Why Did I Get Banned - The Official Thread

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> Today I was playing Halo: Reach with my friend (he was on a guest account) and we were playing Team Doubles, and there was a Nova and an Eclipse in the game and I’m not gonna lie, he’s not the best at Halo: Reach. When he see’s their KD (71,000 kills and 43,000 deaths and 86,000 kills and 34,000 deaths, which is a close estimate) he dashboards n the pre-game lobby. And when I’m unbanned from going into matchmaking, something similar happens, a Noble and a Forerunner or Reclaimer (forgot which one) were on the other team with really high, boosted looking KDs. We’re on the Red team on Uncaged and as he gets the gets the grenade launcher he gets fragged off the edge of the map by the Blue team, and this time I guess he signs out and I thought the other team quit because it said we had won. So I back out and notice I’m banned temporarily banned and I get kind of mad I’ll admit. So then I decide I’m done playing with him, and make use of my time being banned, I go into campaign and do the commendation boost for “Nice Arm”, while my grenade kills me, and go outside for about 20 minutes and play catch. When I get back I go upstairs to play some matchmaking and on my screen it says “THIS CONSOLE HAS BEEN BANNED FROM PLAYING MATCHMAKING FOR ONE WEEK.”, “YOU HAVE LEFT TOO MANY MATCHMAKING GAMES AND IF YOU LEAVE AGAIN YOU WILL BE TEMORARILY BANNED.”, and “THIS ACCOUNT HAS BANNED FROM PLAYING MATCHMAKING FOR ONE WEEK.” Is this necessary for leaving too many games? This has never happened before. NOTE: I ONLY STATE EVERY DETAIL TO CLEARLY STATE WHAT HAPPENED.

This is the first I have heard of being banned from Matchmaking for a week for quitting, could you perhaps post an image of all the messages?

> Can you please give me information about gamertag jasonkiller50 and why I was banned from Halo Reach? I was playing my game a couple of months ago and while playing it said “temporarily banned from earning credits” I didn’t do anything wrong but didn’t know what to do so I waited out the suspension and a few weeks later was able to play again. After 2 days it said the same thing again and I still didn’t know why. I just started to play my game again last night and it happen again within a few hours. I called xbox live customer service and they said for me to post a help post to this website. Can you please help me and look into this problem, I think there may be a glitch.
> Thank you

You were AFK in this game: AFK Game - SWAT on Asylum

It is likely you AFK’d before hand as well and got banned for such activity.

> gamertag: matt9878
> ban lenth: four months and going
> txt: this acount is temp baned from earning credits.
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> can you tell we why and how much longer

I looked at your game history and you have a LOT of AFKing activity, you still do now during your ban and a lot four months ago when you got banned.

I can’t tell you how much longer your ‘temporary’ ban will last, but I know they have a six month temporary ban, so it may only be two more months, you never know.

> At any point am I going to get a response for the unjust bans?

This topic is purely for finding out why a user was banned, in your case, it was the AFKing activity, there is nothing you can do if you believe a ban is unjust.

> I was playing halo reach and then i had to go have dinner and i didn’t want to get a 10 minute ban so i stayed in the game and then i came back and started playing again but i got a call on Skype and didn’t want to get a 10 minute ban so stayed in the game and after that game a message popped up saying id been temporarily banned. All i would like to know is how long this is for and will my rank and armor be reset.
> Any help would be much appreciated Thanks :slight_smile:

If it is a first time offence, it is likely to last 24-48 hours, trust me though, next time, go with the 10 minute ban rather than the 24 hour one.

Your armour or rank will not be reset, if it was going to, it would have already as soon as the ban was given.

> how long would be a ban for boosting, or being afc for too long
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> XD thnx

Depends on how many offences you have had in the past.

First time offences tend to last 24-48 hours.

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I had a quick question, I like to play grifball mostly, and some games i get 0 kills but have 2 - 3 plants, does the ban system take in other means of getting points i.e capture the flag, king of the hill, etc. or is it only based on kills?

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Yesterday I was playing Lone Wolves in Halo 3 matchmaking. In the middle of the game I recieved a message on the screen that popped up and dissappeared before I got the chance to read it. At the end of the game I was immediately backed out of matchmaking and given another message. This message was a huge surprise to me because it told me that my account had been banned from matchmaking for one week. I then found out that it was not only the account that I was playing on that got banned, it was my entire console. I am not sure how it is fair for someone who plays by the rules and does not cheat to be subjected to a week’s ban. I want an answer reguarding the reason why this happened to me, and also an answer as to whether or not I will be compensated for the amount of time that I have missed because of this illegitimate ban. Please e-mail me with answers as soon as possible at player93373206@yahoo.com. My subscription was only gold for one month so I would like to waste the least amount and start playing on it my the end of the day. Thank you.

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> I had a quick question, I like to play grifball mostly, and some games i get 0 kills but have 2 - 3 plants, does the ban system take in other means of getting points i.e capture the flag, king of the hill, etc. or is it only based on kills?

It tracks if you have zero kills, medals, objective points, if you have any of them, you won’t be banned for AFKing.

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Im the father of my 11 tear old son who had his credit privileges temporarily banned approximately ten days ago. He swears that he did not not use ANY inappropriate language or game play. Could someone else have caused this ban to be placed on his account? His gamer tag is theMETAx. Could you Please lift the temporary ban on his account or let us know how much longer temporary means.
Thank you.

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  1. You should post here

  2. Posting personal information, including e-mail, is generally not a good idea

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This message is intended for the developers who have server access. I hope that some of them read this forum. The message is intended to be read in a neutral tone and thoughtful manner, who’s purpose is to admonish the developers to make a change to code as well as attitude.

First of all, there seems to be an assumption that, simply because one was banned, one did something wrong. This is the same attitude that many people have regarding police. If they investigate you, then surely you did something wrong. No? The fact of the matter is, the real world outside of Halo does not always conform to the virtual world. In the real world, not everyone is a 23 year old elite game. Truth be told, a technologically challenged grandpa may play a game or two, as well as a 5 year old who wants to play with her older brother once in awhile. A 0 kill game does not mean someone was idle, although that seems to be an assumption. Keep in mind, this is not the particular issue that is effecting me, but I see others speaking about it.

Next, I’ll address my issue. My issue has been blamed on network connectivity according to a conversation with Microsoft. Ironically, the documents on bungies web site say you can’t be banned for network connectivity. I’m trying to determine what may constitute a ‘quit’. If you get booted from a game for a ‘betrayal’, then it seems that may constitute a quit. Not every betrayal is intentional. I described on case of this in a previous post. Another thing I suspect constitutes a quit is when the system disconnects from a server only to reconnect later, to the same or different server. I read a case on this blog where a person thought he was the only one still playing a firefight, but it may have finished local. Ideally, this shouldn’t count as a quit, according to your own docs, but I wonder. In my case, I’ve seen this disconnect/reconnect happen numerous times, and thus I’m suspicious. However, almost every case involves direct competition, such as slayer or invasion. This is important, because another player does not behave in the same manner as a computer program, like you are playing against in invasion. I can’t believe that in any of my cases, we were still playing locally, and the computer was playing the red team or the blue team. This makes me believe that the reconnection process may have somehow counted as a quit.

There seems to be much concern about people who earn credits to fast. Let us ponder this for a moment. They get a fancy title, logo, and more armor. Does it really matter that much? Seriously. They are now mightier in their own mind. I say, let them have at it. Seriously. Does it really matter that much? Is it worth aggitating the paying customers to stop someone from getting a rank faster than they should? It’s just a video game rank. This whole system will probably not even be here in 5 years, then all of their ‘accomplishments’ will be forgotten. It’s a virtual world, and not the real world. George Washington isn’t remembered because he was a general in a video game. Video game accomplishments mean nothing. They are an illusion. Let people live their illusion.

This concept that someone is cheating by idling seems absurd to me. Perhaps I am naive, but how can two people on the same console be on different teams in matchmaking? (custom games, I get, match making, I don’t) Here’s my point. Assume someone is wanting to win a matchmaking game so badly, they are willing to get someone else to be idle, and pull off kill, after kill, after kill on the idle player. That’s the theory… right? How on earth do they pull this off on the same console? This seems like a flawed assumption to me. If there’s a concern that someone perhaps just left the game on in matchmaking mode, could you not automatically kick a 0 kill back to the main lobby after say, three 0 kill games in a row?

Regarding the ban hammer itself. Perhaps once someone has been flagged as a quitter, keep their stats no more than 3 days. Then have a matchmaking preference option for everyone, ‘avoid quitters’. Then if someone is labeled a quitter, in error or otherwise, they aren’t just banned out. It’s obvious to me, something is very wrong here.

Finally, I want the developers to consider the concept that the vast majority of your subscriptions come from the non-professional consumer. There seems to be an assumption that the world is full of elite gamers and hackers. The reality is, the world is full of dads and kids, who play a baseball game in the afternoon, and sit down to play a game to wind down after supper and homework in the evening. I think the company should be more concerned about not upsetting these folks than combatting elite gamers. Even though the gamers are by far more vocal and passionate, by a factor of many dozens to one, if not hundreds to one, the average consumer outnumbers these elite gamers. Don’t hammer these people, even if an occasional jerk slips through the cracks. The average consumer you hammer this year, may be a WII or Playstation consumer the next year. If someone wants to contact me via phone for some thoughtful discussion on this topic, let me know.

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Something like that doesn’t belong here, this is purely to find out why you got banned, seems you are just trying to point out some flaws in the banning system which I agree with, but if anything, it should be in its own topic.

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Your son was AFKing in this game: Invasion on Spire, which is against the rules.

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i was reacently banned during a match i was active in. i got the message i was banned an currently know not why, but i can guess due to my low kill rate that it could be cause it looked like i was boosting. i do know the banhammer rules an as a pretty weak player i am sometimes lucky to even get a kill in some back to back games, especially when the oposing team are all high class players, i do worry about the rules an slightly find it hurtfull that my low skills can cause such an outcome. can anyone help me out?

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> i was reacently banned during a match i was active in. i got the message i was banned an currently know not why, but i can guess due to my low kill rate that it could be cause it looked like i was boosting. i do know the banhammer rules an as a pretty weak player i am sometimes lucky to even get a kill in some back to back games, especially when the oposing team are all high class players, i do worry about the rules an slightly find it hurtfull that my low skills can cause such an outcome. can anyone help me out?

Well you said it yourself, you likely have multiple zero kill games, resulting in AFKing activity.

First time bans tend to last 24-48 hours.

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well that really is great. i get penalized simply cause i can’t play to save my life. if i knew going four to five games with out a kill cause i kept gettign killed every five seconds so i go an camp where i think i could get a kill but cause no one goes by i get nothing would cause this kind of bann i would of stuck to playing the best part of halo the offline game instead of tryign to become part of the comunity an improve myself against other people.

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I to have been credit banned while playing a casual game online. The game had started I killed a few guys then my console was randomly banned! I really don’t get what I did wrong.

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> I to have been credit banned while playing a casual game online. The game had started I killed a few guys then my console was randomly banned! I really don’t get what I did wrong.

Your guest was AFK in this game: SWAT on Reflection

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can u explain what Afk is to me so i know what i did i am confused how do i do it when i am baned if it is getting 1 to 3 kill that is because i suck i get 5 on other maps because i am used to them

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> can u explain what Afk is to me so i know what i did i am confused how do i do it when i am baned if it is getting 1 to 3 kill that is because i suck i get 5 on other maps because i am used to them

AFKing is short for Away from Keyboarding, it is said instead of Away from Controller.

It is against the rules because you are getting cR for doing nothing, giving you an unfair advantage.

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How do I find out how long it will last? In some of the other posts I read they all knew how long it will be.

All I have is a message that reads this Xbox and gamer tag have a temporary ban from earning CR.

I assume I was banned for killing some guest accounts while we were playing in a full party. I was not trying to boost not that it matters I understand it doesn’t matter I still did it if I had known I was would get banned I would not have even done that.

This is my spring break and was planing on playing but now life sucks for me :slight_smile:

Thank you for any information.

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> How do I find out how long it will last? In some of the other posts I read they all knew how long it will be.
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> All I have is a message that reads this Xbox and gamer tag have a temporary ban from earning CR.
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> I assume I was banned for killing some guest accounts while we were playing in a full party. I was not trying to boost not that it matters I understand it doesn’t matter I still did it if I had known I was would get banned I would not have even done that.
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> This is my spring break and was planing on playing but now life sucks for me :slight_smile:
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> Thank you for any information.

If it is your first time ban, 24-48 hours is usually the default.

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Crap I think I posted the original in the wrong spot… I apologize I was in the banned sub folders and instead of replying in that folder I hit new post which I thought would do a new post in that folder. But I see it on the main page.

How do I find out how long it will last? In some of the other posts I read they all knew how long it will be.

All I have is a message that reads this Xbox and gamer tag have a temporary ban from earning CR.

I assume I was banned for killing some guest accounts while we were playing in a full party. I was not trying to boost not that it matters I understand it doesn’t matter I still did it if I had known I was would get banned I would not have even done that.

This is my spring break and was planing on playing but now life sucks for me :slight_smile:

Thank you for any information.

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> Crap I think I posted the original in the wrong spot… I apologize I was in the banned sub folders and instead of replying in that folder I hit new post which I thought would do a new post in that folder. But I see it on the main page.
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> How do I find out how long it will last? In some of the other posts I read they all knew how long it will be.
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> All I have is a message that reads this Xbox and gamer tag have a temporary ban from earning CR.
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> I assume I was banned for killing some guest accounts while we were playing in a full party. I was not trying to boost not that it matters I understand it doesn’t matter I still did it if I had known I was would get banned I would not have even done that.
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> This is my spring break and was planing on playing but now life sucks for me :slight_smile:
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> Thank you for any information.

Your original post was moved here, I answered your question above :slight_smile: