Why Did I Get Banned - The Official Thread

I know how you feel

like I rarely play halo reach and when I do the games go smoothly and perfectly. But all it takes is one lag in my network and all the players quit. Then try again and it’s fine. But every time it does that now I’ve got a temporary pan and it’s so frustrating. Cause you never know when the internet will stop for a second.
I’ve played all week and no issues. How after a couple of days of lagging I’ve got a ban. It’s unfair

I was enough to never get banned. All my friends were getting banned left from right but I never have been, thank goodness!

A couple days ago, I was given an ingame message about how I was credit banned for 24 hours. I have no idea what I did wrong exactly, but I read a few times that people getting 0 kills counted as credit boosting and that caused them the credit banned? If that’s the case, lemme tell ya something. First off, the only game mode I play is Team Snipers. Usually with one or two of my brothers, but mainly on my own. Second, for each game of Team Snipers I play, I get at least 20+ kills EACH game. So I’m not “credit boosting” by getting 0 kills and staying afk. Thirdly, one of my brothers happens to be 5 years old and plays as a guest of mine. He’s the one that gets 0 kills. If that’s the cause of my credit ban, than that’s painfully unjust. If not, can someone explain to me as to why I got credit banned that day?

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> A couple days ago, I was given an ingame message about how I was credit banned for 24 hours. I have no idea what I did wrong exactly, but I read a few times that people getting 0 kills counted as credit boosting and that caused them the credit banned? If that’s the case, lemme tell ya something. First off, the only game mode I play is Team Snipers. Usually with one or two of my brothers, but mainly on my own. Second, for each game of Team Snipers I play, I get at least 20+ kills EACH game. So I’m not “credit boosting” by getting 0 kills and staying afk. Thirdly, one of my brothers happens to be 5 years old and plays as a guest of mine. He’s the one that gets 0 kills. If that’s the cause of my credit ban, than that’s painfully unjust. If not, can someone explain to me as to why I got credit banned that day?

Unfortunately, your brother using a guest account is indeed the cause of the ban due to him getting games with 0 kills in matchmaking. Bungie implemented this as part of their banhammer to prevent people from using multiple idle accounts repeatibly to set up boosting grounds as well as ruining the gameplay experience of others by having idle guests intentionally present.

Basically, if a guest account gets 0 kills due to this, it counts against the main account the guest is linked to and the main account gets the DNF penalty. It’s not unjust at all, it was Bungie’s way of making sure people with multiple controllers were not violating Code of Conduct by cheating in matchmaking as well as making sure those players were not ruining the gameplay experience for others. Imagine if you were to enter a Slayer game and you were to see -Name, -Name(1), -Name(2), and -Name(3) as a party and when you got into the game, -Name was playing, but -Name(1), -Name(2), and -Name(3) idled the entire game. Now if you wanted to seriously play in this scenario, you would feel cheated of your gameplay and rightfully so, which is the reason why Bungie did this.

Another example were to be, let’s say name had this set up as his team as mentioned above, and -Name was with three friends, Let’s use -Jimmy, -Ralph, and -John as his friends. You join this party of seven for a good game of slayer when you find out -Name, -Jimmy, -Ralph, and -John were hosting a boosting party using -Name’s guest accounts. You wanted to play Slayer, but these guys did not, so these guys would become passive agressive by -Jimmy, -Ralph, and -John intentionally knocking out your shields while -Name gets the kill on you everytime. And then it turns out -Name had friends over, so he has his friends take control of the guest accounts and kill you with them too. Basically Bungie was preventing boosting parties, cheating, and hazing of players who would come into said parties and want to play normally by doing this and in doing so holding up Code of Conduct as well.

Sadly, there are inexperienced players who get the banhammer because of this, or in this case you due your younger brother using your guest account and not getting any kills. Unfortunately, you will have to wait out your cR ban. May I recommend playing Firefight Matchmaking if you’re going to play online with your younger brother? It would allow him to get a better feel for Reach while you two can have fun, get kills, and not get cR banned at the same time.

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> > A couple days ago, I was given an ingame message about how I was credit banned for 24 hours. I have no idea what I did wrong exactly, but I read a few times that people getting 0 kills counted as credit boosting and that caused them the credit banned? If that’s the case, lemme tell ya something. First off, the only game mode I play is Team Snipers. Usually with one or two of my brothers, but mainly on my own. Second, for each game of Team Snipers I play, I get at least 20+ kills EACH game. So I’m not “credit boosting” by getting 0 kills and staying afk. Thirdly, one of my brothers happens to be 5 years old and plays as a guest of mine. He’s the one that gets 0 kills. If that’s the cause of my credit ban, than that’s painfully unjust. If not, can someone explain to me as to why I got credit banned that day?
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> Unfortunately, your brother using a guest account is indeed the cause of the ban due to him getting games with 0 kills in matchmaking. Bungie implemented this as part of their banhammer to prevent people from using multiple idle accounts repeatibly to set up boosting grounds as well as ruining the gameplay experience of others by having idle guests intentionally present.
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> Basically, if a guest account gets 0 kills due to this, it counts against the main account the guest is linked to and the main account gets the DNF penalty. It’s not unjust at all, it was Bungie’s way of making sure people with multiple controllers were not violating Code of Conduct by cheating in matchmaking as well as making sure those players were not ruining the gameplay experience for others. Imagine if you were to enter a Slayer game and you were to see -Name, -Name(1), -Name(2), and -Name(3) as a party and when you got into the game, -Name was playing, but -Name(1), -Name(2), and -Name(3) idled the entire game. Now if you wanted to seriously play in this scenario, you would feel cheated of your gameplay and rightfully so, which is the reason why Bungie did this.
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> Another example were to be, let’s say name had this set up as his team as mentioned above, and -Name was with three friends, Let’s use -Jimmy, -Ralph, and -John as his friends. You join this party of seven for a good game of slayer when you find out -Name, -Jimmy, -Ralph, and -John were hosting a boosting party using -Name’s guest accounts. You wanted to play Slayer, but these guys did not, so these guys would become passive agressive by -Jimmy, -Ralph, and -John intentionally knocking out your shields while -Name gets the kill on you everytime. And then it turns out -Name had friends over, so he has his friends take control of the guest accounts and kill you with them too. Basically Bungie was preventing boosting parties, cheating, and hazing of players who would come into said parties and want to play normally by doing this and in doing so holding up Code of Conduct as well.
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> Sadly, there are inexperienced players who get the banhammer because of this, or in this case you due your younger brother using your guest account and not getting any kills. Unfortunately, you will have to wait out your cR ban. May I recommend playing Firefight Matchmaking if you’re going to play online with your younger brother? It would allow him to get a better feel for Reach while you two can have fun, get kills, and not get cR banned at the same time.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the quick reply and answering my question. I still have a few problems. Firefight matchmaking has always been laggy and slow for me. Plus the population for this mode is mainly low in numbers. Also, I’d play Custom Games with him, but I really want to earn Credits faster so that I can reach the rank of Inheritor before they “turn off” Reach’s Servers permanently (which is something I fear). Custom Games give me a few credits at most compared to the thousands on competitive matchmaking. Now the thing I don’t understand is why did Bungie make it possible to have a huge party of 7 in a Team Snipers mode in the first place? Why not limit it to 4 players (including you). That would’ve solved some problems. Heck, there’s always that one party with a total of 6-7 players. It always bothers me to know that the other team has friends on my side. I know that they can’t really do anything about it now, but if they’ve limited the amount of people to 4. Those issues wouldn’t have been a problem. Also, it kind of ruins the experience for myself as I love it when my younger brothers love to join me in a game of snipers. It’s one of the ways we bond. Also, he’s not really idle as he moves a lot and follows me around, he just doesn’t get kills and gets assists at most. Eh, just saying my piece. Anyways, I’ll try looking into playing Firefight when my lil baby brother wants to join in. Good thing I mainly play on my own though, Halo Reach + Team Snipers is my life and I strive to dominate in it lol. Thanks again. :slight_smile:

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> Ah, I see. Thanks for the quick reply and answering my question. I still have a few problems. Firefight matchmaking has always been laggy and slow for me. Plus the population for this mode is mainly low in numbers. Also, I’d play Custom Games with him, but I really want to earn Credits faster so that I can reach the rank of Inheritor before they “turn off” Reach’s Servers permanently (which is something I fear). Custom Games give me a few credits at most compared to the thousands on competitive matchmaking. Now the thing I don’t understand is why did Bungie make it possible to have a huge party of 7 in a Team Snipers mode in the first place? Why not limit it to 4 players (including you). That would’ve solved some problems. Heck, there’s always that one party with a total of 6-7 players. It always bothers me to know that the other team has friends on my side. I know that they can’t really do anything about it now, but if they’ve limited the amount of people to 4. Those issues wouldn’t have been a problem. Also, it kind of ruins the experience for myself as I love it when my younger brothers love to join me in a game of snipers. It’s one of the ways we bond. Also, he’s not really idle as he moves a lot and follows me around, he just doesn’t get kills and gets assists at most. Eh, just saying my piece. Anyways, I’ll try looking into playing Firefight when my lil baby brother wants to join in. Good thing I mainly play on my own though, Halo Reach + Team Snipers is my life and I strive to dominate in it lol. Thanks again. :slight_smile:

I know the way you feel on how 343i who is now in control of the franchise can fix these issues with an update, but won’t. Look at how badly Grifball is abused these days on Reach for example and it can be fixed. 343i however seems to keep their priorities on the newer games, so stuff doesn’t get fixed as it should.

If it would help you out, if you have the Anniversary Map pack, play Firefight Arcade in that playlist with your younger brother, but set the search settings to the strictest. When doing so, 90% of the time, no other players will join so it will be just you and your brother on Installation 04. Now just choose the game variant you want in the voting and have fun while racking up cR and sharing quality time with your brother at the same time.

Today I was playing matchmaking when I got messages about temporarily being credit banned. I was playing Grifball and team snipers. Why was I banned, for not getting kills or being afk for a couple minutes?

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> Today I was playing matchmaking when I got messages about temporarily being credit banned. I was playing Grifball and team snipers. Why was I banned, for not getting kills or being afk for a couple minutes?

Good morning.

I looked through your Halo: Reach game history. You recieved a temporary cR ban for a combination of having multiple games with 0 kills as well as performing ‘Peace Games’ in Grifball. As I stated with other players, the automated banhammer treats matchmaking games with 0 kills as AFC/AFKing(Away from controller/idling) and keeps track of that, treating it as DNF (Did not Finish). If a threshold of DNF games is reached or too many games with DNF is achieved within a short duration, the automated banhammer will issue a temporary ban.

As for the ‘Peace Games’, these violate LIVE Code of Conduct, as you are exploiting a gametype in a fashion not intended by the developer as well as the Performance Bonus System to boost cR. Boosting is a form of Cheating and hence violates Code of Conduct. ‘Peace Games’ also griefs the matckmaking game for those who want to play Grifball as intended by the developer, ruining the online gameplay experience for them and deteriorating the quality of LIVE Services, which also violates LIVE Code of Conduct. I seen a good handful of games in your game history with 17+ minutes, which is a clear indicator you were performing peace games and were likely reported by players who wanted to legitimately play the game.

So with that said, it is hard to say if your temporary cR ban was issued by the automated banhammer or manually issued, but there is enough cause here to see your ban is justified and you will just have to wait it out.

Hope that helps and have a nice day now.

I just recently got cr banned too and I was wondering why and how long it would last

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> I just recently got cr banned too and I was wondering why and how long it would last

I’m surprised, the first person to comment in awhile about getting banned who doesn’t have any grifball games in their recent game history. I’m assuming you hit the daily credit cap which probably temp cr banned you.

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> > I just recently got cr banned too and I was wondering why and how long it would last
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> I’m surprised, the first person to comment in awhile about getting banned who doesn’t have any grifball games in their recent game history. I’m assuming you hit the daily credit cap which probably temp cr banned you.

He hit the cR cap. He only had one matchmaking game in his recent history that he did not finish and he has kills in each of his matchmaking games, plus no Grifball games or Idling guest accounts.

I recently recieved a temporary ban for being afk in too many matches (I fell asleep while in a firefight lobby). I was wondering if theres any way of knowing how long this ban will last. I’m assuming I recieved the ban around 2am pst saturday morning (up late to take pain medication for wisdom teeth). I understand why I recieved this ban, simply wondering if I will be able to recieve credits anytime soon. I know I have recieved a temp credit ban in the past but that was back in 2012 I’m pretty sure, thanks for the help!

I got temporarily banned from earning credits, I looked into it and apparently it’s because I was repeatedly getting 0 kills and the game concluded this was me being afk, I was no actually going afk, I was playing grifball and neither the enemy team or my team would let me earn kills and if I tried I would just be spawntrapped. It’s not my fault people boost in all grifball lobbies now so why should I be banned for it. Anyway to fix this because I really don’t want to have to wait for something I didn’t even do

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> I got temporarily banned from earning credits, I looked into it and apparently it’s because I was repeatedly getting 0 kills and the game concluded this was me being afk, I was no actually going afk, I was playing grifball and neither the enemy team or my team would let me earn kills and if I tried I would just be spawntrapped. It’s not my fault people boost in all grifball lobbies now so why should I be banned for it. Anyway to fix this because I really don’t want to have to wait for something I didn’t even do

I have actually commented on the boosting aspect of Grifball, which is garbage if you ask me as people boosting in any manner does indeed violate Code of Conduct, and from what I have said in some instances grief the game and ruin the gameplay experience and quality of LIVE’s services for others. It looks like that is what happened in your case, your games were griefed by boosters, or should I say Cheaters for that matter.

The reason why you are banned however partially is due to the way the banhammer is programmed. 0 Kills in the eyes of the automated banhammer is considered as a Did Not Finish/DNF due to it being considered as AFC/AFKing (Away from Controller/Idling) and is kept track of. If you hit a certain threshold of DNFs or earn too many in a short duration, the automated banhammer will issue a ban.

On a more technical level however, in intentionally idling to prevent yourself from being killed in Grifball games, you theoretically are feeding the cheaters’ habits and by Code of Conduct’s definition 'Intentionally playing with someone who is using unauthorized software or methods’ and due to that, your ban is actually justified. I can go as far to even say that in doing that and remaining in the game, you are boosting because you are performing ‘Peace Games’ in doing what you are doing and in doing that, cheating, and due to these facts, you will have to wait out your ban.

This is what I can recommend considering that it sounds like you want to play some legit grifball in Reach. You can find a more respectable grifball community here (Click Meh!). If you should choose to find other Grifball players, go there and get a party of 8 and go into some Grifball matchmaking. The people there are dedicated to playing Grifball and playing it properly, and alot of them are really good at it. You might learn some new tricks from some of the people there too.

Hope this helps and have a nice day now.

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> > I got temporarily banned from earning credits, I looked into it and apparently it’s because I was repeatedly getting 0 kills and the game concluded this was me being afk, I was no actually going afk, I was playing grifball and neither the enemy team or my team would let me earn kills and if I tried I would just be spawntrapped. It’s not my fault people boost in all grifball lobbies now so why should I be banned for it. Anyway to fix this because I really don’t want to have to wait for something I didn’t even do
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> I have actually commented on the boosting aspect of Grifball, which is garbage if you ask me as people boosting in any manner does indeed violate Code of Conduct, and from what I have said in some instances grief the game and ruin the gameplay experience and quality of LIVE’s services for others. It looks like that is what happened in your case, your games were griefed by boosters, or should I say Cheaters for that matter.
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> The reason why you are banned however partially is due to the way the banhammer is programmed. 0 Kills in the eyes of the automated banhammer is considered as a Did Not Finish/DNF due to it being considered as AFC/AFKing (Away from Controller/Idling) and is kept track of. If you hit a certain threshold of DNFs or earn too many in a short duration, the automated banhammer will issue a ban.
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> On a more technical level however, in intentionally idling to prevent yourself from being killed in Grifball games, you theoretically are feeding the cheaters’ habits and by Code of Conduct’s definition 'Intentionally playing with someone who is using unauthorized software or methods’ and due to that, your ban is actually justified. I can go as far to even say that in doing that and remaining in the game, you are boosting because you are performing ‘Peace Games’ in doing what you are doing and in doing that, cheating, and due to these facts, you will have to wait out your ban.
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> This is what I can recommend considering that it sounds like you want to play some legit grifball in Reach. You can find a more respectable grifball community here (Click Meh!). If you should choose to find other Grifball players, go there and get a party of 8 and go into some Grifball matchmaking. The people there are dedicated to playing Grifball and playing it properly, and alot of them are really good at it. You might learn some new tricks from some of the people there too.
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> Hope this helps and have a nice day now.

Thank you, it’s just a number that I have to wait for this ban to be lifted

i got temporarily banned from earning credits on friday night I’ve been told that a first offence is 24 hours help would be amazing missing the game already

Yesterday I was playing matchmaking in halo reach and out of nowhere I got out of the game and I got a message which said console is ah Been excluded from playing halo reach online and then one that desia is counted ah Been excluded from playing Halo reach in line which makes me something unfair since I did not do something so this will cause the matchmaking bank in my console and profile and demand that I be disbanded

So I got banned from being able to upload to the fileshare system.All I did was delete a file as it was being uploaded, which might have caused the ban. I’m so angry and sad, could I please get unbanned because I swear I was unjustly banned!!

Yesterday I was playing matchmaking in halo reach and out of nowhere I got out of the game and I got a message which said console is ah Been excluded from playing halo reach online and then one that desia is counted ah Been excluded from playing Halo reach in line which makes me something unfair since I did not do something so this will cause the matchmaking bank in my console and profile and demand that I be disbanded

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> Yesterday I was playing matchmaking in halo reach and out of nowhere I got out of the game and I got a message which said console is ah Been excluded from playing halo reach online and then one that desia is counted ah Been excluded from playing Halo reach in line which makes me something unfair since I did not do something so this will cause the matchmaking bank in my console and profile and demand that I be disbanded

Good evening.

I took a look through your Halo: Reach game history, and after looking through it, I have one question to ask. You didn’t do any modding of any aspect of your Xbox 360/Xbox One, especially to your Halo: Reach achievements, did you? I am asking as one, your game history seems clean with nothing that on it’s own would point to a console ban, however, your Halo: Reach achievements here on Waypoint are not being shown. I can view mine and anybody else I can think of, but not yours, which is kind of fishy. Also permanent console bans do not happen on their own without cause.