Why Did I Get Banned - The Official Thread

But you did insult me by telling me to not start games I won’t finish.

I know the reasons are irrelevant, I didn’t come here to complain that I shouldn’t be banned (where did you ever read that? :S). I just wanted (and still want) to know how a few quit bans occured right after a game I did finish instead of after me actually quitting or being booted.

If I am on probation and I want to quit I can decide if the ban is worth it or not. At the time I posted this I just got banned at a moment I really wanted to play, so that’s what the frustration is about.

But you’re deliberately avoiding my point anyway, aren’t you? I clearly stated what information I wanted (and still want). This is exactly the appropriate place for me to inquire about the ban system. I don’t want it to go unadressed, however I don’t want random people to start -Yoinking!- for no reason.

> But you did insult me by telling me to not start games I won’t finish.
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> I know the reasons are irrelevant, I didn’t come here to complain that I shouldn’t be banned (where did you ever read that? :S). I just wanted (and still want) to know how a few quit bans occured right after a game I did finish instead of after me actually quitting or being booted.
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> If I am on probation and I want to quit I can decide if the ban is worth it or not. At the time I posted this I just got banned at a moment I really wanted to play, so that’s what the frustration is about.
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> But you’re deliberately avoiding my point anyway, aren’t you? I clearly stated what information I wanted (and still want). This is exactly the appropriate place for me to inquire about the ban system. I don’t want it to go unadressed, however I don’t want random people to start -Yoinking!- for no reason.

“Don’t start what you don’t intend to finish.” = advice for future, seeing as 1 DNF (Did Not Finish) will trigger a time out. Again, advice for future, not an accusation… Last time, while on probation do not start a game unless you are willing to run the risk of a DNF. Like you said, you don’t quit a lot… But 1 single quit is enough.

I’ve been quit ban before, can’t say I’ve ever experienced a delay. Nor have I heard the like of it in the last couple hundred pages of this thread. (Save for your post, obviously)

Oh sure, advise, that’s why it said ‘Please’. xD Nevermind man, at least I finally got an answer to my question. So it must be glitchy then? I don’t remember if I had a quit/boot on the game before that one… I certainly hope it doesn’t randomly register some games as ‘quit’ while I finished them (that would explain this whole situation though), but it’s hard to believe the system would make such errors.

I’ll see if it happens again. Right now I’m not on probation because I finished all my -Yoink- games of firefight and big team… Go great, people vote WATERFRONT, and worse FRGfight, and then during the first round all three of them leave. I fail to stay alive and get nothing towards perfectionist. Just 20 minutes of gameplay I don’t even like. Why can’t I quit without getting banned at least when everyone else has quit before me. :S Or why can’t I earn firefight commendations when playing by myself? I have played dozens of firefight games this week, and I can remember only one in which no one quit, and only a few in which I had teammates that weren’t total yoink.
And finished several games of Big Team and Invasion against party’s full of inheritors or whatever looking to up their kd by spawnkilling. Of course most people leave so it’s mostly 2 or three guys left against the onslaught of vehicles.

And I am not allowed to quit. Great.

> Oh sure, advise, that’s why it said ‘Please’. xD Nevermind man, at least I finally got an answer to my question. So it must be glitchy then? I don’t remember if I had a quit/boot on the game before that one… I certainly hope it doesn’t randomly register some games as ‘quit’ while I finished them (that would explain this whole situation though), but it’s hard to believe the system would make such errors.
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> I’ll see if it happens again. Right now I’m not on probation because I finished all my Yoink! games of firefight and big team… Go great, people vote WATERFRONT, and worse FRGfight, and then during the first round all three of them leave. I fail to stay alive and get nothing towards perfectionist. Just 20 minutes of gameplay I don’t even like. Why can’t I quit without getting banned at least when everyone else has quit before me. :S Or why can’t I earn firefight commendations when playing by myself? I have played dozens of firefight games this week, and I can remember only one in which no one quit, and only a few in which I had teammates that weren’t total yoink.
> And finished several games of Big Team and Invasion against party’s full of inheritors or whatever looking to up their kd by spawnkilling. Of course most people leave so it’s mostly 2 or three guys left against the onslaught of vehicles.
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> And I am not allowed to quit. Great.

Just so you know… Everybody didnt leave. You couldn’t stay connected to the host. Very common on firefight. At least those times when every one seems to quit at one time and you are the only one still playing. Play with. Group of friends if you wish to verify.

Most people don’t know it counts as a quit because they still play and complete the game, they just think every body left. But I was plying with buds from Mexico and France, we were all still playing but the game split us all up into two groups. Happened again in Invasion. Very frustrating because I hold 93% wins in that playlist.

Host migration problems will be seen more and more as the population dwindles, good luck to you.

The connection failures are probably the times the game freezes and names start to flicker(Like the game is trying to see if things improve)? Then after that the game continue but one or more immediately drop out(Like the game gives up). Right?
I’ve never had everybody leave at the same time yet, I think. And most of the time it’s people quitting after voting or on loading screen (dashboarding), quitting right at start of the game (‘leave game’), ragequits on limited because they totally suck, or people going for perfectionist or grounded quitting when they accidentally die early on or I steal their vechicles… If it were only the disconnects, it wouldn’t be nearly as bad. =]

Btw, I’m playing with at least one friend in the party like half of the time. I’m in the Netherlands, and I’m playing with France, Africa, and US. Never had disconnects in those games, maybe because my connection is totally awesome? =]

Btw, 93%, holy yoink, how do you do that? xD I just checked, I have 69%, I guess by just focussing on the objective, but that often isn’t enough. On normal Invasion (most of the games) it’s doable to force a win by defending well, but on the offense I find it really hard to succeed if your team is not good enough or not focusing. I seem to only get the wins when teams were kinda balanced in the first place, but that can’t happened 93% of the time, so you must kick soms -Yoink-. :stuck_out_tongue:

> The connection failures are probably the times the game freezes and names start to flicker(Like the game is trying to see if things improve)? Then after that the game continue but one or more immediately drop out(Like the game gives up). Right?
> I’ve never had everybody leave at the same time yet, I think. And most of the time it’s people quitting after voting or on loading screen (dashboarding), quitting right at start of the game (‘leave game’), ragequits on limited because they totally suck, or people going for perfectionist or grounded quitting when they accidentally die early on or I steal their vechicles… <mark>If it were only the disconnects, it wouldn’t be nearly as bad. =]</mark>
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> Btw, I’m playing with at least one friend in the party like half of the time. I’m in the Netherlands, and I’m playing with France, Africa, and US. <mark>Never had disconnects in those games, maybe because my connection is totally awesome? =]</mark>
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> <mark>Btw, 93%, holy yoink, how do you do that? xD I just checked, I have 69%, I guess by just focussing on the objective, but that often isn’t enough.</mark> On normal Invasion (most of the games) it’s doable to force a win by defending well, but on the offense I find it really hard to succeed if your team is not good enough or not focusing. I seem to only get the wins when teams were kinda balanced in the first place, but that can’t happened 93% of the time, so you must kick soms -Yoink!-. :stuck_out_tongue:

I thrive most on quitting teammates. Since matchmaking selection is slim, each team tends to have a spread of skill. As long as the average skill of one team matches the average skill of the other… Matchmaking considers it a match. Imagine if both teams had two Grade “A” Players and two Grade “F” players… Both teams average a “c” grade… But if one team has its two “F” players quit, that team is out numbered but it now has an average skill “A” (what team is really at the disadvantage? The outnumbered Ace’s or the the team that has to guard two poor sheep from the wolves?)

If you have a great connection, that is already half the battle. My teammates enjoy pointing out how crap my connection is. Enjoy this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DHneTLn8ok

Not as hard as you think. My slayer stats where about the same or worse than yours when I was your rank. Most of my wins in invasion was because my team monitored the leader boards on HaloTracker, recruited people who wanted to win. Most wins just come due to not being matched with anyone willing to fight back. People tend to just roll over, quit and hide. The real struggle comes after you start matching against other Teams. That’s when practicing with your team, studying maps in forge becomes helpful. If you are lucky, the enemy team is only playing to build their K/D. Those such teams, when you meet them with a strong opening push at the beginning, they all quite and try to hope the don’t match against you again. My team recruited me from btb. They were on the opposite team and hammered us till half of us quit, I stayed and got several multikills. After the slaughter, one of them logged off and the others invited me on. The wanted me in invasion because I don’t give two poops about my K/D, I play to win.

> I seem to only get the wins when teams were kinda balanced in the first place, but that can’t happened 93% of the time, so you must kick soms -Yoink!-. :stuck_out_tongue:

I can hold my own, but no. Invasion is a team game. All credit goes to the team. Our sniper gets good snipes because his spawn partner Paints his target with waypoints, I protect out vehicles by hunting down threats like Lasers/rockets/plasma launchers. Every body knows their job. I know that if I do my job, my teammates will have an easier time doing there’s and the machine feeds itself till our enemies quit. Nothing pro level, just basic control and communication.

> I thrive most on quitting teammates. Since matchmaking selection is slim, each team tends to have a spread of skill. As long as the average skill of one team matches the average skill of the other… Matchmaking considers it a match. Imagine if both teams had two Grade “A” Players and two Grade “F” players… Both teams average a “c” grade… But if one team has its two “F” players quit, that team is out numbered but it now has an average skill “A” (what team is really at the disadvantage? The outnumbered Ace’s or the the team that has to guard two poor sheep from the wolves?

Well on Team Slayer most of the time matchups are pretty nice, so quits do usually make the game worse, either impossible for me to win or boring as -Yoink- because we rape the one or two guys that are left.
(I see the point though)

Connection, tv (& possibly xbox) quality and my current state (on alcohol? tired? playing for hours already? agitated, distracted?) I feel like that’s 33%, teamwork is 33%, and just 33% is my own aiming & strategic skill. So I’m pretty happy my connection and tv are great at least. xD Cool game btw, teamwork looks nice. =]

Ghe, ok cool, my rank is actually surprisingly high if you look at how much multiplayer I’ve played. Because I’ve played loads of campaign (cr from commendations + challenges) and firefight (well, same thing). I feel like I just started on multiplayer, still don’t know lots of forge maps, I still find out about weapon spawns all the time. xD (too lazy to go on forge and check it out)

The fact that you’re playing with the same team does explain a lot though, of course when you get to actually work together (instead of running around like total idiots – or worse, betraying each other) things go a lot better and you’ll rape most teams of randoms.

I would think though that most of the time it will be boring to fight against randoms? On Invasion, BTB, or even Team Objective, MOST of the time when I run into a ‘team’ people quit, on freaking loading screen, or after the first few kills. I’m so annoyed by it, I’m ok with losing, but not ok with spending 20 minutes getting humped by 6/8 guys on my own. I stick with it when there is any hope of a reasonable fight but sometimes there just isn’t. Then I wonder, isn’t it boring for the opponents? Because everything you run into quits, matches are rarely exciting… The teamwork sounds awesome and I am quite disappointed in how few it happens in multiplayer. But I love close matches(even when I lose), so I don’t think I would really prefer it in the end.

SpartanAce your quit bans will be coming from playing Firefight. The networking model is different to matchmaking. I the originl host quits or lags out anytime during the game you will be put into your own little game and the Banhammer will stupidly record a quit against you and everyone else in the game. If Bungie still ran the Stats you would see all these FF games with DNF in your game history but on Waypoint they dont show that anymore. I got sick of this myself so now i just play score attack or sign in another guest account on normal FF, turn on all search restrictions and usually just go into a game on my own with my guest. Make sure you get one kill on the guest account to avoid a credit ban for AFKing and your problem is solved.

Just in case you dont understand the quit ban probation system i will explain it for you. Once you are on probation you are on it for 48 hours. No quits in 48 hours and you are back to normal again. If you quit at anytime during that 48 hour period you get a 10 min ban and the bloody probation period resets to another 48 hours again.

My son informs me my GT has been banned from Reach. I’m not certain why, since I’m not in front of the console and haven’t recv’d an email from XBL with the details. My son said he thought it was from quitting games. Again, I didn’t see the XBL message and still have zero notification email from XBL.

Because I don’t have any of this information, I don’t know the length of the ban and what (if any) actions are needed on my part to have the ban lifted.

My son has been playing halo reach for less that 8 hours. He was banned for like 30 minutes from matchmaking for no reason at all. He was not cursing he was not using modes. he was not using fowl language and he was not quitting any games. I want to know why he would have been banned. I looked over the code of conduct for both xbox and halo and he has done nothing to violate the bilaws. I am so furious. Please someone give me some insight.

I think you should always receive notification of a reason either ingame or on the email account associated with the gamertag. Didn’t get or see anything? Maybe it’s a fail in the system, I wouldn’t worry too much, if it happens again, maybe call xbl customer service.

> My son has been playing halo reach for less that 8 hours. He was banned for like 30 minutes from matchmaking for no reason at all. He was not cursing he was not using modes. he was not using fowl language and he was not quitting any games. I want to know why he would have been banned. I looked over the code of conduct for both xbox and halo and he has done nothing to violate the bilaws. I am so furious. Please someone give me some insight.

Miner Xan can you give us some more info please. What message are you getting. Is it something like " this account is temporarily banned from matchmaking".

Also what is your sons gamertag or is he playing under your Miner Xan account. I want this so I can look at the game history and work out what may of caused this.

> I think you should always receive notification of a reason either ingame or on the email account associated with the gamertag. Didn’t get or see anything? Maybe it’s a fail in the system, I wouldn’t worry too much, if it happens again, maybe call xbl customer service.

Dont bother wasting your time with calling XBL customer Service. Why you ask?

A: You wont get any (Customer Service)

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B: They will send you right back to this thread on WayPoint. Believe it or not.

I just started playing Reach online and I started having problems. I would be in a matchmaking game and I would be doing great but then I would lose connection, then after a few times of that I get this message saying that due to the frequency of me “quitting” I will be banned from matchmaking. Now I have run the internet test trough the 360 console and I’m getting all green and I’ve even called my internet provider just to make sure that I have the highest internet speed they offer, which I do. I’ve also read the statement post by the 343 industries aholes stating that you will not be banned due to connection problems, but I have been. So to sum this up 343i can take a step back and literally Fk their own face.

"I’ve also read the statement post by the 343 industries aholes stating that you will not be banned due to connection problems, but I have been. So to sum this up 343i can take a step back and literally Fk their own face."

LOL :slight_smile:

Wow, I know the quote from here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-DTAQ6d1t – is it from a movie or something?

-Yoink- situation though. System fails and no customer service. =] I get frustrated at times when I think of the situation, community is dependant on servers/service etc and they don’t really seem to care if things go wrong.

All About the money boi!

The quote is from Tropic Thunder when Les Grossman is yelling at the Flaming Dragon guy.

Lots and lots of money and a G5.

How many days are you banned from receiving credits when you leave too many games