Why did Halo 5 come out unfinished?

Don’t get me wrong, Halo 5 is a blast so far, but why did the game not have splitscreen and forge at release?

There’s a lot of theories ranging from laziness to too many things at once, but it probably is a combo of a new engine and architecture on the Xbox One, that took a lot of time I’ll guess, and also too many new ideas like the Warzone and Breakout, 343 is pushing their new stuff at the expense of old. And FYI split screen is never coming, apparently it was “incompatible” with 60FPS/Screen Res.

Sadly, no split screen and late Forge aren’t the only issues in Halo 5.

Things missing from Campaign:
Campaign theater mode.
Campaign Scoring (team and FFA)
Campaign matchmaking (Heroic difficulty, because achievements)
Campaign commendations. (Enemies, vehicles, weapons[including hidden legendary weapons] etc.)
Experience towards rank.
REQ points earned in campaign.
And some special armor or skins for beating it Legendary.
Bandana Skull for the heck of it. (Besides, they invented it for Halo remakes, but didn’t include it in their own game?)

I want a PvE mode.

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> There’s a lot of theories ranging from laziness to too many things at once, but it probably is a combo of a new engine and architecture on the Xbox One, that took a lot of time I’ll guess, and also too many new ideas like the Warzone and Breakout, 343 is pushing their new stuff at the expense of old. And FYI split screen is never coming, apparently it was “incompatible” with 60FPS/Screen Res.

Thanks. Sucks to hear about that splitscreen thing. =)

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> Things missing from Campaign:
> Campaign theater mode.
> Campaign Scoring (team and FFA)
> Campaign matchmaking (Heroic difficulty, because achievements)
> Campaign commendations. (Enemies, vehicles, weapons[including hidden legendary weapons] etc.)
> Experience towards rank.
> REQ points earned in campaign.
> And some special armor or skins for beating it Legendary.
> Bandana Skull for the heck of it. (Besides, they invented it for Halo remakes, but didn’t include it in their own game?)

I knew I forgot some things. I REALLY wan’t campaign theater mode.

Microshaft’s stupid deadlines and 343 wasting time on unnecessary -Yoink- i.e. REQ System and Spartan Abilities.

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> I want a PvE mode.

Do you mean like in Warzone Assault? Like, Covenant fights the players while the players fight each other?

If I had to guess (and I do): pressure from MS combined with misallocation of resources and possibly incompetence on the part of multiple employees.

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> Do you mean like in Warzone Assault? Like, Covenant fights the players while the players fight each other?

Like firefight, spartan ops, etc.

What many people have mentioned is a giant PvE version of Warzone, with 24 spartans against AI. It would be epic and the possibilities with it are endless.

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> There’s a lot of theories ranging from laziness to too many things at once, but it probably is a combo of a new engine and architecture on the Xbox One, that took a lot of time I’ll guess, and also too many new ideas like the Warzone and Breakout, 343 is pushing their new stuff at the expense of old. And FYI split screen is never coming, apparently it was “incompatible” with 60FPS/Screen Res.

most legit well thought out answer i have seen since launch

i want to buy you a beer

i am thinking this is the most likely reason.

infection has tons of particles and extra stuff that would drop frames or push the Xbone into a new RROD so it might turn into the Classic H3 infection without flood skins

scrapping split screen because it would be “less pretty” is kinda lame imo because EVERY FPS that had a cult following had Split for families and friends. look at every other halo and you will see that details, particles and graphics were slightly reduced to keep it running at 30fps (or close to it)

i mean MCC had it so it shouldnt have been that hard to implement (even with scarab gun spam it ran smoothly on split screen)

343i wants to make a name for themselves so pushing the HCS esports agenda was a priority and their new brain child Warzone

i am hoping this “new social playlist” will be something enjoyable for all

I’d just say this is the way the industry is right now until gamers say NOPE, we are not buying that. Seems to be the industry model right now. Just release the game in pieces. Good thing is we are getting content free. COD, Destiny, Battlefront, ect all want money for the other pieces. I love Destiny, but it’s robbery in a sense. Every FPS that comes out these days follow this release in pieces trend.

developers are told when to have it out finished or not. Which is bs. I remember waiting a few extra months for titles back in the day cause they weren’t ready. Developers get a lot of crap for stuff producers do to them.

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24 players + AI might be a bit taxing

a 12 player versus AI might be more appropriate however the lack of AI intelligence will make it a little too easy since the campaign had a ton of AI but they werent really challenging

If it was released on 2016 with full contents, it might be deserved Game of the Year…

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> If it was released on 2016 with full contents, it might be deserved Game of the Year…

Maybe. I would have waited longer if it came out with all the features. =)

Because microsoft chooses when the game releases. not 343

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> Don’t get me wrong, Halo 5 is a blast so far, but why did the game not have splitscreen and forge at release?

Split screen went for a packet of cigarettes and never came back.

Forge looks like its had a massive upgrade, im not suprised it didnt arrive with launch.

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> scrapping split screen because it would be “less pretty”

Halo 5 is a fine game but I would not call it pretty …