So Im really excited for the Forward Unto Dawn. But my question is why did they choose that Armour for the Chief? It looks like the set from the “Package” which was weird and IMHO just so damn ugly. In fact I think it hampers the Cool factor of the Chief. I just wish we could keep a form or look to the chief that doesn’t change in every part of Halo lore. Halo CEA was awesome cause it still looked the same just better graphics(although the visor in CEA kinda looked off to me). Halo 2and 3 minor changes that I honestly did not pick up on until they were pointed out to me. Halo legends oh god the horror (minus a couple storys)… And Halo4 at first I was against the new look but now seeing to in game play it just looks more gritty and real(a good thing). But the Armour choice in Forward Unto Dawn… It looks cartoonsih… Why cant they stick to a design and keep it that way?
It is consistent with the lore. The beginning of Forward Unto Dawn appears be set during the time of MJOLNIR Mk.IV’s inception, which is what I’m guessing Chief is wearing. While I do believe it should be closer to what was in Halo Wars, it’s possible this variant of Mk.IV is a prototype or alternate variant.
Simply put, when going around different time periods, MJOLNIR IS different and has evolved.
I know what you mean… its a really strange choice for armor design. On one hand I kind of understand why 343i did it; consistency. The Package was a 343i endorsed animation and the Mk IV that the S-IIs was wearing was used in FUD in order to maintain that consistency. The problem I have with this decision is that we already have Mk IV Mjolnir from Halo Wars which, in my opinion, looks infinitely better and the game itself has much more canonical significance and weight than The Package.
I think 343i haven’t realised that most of us did not like The Package and most of us did not think much of that Mk IV. The issue with bringing something from The Package into live action filming is that the link between the two is now strengthened and quite frankly seeing the Mk IV in FUD makes me think of The Package… and that is a very bad association.
I actually liked The Package and all the other Halo Legends episodes. The Mjolnir Mk. IV seen in The Package, imo, is pretty damn good looking. As for the Halo Wars Mk. IV, I like it, but I just can’t picture it in live action. Don’t know why, just can’t. Like Cobra said, probably just different variants.
Hmmm, Interesting thought that it is just a different variant of MK IV. If that is that case then this is happening before the events of Halo CE and I would find it curious why this set looks so similar to MK VI. But then again looking at “Halo FoR : Covenant” Im seeing allot of similarities in the FUD variant as well as the comic and just suits as a whole look the same. Even one frame when Halsey is handing John-117 a helmet that to my eyes IS the MK-VI helmet even though then next frame is hes in a MK-V helmet.( just checked the dates to make sure… “FoR : Cov” issue date is for the MK-V. So im Kinda confused when this story(FUD) takes place, when that was supposed to be the II’s first experiences with MOJLNIR… 
Am I missing something?)
> Hmmm, Interesting thought that it is just a different variant of MK IV. If that is that case then this is happening before the events of Halo CE and I would find it curious why this set looks so similar to MK VI. But then again looking at “Halo FoR : Covenant” Im seeing allot of similarities in the suits as a whole. Even one frame when Halsey is handing John-117 a helmet that to my eyes IS the MK-VI helmet even though then next frame is hes in a MK-V helmet.
Then we have Team Black wearing prototype armor, Black concurrently during the Fall of Reach. Notice something familiar?
> > Hmmm, Interesting thought that it is just a different variant of MK IV. If that is that case then this is happening before the events of Halo CE and I would find it curious why this set looks so similar to MK VI. But then again looking at “Halo FoR : Covenant” Im seeing allot of similarities in the suits as a whole. Even one frame when Halsey is handing John-117 a helmet that to my eyes IS the MK-VI helmet even though then next frame is hes in a MK-V helmet.
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> Then we have Team Black wearing prototype armor, Black concurrently during the Fall of Reach. Notice something familiar?
I was editing my post while u responded lol added a little more info… Just lead me to be more confused on when John-117’s first deployment with MOJLNIR occurred.
“Hmmm, Interesting thought that it is just a different variant of MK IV. If that is that case then this is happening before the events of Halo CE and I would find it curious why this set looks so similar to MK VI. But then again looking at “Halo FoR : Covenant” Im seeing allot of similarities in the FUD variant as well as the comic and just suits as a whole look the same. Even one frame when Halsey is handing John-117 a helmet that to my eyes IS the MK-VI helmet even though then next frame is hes in a MK-V helmet.( just checked the dates to make sure… “FoR : Cov” issue date is for the MK-V. So im Kinda confused when this story(FUD) takes place, when that was supposed to be the II’s first experiences with MOJLNIR… Am I missing something?)”
> > > Hmmm, Interesting thought that it is just a different variant of MK IV. If that is that case then this is happening before the events of Halo CE and I would find it curious why this set looks so similar to MK VI. But then again looking at “Halo FoR : Covenant” Im seeing allot of similarities in the suits as a whole. Even one frame when Halsey is handing John-117 a helmet that to my eyes IS the MK-VI helmet even though then next frame is hes in a MK-V helmet.
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> > Then we have Team Black wearing prototype armor, Black concurrently during the Fall of Reach. Notice something familiar?
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> I was editing my post while u responded lol add a little more info… Just lead me to be more confused on when John-117’s first deployment with MOJLNIR occurred.
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> “Hmmm, Interesting thought that it is just a different variant of MK IV. If that is that case then this is happening before the events of Halo CE and I would find it curious why this set looks so similar to MK VI. But then again looking at “Halo FoR : Covenant” Im seeing allot of similarities in the FUD variant as well as the comic and just suits as a whole look the same. Even one frame when Halsey is handing John-117 a helmet that to my eyes IS the MK-VI helmet even though then next frame is hes in a MK-V helmet.( just checked the dates to make sure… “FoR : Cov” issue date is for the MK-V. So im Kinda confused when this story(FUD) takes place, when that was supposed to be the II’s first experiences with MOJLNIR… Am I missing something?)”
Its possible that The Package version is the original Mark IV armor, whereas the Halo Wars Mark IV is a later version or again, a different varriant. But the MJOLNIR Mark IV was put into service around 2525. So yeah, the beginning of the war.
John is wearing Mk.V in The Fall of Reach: Covenant. The Spartans were all wearing different helmets so I’m sure a prototype Mk.VI helmet would be among them, but it is Mk.V he is using.
> > Hmmm, Interesting thought that it is just a different variant of MK IV. If that is that case then this is happening before the events of Halo CE and I would find it curious why this set looks so similar to MK VI. But then again looking at “Halo FoR : Covenant” Im seeing allot of similarities in the suits as a whole. Even one frame when Halsey is handing John-117 a helmet that to my eyes IS the MK-VI helmet even though then next frame is hes in a MK-V helmet.
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> Then we have Team Black wearing prototype armor, Black concurrently during the Fall of Reach. Notice something familiar?
I was under the impression that MJOLNIR Black WASthe prototype for the actual MJOLNIR Mark. VI.
> > > Hmmm, Interesting thought that it is just a different variant of MK IV. If that is that case then this is happening before the events of Halo CE and I would find it curious why this set looks so similar to MK VI. But then again looking at “Halo FoR : Covenant” Im seeing allot of similarities in the suits as a whole. Even one frame when Halsey is handing John-117 a helmet that to my eyes IS the MK-VI helmet even though then next frame is hes in a MK-V helmet.
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> > Then we have Team Black wearing prototype armor, Black concurrently during the Fall of Reach. Notice something familiar?
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> I was under the impression that MJOLNIR Black WASthe prototype for the actual MJOLNIR Mark. VI.
It probably was, but since they were trapped on line Installation 1-4 , I don’t know how the results would make ti back to Earth where Mk.VI was field tested on Korea then given to Chief.
I loved the new Master Chief desing, it’s the same armor, with it’s scars and all. But it feels much more military and not like a fantasy knight with a cool armor. 343 explained the same as me on a meganize that they wanted to the new armro desing “feel more military first and cooler later.” This should explain a bit:
Forward Unto Dawn takes place 20+ years before Halo 4, in the beginning of the war.
Obvious from the other games and some stories, armor is customizable and there are different variants.
The armor the Chief is using is from The Package, a 343i creation. It is likely the Chief’s variant of Mk IV.
> I loved the new Master Chief desing, it’s the same armor, with it’s scars and all. But it feels much more military and not like a fantasy knight with a cool armor. 343 explained the same as me on a meganize that they wanted to the new armro desing “feel more military first and cooler later.” This should explain a bit:
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> Master Chief Creation
Is there a larger version of that picture? As in the full one? I havn’t seen it before and there’s obviously more after it cuts off at the bottom.
One thing we should take into consideration is the fact that MJOLNIR Armor isn’t just identified by its Mark but also by its Generation. This was how they explained the differences between the Master Chief’s Mark V Armor and Noble Team’s Mark V Armor. The one worn by Noble was GEN 1 (issued in November 2551) and the Master Chief wore GEN 2 (issued in August 2552).
I had read that the Spartan IVs in Halo 4 were also wearing a “cut down version of the Mark VI” and since then 343i has identified it as GEN 2 MJOLNIR Armor which could mean it is in fact MJOLNIR Mark VI GEN 2 and the Chief in Halo 2 and 3 wore Mark VI GEN 1 Armor. The Halo 4 page also identifies the Master Chief’s armor as GEN 1 MJOLNIR, albeit “heavily modified.”
What does this have to do with the Mark IV? Everything. We could always believe that what the Chief is wearing in Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn is simply Mark IV GEN 1 and the armor worn by Red Team in Halo Wars is Mark IV GEN 2. I believe the only real problem with this theory is that the Package takes place after Halo Wars and they still have GEN 1 style and in the Fall of Reach comic they were shown donning the Halo Wars style for the first time before FUD. So really it all comes down to artistic license.
Since FUD is the next big thing from 343i and has canon connections to Halo 4, I would say that “The Package” armor is Mark IV GEN 1 and the Halo Wars Armor is Mark IV GEN 2.
You will have to state your sources as I have not read such things.
It is possible that the armours have different specializations so he switches around some of them at times.
The Essential Visual Guide says the first Mark V armor was issued November 24th, 2551 and the updated version was issued in August 29th, 2552. The gameplay section of the Halo 4 page says that the Master Chief is wearing GEN 1 Armor and we already know it’s Mark VI so if they refer to the Spartan IV’s Armor as GEN 2 then we can put two and two together.
GEN 2 armour has only ever been mentioned in relation to the SPARTAN IVs. Indeed, the description of the GEN 2 armour suggests it was developed specifically for the SPARTAN-IV program and a key characteristic is its light weight. The Mark IV saw several generational design changes but it has been grouped with MJOLNIR Mark V, VI and VII as GEN 1 armours.
Remember that one of Halsey’s issues with MJOLNIR was the UNSC’s way of allocating money. She says in the journal that she plans to give “her Spartans” the best gear they can get regardless of UNSC budget allocation stuff.I think this is something to consider when looking at the time frames surrounding MJOLNIR armor.
> So what’s the story with Chief’s armor? Does that design work with canon/Halo Wars/book covers/everything else?
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> Totally works. That design, influenced heavily by the armor seen in The Package from Halo Legends, fits squarely within the Mark IV line of MJOLNIR armor (and all existing stories/depictions from that timeframe in the canon). <mark>Does it look exactly like the armor from Halo Wars? Nope, and that’s 100% okay. MJOLNIR armor is constantly evolving and having special variants developed, just like many other major weapons systems (fighter jets/helicopters/capital ships/tanks). There is no “one design only” for each generation of MJOLNIR, as it would lessen the scope of the MJOLNIR project to suggest that those scientists made one suit and then called it a day for a decade or so.</mark> But it is important that each generation shares similar characteristics and a signature look (as well as evokes the big-picture Master Chief gold visor/green armor/overall profile), and we think that this version of the armor works well on all fronts.
7.18.12 Halo bulletin
Guess I got it right.