Why Did I Get Banned - The Official Thread

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> What is this thread talking about? All of the bans have been proven to be counterproductive and no one monitors them, which means innocent bans will not be reversed.
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> The mute ban was a joke that was proven to be easily abused in both the beta and the full game, and the beta feedback forum showed overwhelming consensus to remove the mute ban. But Bungie left it in anyways! LOL!!
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> The AFK ban was unnecessary, Bungie caused the AFKing in the first place with their terrible scoring system and it works on a flawed system that can easily ban members that don’t play well for a few games.
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> The quit ban is easily avoided and the flawed betrayal system promotes bad behavior to abuse the ban and target innocent players. Bungie also said they’d add a “sudden death” feature that would end games that are 4v1, 6v1, 8v2 etc early, but guess what? THEY NEVER DID! HAHA! Now we’re forced to stay in those lousy games where no one has fun. Besides, there’s no reason to punish quitters in the first place. The correct way to have dealt with quitters is by allowing them to play exactly the game they want. This isn’t 1999, we could easily play the games we want to play which would seriously reduce quitting. And the join in progress system would also help provided games that are almost over/too unfair were locked.
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> All these bans do is drive population away which increases search times and skews truskill to the awful point where it’s at now.
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> Bungie has proven to be incompetent.

Before you spout off about this, please understand Bungie is correct that the banhammer does not SIMPLY look at kills. Perpetuating this false premise will not make it true. Looking at any of these bans I see the same thing, the person who is generating the ban is getting killed in the spawn point. Before anyone claims “spawnkilling” it happens once in a while and it takes a REALLY good team with REALLY good teamwork to set up a spawn trap. Also generally rule of thumb for those who want to claim this, spawn traps only work in BTB and Grifball (Halo Ball Extreme in Action Sak), but are still easy to get out of.

Why do I know for a fact the Banhammer does not go simply by kills is I play A LOT of game with my 10 year old daughter who is not good at killing. If we play team slayer or a game of that nature she gets 0 or 1 kill nearly EVERY game. My daughter’s K/D is less than 0.40 and we have NEVER been banned.

As for mute ban I can not answer that one, but I know some many complaints will result in a ban. Some abuse it, but that is another issue and you can be banned in all Xbox games the same way.

Quit bans, hey 4v1 and 6v1, etc do not happen very often. You can afford a few quits now and then. I will not stay in those games especially if losers feel cool to T-bag while winning 4v1. If you are quiting often enough to get a ban or probation then you are quiting too much.

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> I keep getting quit banned for 10 minutes even though I’ve never quit a single game. I live in an area where the connection randomly drops roughly once every half hour but is otherwise fine. I have an open NAT and have tried many guides to stop the disconnecting, none of them have worked. Switching ISPs isn’t an option because there is only 1 available to me. I’m also not going to move to another area in real life since moving over some game’s multiplayer is silly.
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> I’m honestly not expecting anyone to stop these bans (how many people have ever been helped in this thread?) but I figure it’s worth a try. It’s annoying enough dropping out of games that I’m winning, it’s just another kick in the teeth to have to wait 10 minutes until I can search again.
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> Gamertag: That Laggy Noob

With you GT obviously you have issues with lag. Your internet connection is your responsibility and if it lags you out it counts as your quit. Now if you run the speed tests and it says it is fine, there is a simple fix many people can do to stop the lag, but too many people feel they should plug in and be fine.

You want better game play, there is a great post at Bungie.net about opening ports and your NAT. It is in the Reach Game Forum on the right side as a sticky called “Opening NAT for Dummies”. It lists step by step how to open ports, etc to maxmize your connection. It is a HUGE help to do it. Spend the 10 minutes and I bet your gaming experience improves dramatically, especially in Peer to Peer games like Halo.

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> i just wanna know why me and my friends got banned from earing credits. we were in our own lobby so as not to interfere with anyone else’s game. we were only goofing around, not boosting, not credit farming cuz we have no need to do these things. i enjoy playing halo and this is really annoying toput it nicely.

You and your friends were banned for being AFK. While you may have been in your own lobby to not interfere with anyone, the general thought of credits is earning them for time “played”, thus they have been banning people who want to boost credits by being AFK. If you want to “goof around” you can do it in customs with no risk of a ban.

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> Before you spout off about this, please understand Bungie is correct that the banhammer does not SIMPLY look at kills. Perpetuating this false premise will not make it true. Looking at any of these bans I see the same thing, the person who is generating the ban is getting killed in the spawn point. Before anyone claims “spawnkilling” it happens once in a while and it takes a REALLY good team with REALLY good teamwork to set up a spawn trap. Also generally rule of thumb for those who want to claim this, spawn traps only work in BTB and Grifball (Halo Ball Extreme in Action Sak), but are still easy to get out of.

This is false. The AFK ban goes off kills alone, this was proven with the account Banasaurus that was banned in eight games while getting assists, few deaths and moving CONSTANTLY. Stop trying to lie. Bungie themselves have never released the details on their banning system, unless you care to prove otherwise.

> Why do I know for a fact the Banhammer does not go simply by kills is I play A LOT of game with my 10 year old daughter who is not good at killing. If we play team slayer or a game of that nature she gets 0 or 1 kill nearly EVERY game. My daughter’s K/D is less than 0.40 and we have NEVER been banned.

This is not proof, the banhammer is a lousy one and MANY AFKers never receive a ban. Just because it hasn’t hit you personally doesn’t mean it can’t.

> Quit bans, hey 4v1 and 6v1, etc do not happen very often. You can afford a few quits now and then. I will not stay in those games especially if losers feel cool to T-bag while winning 4v1. If you are quiting often enough to get a ban or probation then you are quiting too much.

It can take as little as two quits to get on probation and at that point you might as well stop playing for three days because you’re almost guaranteed to have some idiot force you to betray them and the terrible boot system will kick you out and ban you. You can make someone betray you simply by evading into moving vehicles that have poor physics or standing on a wraith/tank/falcon/chain hog/gauss hog.

It’s still not worth driving the population away with bans when there are far superior solutions. This isn’t 1999, it’s time to start updating the game.

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> Dude seriously, you just seem like some kid that got banned for doing something you knew was wrong but didit anyhow.

Already wrong, I’ve never been banned. I’ve avoided the quit ban at least 100 times, though.

> And after you got banned you blame it on a banning system credit system or whatever. It’s your own fault, just like in real life if someone leaves their car doors unlocked and you steal their stuff it isn’t their fault that your a thief.

Yet we have locks on car doors and should use them to strengthen security. And the police aren’t paying thieves to break in car windows only to arrest them after, your analogy is a poor one. By the way, analogies should never be used because they can be twisted anyway to fit an argument. I recommend you stop using them.

> Honestly you should already know complaining about Bungie isn’t going to help since they have nothing to do with the games anymore.

Believe me, I know. They have made that QUITE clear when their moderators openly admitted no one was monitoring the bans that were poor from the start and only cause more harm than what it solves.

> And it’s a COMPUTER PROGRAM that bans people, not an actual person, it’s goes off of given stats that start with patterns, like having consecutive games with no kills, and then it moves from there.

You just explained EXACTLY why the ban is poor and will harm innocent people that won’t get unbanned! LOL! Are you trying to lose for me? You’re making this way too easy.

> Nobody has enough money it would take to pay people to monitor all games played and check all players and make sure they aren’t being bad.

Which is why they should have had an actual solution to the problem THEY CAUSED from the beginning with their outdated game and sloppy systems they implement instead of harming innocent players even more.

The fact is their were far superior solutions than counterproductive bans that are easily avoidable, harm innocent players and burden us all with longer search times and lower population.

Bungie failed to implement the “sudden death” feature to end unbalanced games early so you’re either stuck in 8v1 or subjected to a quit ban.

Though, here’s an easy solution to avoid the quit ban if a terrible map/gametype is selected. Sign out in the lobby before the game begins, it will put you right back in the matchmaking lobby and literally takes ten seconds before you can search for a new game. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DASHBOARD QUIT!

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hi my name oscar this is my gamertag OSCAR OBAMA. everytime i try to matchmakiong its says this load failure and then random kick me out of matches. icon pops up then say information about temp ban. then my gamertag starts to flashing then i am unable to join games this is serious. and would like the issue to be resolved. i have talk to xbox and microsoft about my conection and account. then they gave me this link. this issue is for halo reach online gaming. please fix this. i never quit any online games check my status.

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> hi my name oscar this is my gamertag OSCAR OBAMA. everytime i try to matchmakiong its says this load failure and then random kick me out of matches. icon pops up then say information about temp ban. then my gamertag starts to flashing then i am unable to join games this is serious. and would like the issue to be resolved. i have talk to xbox and microsoft about my conection and account. then they gave me this link. this issue is for halo reach online gaming. please fix this. i never quit any online games check my status.

Check your disc and make sure it isn’t scratched. That happened to me. Also try downloading the game to your hard drive. If it doesn’t download its your disc. Load failures count as quits

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thanks but when my ban is over?

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> thanks but when my ban is over?

Depends on how many times you’ve been banned before.1st time is normally 24hrs. After that it can be anywhere from 2 days to 2 weeks

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Hi, I have no idea why I have been banned, the only thing I did was to have played for 5 hours halo ce anniversary … when I turned off the console for lunch … I came back, and when the game started, this said … “your console has been excluded from credits” … and it’s been 3 days and has not removed the ban, and all you’ve done is play without cheating, no hack, no afk …

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It is confirmed that you will be unbanned in 32 hrs.

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> Hi, I have no idea why I have been banned, the only thing I did was to have played for 5 hours halo ce anniversary … when I turned off the console for lunch … I came back, and when the game started, this said … “your console has been excluded from credits” … and it’s been 3 days and has not removed the ban, and all you’ve done is play without cheating, no hack, no afk …

You have many games where you get 0 kills, so your ban is 24h long.

http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/gamestats.aspx?gameid=895305957&player=ChronoCrosserge

http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/gamestats.aspx?gameid=895313867&player=ChronoCrosserge

http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/gamestats.aspx?gameid=895319825&player=ChronoCrosserge

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ok number 1 what does afk mean cuz i have no idea. number 2 we have been banned for almost 48 hours now, how long is this gonna last

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> ok number 1 what does afk mean cuz i have no idea. number 2 we have been banned for almost 48 hours now, how long is this gonna last

AFK= Away From Keyboard/Controler aka getting 0 kills. Seems to me you are on your 2nd ban so it’s 2 weeks long

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ok that im sorry to say is b.s. this did happen to me b-4 and that ban lasted a week

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is there any way to dispute the ban? because i feel my friends and i were unjustly banned and i want it reversed now

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> is there any way to dispute the ban? because i feel my friends and i were unjustly banned and i want it reversed now

You weren’t unjustly banned, you were in regular matchmaking with guest controllers getting 0 kills. You should have done customs since you were " goofing " around.

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well im sorry but i believe it to be unjust for the simple fact that my friends and i cant play against each other and goof around without being banned but yet its ok for -Yoink!- people to play grifball and spawn trap the enemy team repeatedly and nothing happens to them. if people are gonna get banned for -Yoink- they should at least be given a warning first and if your gonna ban some people for stupid -Yoink- than everyone should get banned for -Yoink!- -Yoink- that they do.

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I’m not really sure what i need to do but i’m really hoping maybe someone could help me! I got on xbox live for halo reach to play matchmaking only to find that i’ve been banned from earning credits! Could someone please explain why this has happened? I know during the morning time i let my 4 year old and 3 year old son play while i was trying to get some things done and then i get on later to find out i’m banned. I’ve went on bungie and reviewed the last played games and i’m really not seeing what they could have did to get me banned from earning credits. Please someone help me!!

Thanks!!
Would greatly appreciate the help!

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> I’m not really sure what i need to do but i’m really hoping maybe someone could help me! I got on xbox live for halo reach to play matchmaking only to find that i’ve been banned from earning credits! Could someone please explain why this has happened? I know during the morning time i let my 4 year old and 3 year old son play while i was trying to get some things done and then i get on later to find out i’m banned. I’ve went on bungie and reviewed the last played games and i’m really not seeing what they could have did to get me banned from earning credits. Please someone help me!!
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> Thanks!!
> Would greatly appreciate the help!

They got 0 kills while playing, so your ban is 24h long.