Why can we not shoot while doing these things??

Is there any legit reason to not allow us to shoot while running, clambering, and thrusting? We can perform Slide, while shooting. I really think the only reason we have the animation of lowering the gun, is because immersion and that nearly every game forces you to stop sprinting to shoot.

The gaming industry (mainly FPSs) loves to play things safe, even the simplest thing I described is rarely seen. If they really cared about the immersion from animation, all they would have to do is make the Hud jiggle while sprinting, etc. Clamber would be more respected by me, if it was more similar to crouch jump, in that you always have free control of your aim.

People love saying we can’t have a running Spartan, but using that logic, Spartans magically gain intense Artharitis when pulling the trigger in the midst of certain animations o_O?

Think about your idea for a full minute. If you could run and shoot at the same time, then why would anyone bother walking and shooting? Everyone would just be running and gunning, literally.

Plus people already complain a ton about the inclusion of sprint to begin with.

This is one of those posts that I can’t tell if its sarcastic or not. If you could sprint while running no one would love at “normal” speed and the game would be incredibly altered. It would make it a bit harder to connect shots, too so that would peeve me.

Please explain the basic physics to me regarding how exactly a Spartan will “shoot his gun” while clambering?

Does the gun float? Or does the Spartan somehow shoot a shotgun or rocket launcher with one hand?

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> This is one of those posts that I can’t tell if its sarcastic or not. If you could sprint while running no one would love at “normal” speed and the game would be incredibly altered. It would make it a bit harder to connect shots, too so that would peeve me.

No one is forcing you to shoot. You are rewarded from taking advantage of it. Even then, people should still be smart enough to not recklessly sprint and shoot the entire map, especially with the nerfs to sprint. It can be done. It will still help the cat mouse problem some. Thruster still is very effective at getting into cover.

Lets not forget that Sprint doesn’t allow for equal speed in every direction, so it will not make movement speed useless. You’re still being punished for darting into a bad situation, yet can freely defend yourself. The complaints since Reach, about waiting for an animation will cease.

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> Please explain the basic physics to me regarding how exactly a Spartan will “shoot his gun” while clambering?
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> Does the gun float? Or does the Spartan somehow shoot a shotgun or rocket launcher with one hand?

Yes with one hand. You can cancel clambering effect and pop back out before fully going into/onto where you need. So it makes use of quick peekaboo shots to finish some one and leave. Also, I will add that you are given the ability to melee, shoot and grenade during the animation. :sunglasses:

Shooting while thrusting is really essential, imo. Thrusters are being only used as defensive ability, either to escape or reach a ledge. Adding the ability to shoot while using it will allow closing in on an opponent, gaining a bigger target to shoot at or a chance to melee.

Although I like the idea of cancelling clamber, the animations are too short to make any significant difference, which makes me wonder: why add it in the first place? It does nothing normal jumping can’t achieve.

Also, if they increased the base speed and removed sprint, there shouldn’t be any reason to be able to shoot while sprinting. There won’t sprint to begin with.

I think Halo needs the system that Evolve uses.

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> Think about your idea for a full minute. If you could run and shoot at the same time, then why would anyone bother walking and shooting? Everyone would just be running and gunning, literally.
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> Plus people already complain a ton about the inclusion of sprint to begin with.

Theyd stop sprinting so they can move in directions other than forward lol.

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> Shooting while thrusting is really essential, imo. Thrusters are being only used as defensive ability, either to escape or reach a ledge. Adding the ability to shoot while using it, well allow closing in on an opponent and gaining a bigger target to shoot at or a chance to melee.
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> Although like the idea of cancelling clamber, the animations are too short to make any significant difference, which makes me wonder: why add it in the first place? It does nothing normal jumping can’t achieve.
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> Also, if they increased the base speed and removed sprint, there shouldn’t be any reason to be able to shoot while sprinting. There won’t sprint to begin with.

Yeah, I thought about the clamber animation being quick enough to make it pointless, but was like ehh every shot, melee, or nade can make a difference.

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> Please explain the basic physics to me regarding how exactly a Spartan will “shoot his gun” while clambering?
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> Does the gun float? Or does the Spartan somehow shoot a shotgun or rocket launcher with one hand?

Only takes one finger to pull a trigger. :slight_smile:

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> Although like the idea of cancelling clamber, the animations are too short to make any significant difference, which makes me wonder: why add it in the first place? It does nothing normal jumping can’t achieve.

It kinda does.

Forcing me to put down my gun weakens me significantly. Sprint should just get cut and clamber and thruster shouldn’t restrict shooting an any way.

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> > Although like the idea of cancelling clamber, the animations are too short to make any significant difference, which makes me wonder: why add it in the first place? It does nothing normal jumping can’t achieve.
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Don’t see what you’re trying to prove.

>Jump could’ve been made with higher jump height.*
>Jump could’ve been made with altered map design.
>Jump could’ve been made with thruster.
>Jump could’ve been made with ground pound.

*(which can be obtained through both tweaking the height value or simply letting people crouch jump)

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> Please explain the basic physics to me regarding how exactly a Spartan will “shoot his gun” while clambering?
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> Does the gun float? Or does the Spartan somehow shoot a shotgun or rocket launcher with one hand?

The gun is already held upward in the current animation, but it still doesnt let the player shoot. Hell, you can just change the animation to just a short thruster up and over when you press the clamber button, that way I can do it without having to look at the ledge I’m clambering, giving power back to the player instead of making him vulnerable for the sake of immersion.

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It achieved something normal jumping can’t achieve. That much is clear.

> >Jump could’ve been made with altered map design.
> >Jump could’ve been made with thruster.
> >Jump could’ve been made with ground pound.

How is that in any way relevant when discussing what Clamber can and can’t do compared to jumping?

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> Please explain the basic physics to me regarding how exactly a Spartan will “shoot his gun” while clambering?
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> Does the gun float? Or does the Spartan somehow shoot a shotgun or rocket launcher with one hand?

Marines and Spartans do it on a mongoose

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> > Please explain the basic physics to me regarding how exactly a Spartan will “shoot his gun” while clambering?
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Though it requires two hands to hold, aim and fire a rocket launcher.

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Refer to post above yours

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> > >Jump could’ve been made with altered map design.
> > >Jump could’ve been made with thruster.
> > >Jump could’ve been made with ground pound.
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I think you should answer that. He just proved you claims wrong, that clamber doesn’t achieve anything new.