I have noticed how players cling on to the idea that Halo should be an advantage based game well that needs to change im tired of somone having somthing that i dont!
I can understand power weapons yes of course! but thruster and abilitys should be a players choice and it represents his or hers style but making it an advantage over another is just pirat mentality lets make it a fair battle ground where spartans can show their own stregnths and not have to rely on others too much as it just becomes unrealistic also unballanced in the heat of the moment and in the ideal stituation in what a
spartan has to deal with.
Ultimatly not fair i wanna have the tools to do a good job! like most spartans i have an abundance of skill and technique with unparelel timings and fast pass coordination and awarness i mean we can go on an on lol but you know what i mean here ! without the movment im a sitting duck especially when you are out numbered and that also is a huge advantage that players want over others Spatans! holding hands to get an advantage
We need to counter that and give players the toools to deal with in those situations im tired of just getting out numberd and cant get away or make any diference or buy time lets say for regrouping with your team when you dont have time you have to make brave moves and you cant just give that space away so sometimes your left on your own players that are not in a team will just get out numberd buy a unit with mics! we need the tools to be strong on our own like real Spartan 117 lol why am i not allowed to be the player i wanna be?
Its just boring the movemnet is for slow minds with huge advantages no wonder people going crazy
When you give a player any abilitys becasue from the start they where being fed with adavntages!! no high level coordination needed at all and i am suprised halo chose to go in this direction. we need to give player the tools to thrive on their own and in there own time not be forced into picking up things that they dnt even wanna use and then to be dominated by advantages lol where is the sense in that ?
You have a post talking about making this a team game but now you’re mentioning being a sitting duck when it’s like 1v3, well if you played it like a team game you wouldn’t be out on your own getting stomped.
You keep mentioning tools but you’re not giving any examples, you only ever go on about the thruster in the majority of your posts as well, it’s not coming back as a standard feature, just turn and sprint away like everyone else does until their shields regenerate haha, if you’re surrounded a thruster isn’t going to save you.
Yes i am speaking for those players that do like using thruster so i think you have missed my point and from my experience thruster can get you out of trouble you just have to plan your postion but most importantly you can counter and get reversals i guess you never had one of those lol
So i guess running away should be your only option hahahah please stop LMAO
who said im getting stomped do you wanna show me how you have come to this conclusion?
You have again missed the point here unfortunatly i am talking about giving 1 person on his own more capability that matches his or her skill set lol instead of just running away with thruster you can counter anyways cheers for your feedback.
Dnt want it to be standard! players should be able to choose what equipment they would like to be asociated with
Will have to see about that buddy as its good for the game in many aspect that are apreciated by many top level players and casuals it gives the game more dynamic and players have more belief in themself’s going into a game which makes the game more popular . Belive it or not taking away the thruster like this and making it a pick up has been a destructive choice and after playing with it for like 10 years on halo 5 i feels its missed and should be reinstated with immediate effect
If its a team game then why am i allowed to search a 4v4 rank on my own with no mic ?? if your looking for contradictions then i have handed you the biggest of them all 343i went so far that you cant even hear anyone creeping from behind talk about destructive ! you have to rely on team talk even with randoms who dont have mics . I know we are trying to make a game that involves your team chemistry but this is not the way lmao
The takeaway: You just don’t like Arena Shooters, Halo is an Arena Shooter, therefore you don’t like Halo.
It seems you like Halo 4 and 5 the most but those are by far the worst Halo games. Sure their respective MPs are fun but they are very much not Halo. Halo 4 especially isn’t because its not even an Arena Shooter and Halo 5 is like all the CODs with advanced movement, it didn’t work in COD and it just doesn’t work in Halo.
If you like Halo games that play like you describe above go play Halo 4 playlists in the MCC because it sounds identical to what you are describing and i think you would enjoy it.
The Halo 5 mechanics really should have just been pushed into a new IP like the advanced movement in COD and Titanfall. It worked in Titanfall because the series was set up to operate with those mechanics but it failed in COD and Halo because COD and Halo already have a set feel they are going for and fans just want more of that with iterations which is fair.
There is a reason Halo 3 has the highest sales of any Halo game by far and why Infinite tried to innovate with Halo 3 as a base instead of any later Halo game.
Infinite feels like the sequel to H3 we have been waiting for and i would suggest not playing Arena Shooters since you seem to fundamentally hate how they work.
My comment was right on topic. You are asking Halo to change to not be an Arena Shooter anymore and to go back to thrusters which we only had by default in 1 game and it didn’t work.
You want Halo to fundamentally change back to things 343 already tried that didn’t work. I am telling you if you want that maybe Halo, and for that matter Arena Shooters, aren’t for you.
If you really want those things in the post there are a couple games titled Halo 4 and Halo 5: Guardians that you would probably enjoy.
Who says it didnt work because in my inviroment it was much loved so kind of confused here i can understand why people cant handle the heat that the thruster brings but is it right to not have that dynamic back as it was recieved so postively anyways you have made your point and i strongly disagree with you .
lol do you wanna show me why they are not for me you are not sounding that cool right now .
Wow all becasue of the thruster you are going crazy here you must of played a huge roll in getting rid of it LMAO if it was so bad why did it not get taken out of H5 we have been using it for like 10 years it is halo now stop it !
Im not saying start deplying all kinds of stuff its a thruster for counter movment whats wrong with that ? just seems like you have your own agendas based on your own capabilities your just expressing your lack of coordination and intensity sorry to say but this is how your coming across .
So this is something many Halo 4 and Halo 5 fans seem to fail to recognize. It was not received positively. At least not in the way you are thinking.
Sure people enjoyed it. Again i found it fun, but its just not what people wanted out of Halo. Halo should go for a certain feel and if you look at sales Halo 3 is the one that soars above the rest. Thats why 343 innovated off that multiplayer and left 4 and 5’s changes behind.
I was in a similar position to you with the Kirby games. I loved Kirby and the Amazing Mirror. Its one of my favorite games. Well after i got my switch i bought a Kirby game and it was nothing like The Amazing Mirror. I wondered why so i looked into it. Turns out The Amazing Mirror is the only Metroid-vania Kirby game.
I don’t go and argue for all Kirby games to be like The Amazing Mirror now. I understand that Kirby games play a certain way and thats what the fan base wants. Similarly this is how Halo 4 and 5 fans should be. They might like some aspects of those games but what made Halo popular and when it succeeded the most is when it was nothing like Halo 4 and Halo 5. It does stink to have a game series not turn out how you like it but coming into an established series and saying it should radically change doesn’t seem to work out well for anyone.
One of the biggest problems with Halo 4 and 5 is that they made new groups of fans that think Halo should always be like 4 and 5 when existing fans did not enjoy 4 and 5 near as much. Now we have different groups of Halo fans whose desires are directly counter to each other. This is why games should be very careful with radical changes because it just divides the fan base
Speak for yourself and others like you i guess! We have a big population of this kind or destructive mindset with personal agendas that suit them on the battle ground it unfortunate realy wanna change it with real honest positive feedback
What you are saying here is that you want to be able to choose your loadout. The base of an Arena Shooter is that there are no loadouts and everyone starts with the same equipment/abilities. Therefore you are saying that you don’t like Arena Shooters because you don’t like not being able to choose your loadouts.
And here come the “Skill issue” arguments.
Its not a skill issue i can assure you of that. I do love games that are very fast paced and Titanfall 2 is one of my favorite games and is way faster than Halo 5.
I already said it was fun just not what we wanted from Halo. I only don’t like it because it is Halo. If Halo 5 had been a new IP i would have loved the game and i would bet we would still have a new game with those mechanics. But due to it being a Halo game and killing off classic Halo gameplay for the then current Halo i didn’t enjoy it.
The sales speak for themselves. Halo 5 is no where near the top in sales for Halo. If you go back and look at the impact Halo had on gaming it peaked in Halo 3 in popularity and sales because of how great it was. I am just explaining why Halo Infinite tried to recapture that.
Your post asks “Why cant i be the players i wanna be let me choose the tools i wanna use” and i am giving you the arguments as to why you can’t do what you want to. It seems you just wanted a post where people just agree with you but i feel its almost always best to just tell the truth. Hope this gave you some insight into how 20+ year Halo fans feel.
I wrote this when Infinite came out because i saw others like you confused as to how/why Infinite became the game is.
absolutly rubbish what on earth are you going on about halo is not just going to be the same game over and over again it will have subtle differences again you just want to play halo 3 well just go play that then contradicting yourself libraly like no ones going to say how much nonsense you are speaking .
Not upset at all, i am quite happy to explain why what you want isn’t going to nor should it happen.
You seem really bothered by someone with a dissenting opinion even though your post asked for an answer…
I gave you the sales stats with similar examples from other game series that had similar outcomes.
All you have said is “I want it this way. Why can’t i have it this way?” and i answered that. Then you claimed i was off topic (i wasn’t), then you said it was a skill issue (it isn’t), now you are trying to claim i am upset when you are the one very clearly bothered with stats and facts about how Halo got where it is…
