doing something before it is against rules of any kind does not mean that you are punished when the rules are changed so it is against the rules.

I can’t imagine what you would be like in real life if you got arrested for murder when it wasn’t you.

Oh well, good luck getting no where.

> good luck

Jesus! Thank you! I just wish that people like you and 343 would listen to reason!

> > Correct. No need to wait anymore.
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> Will you justify that for me since I never technically broke the rules?

It’s called common sense. Why should you earn credits for not playing the game? Technically, that’s taking advantage of a glitch in the credit payout system. One that you fully took advantage of on numerous occasions by AFK’ing in numerous games. If memory serves me, taking advantage of known exploits is bannable… if not mentioned by Bungie, it is most definitely acknowledged by Xbox LIVE’s Terms of Use that you accept to create an account.

> 4. Using the Service. When using the Service, you must comply with this contract, all applicable laws and the Microsoft Anti-spam Policy (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=117951). You must also obey the Xbox LIVE Code of Conduct (www.xbox.com/legal/codeofconduct and its successors). You must not: use the Service to harm others or the Service (for example, you must not use the Service to harm, threaten, or harass another person, organization or Microsoft); damage, disable, overburden, or impair the Service (or any network connected to the Service); resell or redistribute the Service or any part of it; use any means we don’t authorize to modify, reroute, or gain access to the Service or attempt to carry out these activities; use the Service for commercial purposes (except as expressly permitted by us); use any automated process or service (such as a bot, a spider, a scraper, periodic caching of information stored by Microsoft, or “meta-searching”) to access or use the Service or copy or “scrape” data on the Service; use any unauthorized third-party software, service, or device to access the Service; disrupt, or try to gain unauthorized access to any account, computer, hardware, or network related to the Service; obtain (or try to obtain) any data from the Service or related hardware, except data that we intend to provide or make available to you; use the Service or related hardware to design, develop, or update unauthorized software; use or distribute unauthorized cheats, macros, or scripts; or exploit a bug, or make an unauthorized modification, to any software or data to gain unfair advantage in a game, contest, or promotion.

Ranking up without actually playing would be considered exploiting a bug to gain unfair advantage. You are gaining credits without playing. Doesn’t matter whether you did this before it was “officially” listed as a rule. It’s a breach of your Xbox LIVE Terms of Use. Would you prefer being reported to Xbox LIVE instead of just losing the ability to earn cR in Halo : Reach?

Lack of common sense is no defense… neither is ignorance.

Lets Just say that if you was Making a Commentary while playing firefight online with friends while recording with a Capture Card, and you disconnect from the others, you play until the game is over, you get credits and >BAM!< Your banned, Reset and can not play Reach For two weeks, If this really happened, and you had proof with a Capture Card, would 343I Unban the player and give thier rank back?

This is a VERY Unlikely, but would they see it as a Accident?

Another thing: Bungie Only banned players by checking if they have moved and stayed in a spot for a matter of minutes.

So if 343 Is the same…What happened if you Got disconnected and playing on your own, If your still earning credits and playing until the end i think they should check this, They must know some Connections are slower during Peak Times and players unfortunately Disconnect and play on thier own.

So if your one of them, Be advised to check your Nat is: OPEN
Your more likely to disconnect when your NAT is either on Moderate Or Closed, Try and put your wireless channel on another, this has worked for me.

Thanks.

TLDR: Read the Thread. Important stuff.

I’m not banned but I have a question. My brother and his friend recovered their gamertags on my console and when we went to play Halo it gave me the 5000 Cr it first gives you in the game and its telling me Welcome To Noble Team and to chose my gender even though I am a Colonel Grade 1.

Should I be worried about this because after they quit it signed me out and I started again and it brought me back to the Welcome To Noble Team screen so I turned off my xbox?

> Lets Just say that if you was Making a Commentary while playing firefight online with friends while recording with a Capture Card, and you disconnect from the others, you play until the game is over, you get credits and >BAM!< Your banned, Reset and can not play Reach For two weeks, If this really happened, and you had proof with a Capture Card, would 343I Unban the player and give thier rank back?

If you were playing with friends and disconnecting often I highly suggest you play a Firefight custom game instead of matchmaking.

There, hypothetical problem solved.

> > Lets Just say that if you was Making a Commentary while playing firefight online with friends while recording with a Capture Card, and you disconnect from the others, you play until the game is over, you get credits and >BAM!< Your banned, Reset and can not play Reach For two weeks, If this really happened, and you had proof with a Capture Card, would 343I Unban the player and give thier rank back?
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> If you were playing with friends and disconnecting often I highly suggest you play a Firefight custom game instead of matchmaking.
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> There, hypothetical problem solved.

The thing is, I love playing Firefight with friends and other players, Mostly all the time My connections fine, but some days it can be a bit dodgy and could cut me out. Up to now my nat is Open and it has been fine up to now. But any recommendations about the connection would be very useful :slight_smile:

> Lets Just say that if you was Making a Commentary while playing firefight online with friends while recording with a Capture Card, and you disconnect from the others, you play until the game is over, you get credits and >BAM!< Your banned, Reset and can not play Reach For two weeks, If this really happened, and you had proof with a Capture Card, would 343I Unban the player and give thier rank back?
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> This is a VERY Unlikely, but would they see it as a Accident?
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> Another thing: Bungie Only banned players by checking if they have moved and stayed in a spot for a matter of minutes.
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> So if 343 Is the same…What happened if you Got disconnected and playing on your own, If your still earning credits and playing until the end i think they should check this, They must know some Connections are slower during Peak Times and players unfortunately Disconnect and play on thier own.
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> So if your one of them, Be advised to check your Nat is: OPEN
> Your more likely to disconnect when your NAT is either on Moderate Or Closed, Try and put your wireless channel on another, this has worked for me.
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> Thanks.
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> TLDR: Read the Thread. Important stuff.

My understanding of the rules says that you’re responsible for your console, your profile and who plays on it, and your connection. Getting quit banned because of your connection issues falls under your responsibilities. If you used an ounce of common sense, you’d make the commentaries on your capture card using the footage in Theater Mode while you’re not in Matchmaking… or as Total Sellout said, in customs where you’re not in Matchmaking.

How Many Quits in a row/Day/week to get banned?

> How Many Quits in a row/Day/week to get banned?

3-4 to be put on probation and then one more will force you to be quit banned and you will be on probation for a few days, the more you quit the longer your probation is.

Please disregard my last post. The problem has been resolved

No justification yet. After a ban from the forums, I am still waiting.

> No justification yet. After a ban from the forums, I am still waiting.

OK, so you have continually spammed the forums after being told by numerous people (including a moderator) why it was wrong, regardless of a direct rule forbiding this or not. You also said you were banned from the forums, which means they are tired of the spamming. But for the sake of trying to explain it to you one more time, here goes:

Earning of credits in the legal sense, falls under a “implied contract”. An implied contract, like payment for your job, means you will earn something in exchange for performing a task. In this case you earn credits for playing the game. An implied contract can easily be enforced if the majority of a population’s “common sense” agrees with the contract. This part also applies, while about 15k players were banned and reset, there are more than 700k players on any given day, meaning less than 2% (and actually it is much smaller as Reach sold millions of copies) knew AFKing would be wrong.

You were also told you agreed to Xbox terms of service and the exact information was put in a previous post, you used an exploit.

The last bit (and another big reason you need to stop posting here) is when you were reset Bungie had control, which means any information about your ban/reset is in the hands of Bungie, 343 had nothing to do with, I doubt they have any of the information from before the reset or all the data involved with the reset. This is like complaining at a new job your old boss still owed you money, the new boss can do nothing about (nor should they).

So please so spamming, accept it and move on so we can help those who need instead of something that happened a while ago and has been explained numerous times.

> OK, so you have continually spammed the forums after being told by numerous people (including a moderator) why it was wrong, regardless of a direct rule forbiding this or not. You also said you were banned from the forums, which means they are tired of the spamming. But for the sake of trying to explain it to you one more time, here goes:
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> Earning of credits in the legal sense, falls under a “implied contract”. An implied contract, like payment for your job, means you will earn something in exchange for performing a task. In this case you earn credits for playing the game. An implied contract can easily be enforced if the majority of a population’s “common sense” agrees with the contract. This part also applies, while about 15k players were banned and reset, there are more than 700k players on any given day, meaning less than 2% (and actually it is much smaller as Reach sold millions of copies) knew AFKing would be wrong.
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> You were also told you agreed to Xbox terms of service and the exact information was put in a previous post, you used an exploit.
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> The last bit (and another big reason you need to stop posting here) is when you were reset Bungie had control, which means any information about your ban/reset is in the hands of Bungie, 343 had nothing to do with, I doubt they have any of the information from before the reset or all the data involved with the reset. This is like complaining at a new job your old boss still owed you money, the new boss can do nothing about (nor should they).
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> So please so spamming, accept it and move on so we can help those who need instead of something that happened a while ago and has been explained numerous times.

The new “boss” can fix the mistake. They can indeed do something about it, but they will not for no good reason. I would not like to engage in another flame war, so I will keep posting and stop replying to posts like these. Also, one Admin and The Little Moa are not “numerous users and a mod.” I would like some justification as to why I have not been given my credits back yet when I have proven my point numerous times.

I don’t think getting booted for betraying afk people shouldn’t be a considered a quit espically since I’m doing to people who like being afk and hate getting team killed

> The new “boss” can fix the mistake. They can indeed do something about it, but they will not for no good reason. I would not like to engage in another flame war, so I will keep posting and stop replying to posts like these. Also, one Admin and The Little Moa are not “numerous users and a mod.” I would like some justification as to why I have not been given my credits back yet when I have proven my point numerous times.

No mistake was made therefore there’s nothing to fix. There were warnings posted by Bungie that retribution was coming for those AFK’ing to credit boost. You have already admitted that you were AFK to boost credits on this very forum. If you want those credits back my suggestion to you would be to earn them like everyone else.

I Turned Xbox Live on when i was on Reach and i noticed all of my Daily Challenges were reset. Is this a bug?!? And will i get banned for Re-Doing them if i have already done them?

Sorry about the Post’s, I would like some More Information about the Bans :slight_smile:

> There were warnings posted by Bungie that retribution was coming for those AFK’ing to credit boost.

The only “warnings” I saw were posted after the resets. I never saw anything prior to that. I need you to please give me a link.