Why Can't We Accept 343

Hello everyone. I am sure most of you that visit this topic are not huge fans of 343 and think they are doing all the wrong things. However I think 343 is doing a good job and we need to let them relax a bit. They know what makes a halo game. So let’s stop pressuring and lets appreciate Halo and Halo 5!

Because people are not objective thats why

They don’t know how to make a good game. Halo 4 was only good in campain department but terrible in everything else. Halo MCC had their servers powered by potato’s. Halo 5 is far too much like COD advanced warfare but with shields. To add sins onto HALO 5 the game lacked all content it should have on RELEASE and the gameplay is more boring than Reach swat for 10 hours.
Jul 'Mdamas death? The Arbiter should have killed him.

343 if I want to farm I will play Farming simulator.

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> …Halo 5 is far too much like COD advanced warfare but with shields…

Ummm… what?

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Halo 5s atmosphere and gameplay in arena is worse than COD advanced warfare. It’s basically the same concept with a bit of HALO trown in.

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> Halo 5s atmosphere and gameplay in arena is worse than COD advanced warfare. It’s basically the same concept with a bit of HALO trown in.

Lol right…cuz CoD fights for power weapons and uses symmetrical maps. Also hate to tell you, but most of halos abilities were in before CoD started using them.

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> Lol right…cuz CoD fights for power weapons and uses symmetrical maps. Also hate to tell you, but most of halos abilities were in before CoD started using them.

Speaking of which, the first Call of Duty came out in 2003, a good two years after Halo CE. Just a tidbit I found back in the days when there was a legitimate rivalry between the two franchises (specifically in response to the infamous claim that “CoD came out first!”).

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You’re nuts, man. Halo 5 is nothing like CoD.

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But it’s nothing like Reach or 4 either. Name a time you saw a Player as an Elite walk by in 343 made Halos. (No MCC doesn’t count. They’re made by Bunjie)

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> But it’s nothing like Reach or 4 either. Name a time you saw a Player as an Elite walk by in 343 made Halos. (No MCC doesn’t count. They’re made by Bunjie)

Your telling me that if Elites aren’t in Halo its COD? great logic son

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If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, looks like a duck… you get the point. Halo 5 borrows many mechanics from modern military shooters, in general. But, unfortunately, what works for other shooters, doesn’t really work for Halo. That’s why there is a split in the community over nu-Halo. A lot of people don’t like the new mechanics, but they ( the mechanics) continue to be implemented in the games after 2 games (Reach and Halo 4) that have shown that the mechanics are not all that good.

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> But it’s nothing like Reach or 4 either. Name a time you saw a Player as an Elite walk by in 343 made Halos. (No MCC doesn’t count. They’re made by Bunjie)

Halo 5 still doesn’t feel like CoD. Doesn’t matter how many character models you throw in the game.

343 has a ways to go before they earn back my trust. Never forget that they tried to sell us out with Halo 4, or that they were responsible in some capacity or another for one of the most abysmal launches and indeed post launch support in the MCC. Halo 5 is a step in the right direction, but it shipped barebones and we’re still waiting for it to be completed.

My question to you is as to why you’re so quick to forgive them. Am I the only one who still has a chip on his shoulder about having purchased a console to play some beloved ports which spent 6 months totally broken and the other 6 months only partially broken and absolutely dead? Should I forget that they added care packages and perks as if to say “these -Yoinks!- will buy anything with Halo in the name anyway”? I’m not saying they’ll never recover from that, but trust is a hell of a lot easier to lose than gain.

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> Hello everyone. I am sure most of you that visit this topic are not huge fans of 343 and think they are doing all the wrong things. However I think 343 is doing a good job and we need to let them relax a bit. They know what makes a halo game. So let’s stop pressuring and lets appreciate Halo and Halo 5!

OP, I’m sure you’re a nice person, but this reads like you’re a kindergarten teacher trying to make your students stop re-enacting The Purge during recess. A valiant and noble intent to be sure, but really… Good luck.

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> 343 has a ways to go before they earn back my trust. Never forget that they tried to sell us out with Halo 4, or that they were responsible in some capacity or another for one of the most abysmal launches and indeed post launch support in the MCC. Halo 5 is a step in the right direction, but it shipped barebones and we’re still waiting for it to be completed.
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> My question to you is as to why you’re so quick to forgive them. Am I the only one who still has a chip on his shoulder about having purchased a console to play some beloved ports which spent 6 months totally broken and the other 6 months only partially broken and absolutely dead? Should I forget that they added care packages and perks as if to say “these -Yoinks!- will buy anything with Halo in the name anyway”? I’m not saying they’ll never recover from that, but trust is a hell of a lot easier to lose than gain.

Dude, you are not the only one. There is an entire forum, the Waypoint MCC forums, that is filled with people with, for lack of a better term, grievances with 343i for their failure to re-release classic Halo on the Xbone. People are honestly wary of 343i after the last 2 games of failure.

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> 343 has a ways to go before they earn back my trust. Never forget that they tried to sell us out with Halo 4, or that they were responsible in some capacity or another for one of the most abysmal launches and indeed post launch support in the MCC. Halo 5 is a step in the right direction, but it shipped barebones and we’re still waiting for it to be completed.
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> My question to you is as to why you’re so quick to forgive them. Am I the only one who still has a chip on his shoulder about having purchased a console to play some beloved ports which spent 6 months totally broken and the other 6 months only partially broken and absolutely dead? Should I forget that they added care packages and perks as if to say “these -Yoinks!- will buy anything with Halo in the name anyway”? I’m not saying they’ll never recover from that, but trust is a hell of a lot easier to lose than gain.

All of this I can agree on.

Pointless post is pointless.

  1. Big shoes to fill
  2. Rough start

I think 343 is in the beginning stages of building back trust. Halo 5 was a step in the right direction.

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> 1) Big shoes to fill
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> I think 343 is in the beginning stages of building back trust. Halo 5 was a step in the right direction.

No I would of been happy if they actually made a game as good as Reach ON LAUNCH and if they didn’t remove beloved features such as:
•Playable Elites
•Plasma Rifle
•The Legendary UNSC flying vechiles.
•Armor abilities.
•SPNKR (Granted it did return but it wasn’t available at launch so…)
•Terrible Armors
•Micro-Transactions. (Halo isn’t run by EA )
•Removal of 2 seater Covenant vechile.

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> > > Halo 5s atmosphere and gameplay in arena is worse than COD advanced warfare. It’s basically the same concept with a bit of HALO trown in.
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> > You’re nuts, man. Halo 5 is nothing like CoD.
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> If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, looks like a duck… you get the point. Halo 5 borrows many mechanics from modern military shooters, in general. But, unfortunately, what works for other shooters, doesn’t really work for Halo. That’s why there is a split in the community over nu-Halo. A lot of people don’t like the new mechanics, but they ( the mechanics) continue to be implemented in the games after 2 games (Reach and Halo 4) that have shown that the mechanics are not all that good.

Name 3 mechanics it borrows? I think 3 would qualify as a lot, right?

> They know what makes a halo game.

I really don’t think they do.

When I think Halo, I don’t think of weapons with racing decals and flashy robo-skeletons.

> Name 3 mechanics it borrows? I think 3 would qualify as a lot, right?

Clamber, Sprint, ADS

Literally took one second, and I could definitely think of more if pressed.