Why Did I Get Banned - The Official Thread

> > > > Ok, so I was playing tonight with my girlfriend. She is pretty new to Halo Reach, and pretty much sucks at it. She doesn’t get a lot of kills. So, all of a sudden, during the middle of a game, both of us get a message that says that we are temporarily banned from earning credits. I have never done anything wrong in Halo reach. I am a decent/slightly above average player and should not be banned from earning credits. I just started playing Reach again so I could level myself up (started at Warrant Officer). Then I created an Xbox live account for my girlfriend so she could play games with me or when she is home by herself. She has never played an FPS and so she is not very good, sometimes ending up with 0 kills. However, I don’t believe that she should be banned for being bad at the game. And I shouldn’t be banned for being OK at the game. I am very annoyed and irritated about this. What should I do? Should I email 343i?
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> > > Take her into custom games for practice until she gets better. No kills on a team matched with other players expecting support, negatively impacts the experience of others. As such it is a cR ban.
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> > So basically what you are saying is if you are bad at Reach, you will get banned. I understand how she got looped into this as it is a good system to pick out the AFKers, but when you are bad, but want to play with your friends, the system will then ban you?
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> > I think they need to bring back Social Slayer where there are no ranks/you get no ranks for playing in it. That way it can be more noob-friendly.
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> There is no way that she was banned for not getting kills. The system can tell the difference between moving around and not getting kills, and AFKing. Finally, i post this which is from Total Selout as to when the ban applies.
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> > Bans are only handed out after a well documented digital case is built up by our backend system. If you are doing naughty things the banhammer will find you and it leaves an easy to read record.
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> > No. Like it says above, our automated system builds up a digital case of wrongdoing before any ban is enacted. If you accidentally disconnect a time or two you won’t get banned. Instead the system looks for patterns that can’t happen accidentally. If the banhammer detects enough wrongdoing, you were doing wrong. Case closed.

There is only one problem with that though…I have never cheated at Halo. Never have, never will. I don’t quit games. I don’t AFK (in fact a few weeks ago I didn’t even know what the term AFK was or referred to). All I know is that my girlfriend sucks at Halo. I was looking through the recent games that she played, and she did end up with a lot of 0 kill games. So maybe this “banhammer” isn’t completely accurate. And we got the message during the middle of a game of infection. We played SWAT and then Infection, and she didn’t really get any kills in them because she has never played them before. So are you sure that the banhammer is always right?

TBH I’m kinda thinking of picking up MW3 just so we don’t get banned from playing because she is a noob.

> There is only one problem with that though…I have never cheated at Halo. Never have, never will. I don’t quit games. I don’t AFK (in fact a few weeks ago I didn’t even know what the term AFK was or referred to). All I know is that my girlfriend sucks at Halo. I was looking through the recent games that she played, and she did end up with a lot of 0 kill games. So maybe this “banhammer” isn’t completely accurate. And we got the message during the middle of a game of infection. We played SWAT and then Infection, and she didn’t really get any kills in them because she has never played them before. So are you sure that the banhammer is always right?
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> TBH I’m kinda thinking of picking up MW3 just so we don’t get banned from playing because she is a noob.

Personally i believe that it is 100% accurate, as i have sometimes guests who don’t know how to play a game, move inside the maps and many times get 0 kills. But i have never had a ban. So, my personal opinion is that getting 0 kills is not going to ban you. But that’s just only an opinion i can’t be 100% sure.I don’t know how this thing works! Btw, you can pick up MW3 it’s a great game :stuck_out_tongue: played it on PS3…

i am mute banned and have been for over 2 weeks. Bungie please fix this as I am a member for over 6 years and have done nothing wrong. I am automatically muted everytime I play Reach. Please reverse this ASAP. MY gamertag is DesiCowboy

> i am mute banned and have been for over 2 weeks. Bungie please fix this as I am a member for over 6 years and have done nothing wrong. I am automatically muted everytime I play Reach. Please reverse this ASAP. MY gamertag is DesiCowboy

It’s 343 Industries not Bungie.

Ok I have been credit banned for 4 days now. When is it going to end/be lifted? The offence is boosting achievements with guests I believe.

> Man you guys need to adjust the ban system a little I AFk Guest boosted for acheivments right and my friend who helped me who has been baned before gets 1 day ban only! I my first offence get 2 weeks! Now i know i did wrong and I’m not saying I don’t deserve the ban I am saying he deserves more atleast! He does this stuff way more then me just those acheviments are so damn hard! So im wondering why you banned SelectedHunter for a day and me 2 weeks jerk laughs at me for getting banned so long…

Same thing happened to me. My friend only got 6 hours and I have been banned from credits for 4 days now!

> So basically what you are saying is if you are bad at Reach, you will get banned. I understand how she got looped into this as it is a good system to pick out the AFKers, but when you are bad, but want to play with your friends, the system will then ban you?
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> I think they need to bring back Social Slayer where there are no ranks/you get no ranks for playing in it. That way it can be more noob-friendly.

OH DEAR GOD YES! And put all the short-bus-riders(split-screeners) in there like in Halo 3.

> i am mute banned and have been for over 2 weeks. Bungie please fix this as I am a member for over 6 years and have done nothing wrong. I am automatically muted everytime I play Reach. Please reverse this ASAP. MY gamertag is DesiCowboy

Near as I can tell you get “perma-muted” when you get muted a lot for A:)Being an annoying tw@t/squeaker, B:) Being an rude/obnoxious a-hole, or C:) “MIC SPAM”. So maybe you deserve it? Pretty much comes down to what other people think of you and not so much what you believe yourself to be.

Yesterday found out about the terminal’s and accessing them through Waypoint…did all 10 terminals and received cR for them, then went into Reach and played quite awhile last night. I finally quit playing and came into the other room to hop onto my computer, but 30 minutes later when I returned to the 360, it said I was credit banned? I don’t see how this is possible as I have done nothing wrong, at least to my knowledge. I do have a glitchy router that does affect games every now and then, but none to my knowledge yesterday… I’m just curious as to what I have done so apparently I can keep from doing it again…lol!

> Yesterday found out about the terminal’s and accessing them through Waypoint…did all 10 terminals and received cR for them, then went into Reach and played quite awhile last night. I finally quit playing and came into the other room to hop onto my computer, but 30 minutes later when I returned to the 360, it said I was credit banned? I don’t see how this is possible as I have done nothing wrong, at least to my knowledge. I do have a glitchy router that does affect games every now and then, but none to my knowledge yesterday… I’m just curious as to what I have done so apparently I can keep from doing it again…lol!

That guest controller you signed in to be idle. That will usually do the trick. That is boosting and has been bannable for awhile now.

I was banned for a 60 min test I did in FF doubles for starting a game killing a vehicle then quitting. There needs somewhere that lists all the possible bans. Other than those 60 mins of FF double my FF history is just about perfect. At least 100+ kills in every game. Will you guys lift the ban today? I am working toward Onyx for my last two FF commendations. I always follow your guys rules once I know what they are. Please.

TYSHY4

> I was banned for a 60 min test I did in FF doubles for starting a game killing a vehicle then quitting. There needs somewhere that lists all the possible bans. Other than those 60 mins of FF double <mark>my FF history is just about perfect.</mark> At least 100+ kills in every game. Will you guys lift the ban today? I am working toward Onyx for my last two FF commendations. I always follow your guys rules once I know what they are. Please.
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Cough

This post has been edited by a Moderator: Stat flaming is not allowed.

TYSHY4, you seem a little pissed that i discovered that you lie in your post. In fact, you lied multiple times as you have created multiple times a thread for you bans. But except all these, you also miss the point of the forum. The forum is to help you discover why you are banned. You come here, lie for what you did. I told you that you lied and then what? You tell me that i have 1.35 k/d? So what? 82% comm progress?? Sorry for not AFKing in firefight just to have 100% commendation proggress…And what? I am a Reclaimer? OOO i should never answer to your post…only inheritors can…because when you are an inheritor you know how to AFK…

I wanted to talk to someone in regards to a temporary ban for quitting to much? I received the temporary ban right around the Microsoft live update. I don’t know about anyone else, yet I tried to connect right after the update more then a few times. Got to match making then never got to play. The sever booted me before the game even started. I didn’t even quit, then just today. Due to a match making error, match making was aborted. I just finished a game, and didn’t even get a chance to do anything when this message was displayed, which resulted in another 10 mins. ITts just a pan in the -Yoink-, if you want to look into how many games I quit in the past, or anything like that to compare or to check my quits. So I can get this lifted? I really don’t know if this is possible. However Xbox live says takes it to the developers. Then give the bungie website. So I just came here instead and posted. If nothing can be done, can you inform me of how long this will take? I know two times today, it said I quit, when I never did.

To be fair, I did Y out of a few games when I was achievement hunting. However that would have been about 4 maybe 5 at most. They were living dead games mostly, so I wasn’t hurting a team, so that’s why I did it. There is one in there, when I forgot to log out my guest controller so I quit, so it didn’t look like I was boosting.

Edited by a moderator. Please do not flame or attack other members.

> I was banned for a 60 min test I did in FF doubles for starting a game killing a vehicle then quitting. There needs somewhere that lists all the possible bans. Other than those 60 mins of FF double my FF history is just about perfect. At least 100+ kills in every game. Will you guys lift the ban today? I am working toward Onyx for my last two FF commendations. I always follow your guys rules once I know what they are. Please.
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I am not trying to start a flame way (you and another poster have that under control) and I am only adding my two cents to what I see regarding your potential ban.

You do say your history is pretty spotless, you do have a lot of quits in your history just in the first couple pages. Now looking at these I can speculate on one of two things. You quit a lot since you do not like the map or who you are playing with. The only thing is you do not quit the same map over and over, you play them all pretty regularly. So there may be a legtimate reason, but as mentioned you have a lot of DNF in your FF history.

The other potential explanantion and I have seen many people do this before to avoid the AFK ban is dashboard out at the end of the game when it shows the credits on the bottom left of the screen but prior to going to the credit screen. This will register as a DNF, but the player still gets the credits.

I know when Bungie swept through on the AFK bans in April it got of people for doing the same thing. I am not saying you are doing this, but your history does look suspect from a certain point of view. AFKing for credits for you is pointless as you are an Iheritor already, the only reason would be to up you perfect rounds.

You just have to understand from a community point of view a lot of claims of innocence are made on the forums, but not always true, so those that may be honest get very little benefit of the doubt. The only suggestion I would make instead of resorting to flaming, truly state your case. But be careful with absolute statement like “my history is just about perfect” as you will be under a microscope at that point.

Again just my two cents, and I know my stats suck.

Thank you for the respectful post. I have all the DNF because the vehicle thing I was trying. Other than those 30 or so games I am clean. When I play I run into AFKers all night long, often the same people. I even have there names writen down. I just feel like 343 should think about banning people who deserve it. I have two get around 200 kills every game to get all 3 of my perfectionist comms. I sent a message to one of the employees asking if the method I tried was okay but never got a response. I tried it, 60 mins of FF and about 30 games which resulted in my second ban in three days, and I still don’t know what the one the other day was for. 343 could save a lot of time by making a document of the code the system uses. I wasn’t sure if that was boosting so I tried it.

I am at university and play halo reach. i have never to my recollection rage quit. hence my terrible k/d. i am at uni and have to bridge my connection via connectify yet every so often, despite an open nat and “good” bandwidth, i get dropped from matches. i am now banned everytime i drop and am very frustrated and to my awareness i am not lagging either. any way to either stop the bans or fix the dropping error? (gt Babarussi)

> > Yesterday found out about the terminal’s and accessing them through Waypoint…did all 10 terminals and received cR for them, then went into Reach and played quite awhile last night. I finally quit playing and came into the other room to hop onto my computer, but 30 minutes later when I returned to the 360, it said I was credit banned? I don’t see how this is possible as I have done nothing wrong, at least to my knowledge. I do have a glitchy router that does affect games every now and then, but none to my knowledge yesterday… I’m just curious as to what I have done so apparently I can keep from doing it again…lol!
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> That guest controller you signed in to be idle. That will usually do the trick. That is boosting and has been bannable for awhile now.

Okay, guess that’s somewhat understandable…any idea how long the ban will be for? Finding it pretty ridiculous to be banned for more than 24 hours (Which it has been) for something as simple as having an idle guest controller…lol!