Why can I only turn off cross input with solo/duo?

Why can’t I party up with 3 other friends and turn off crossplay?
I like to play with players of my own platform and input for the fairest experience.
Yet 343 have decided to only let me do that If I play with 1 friend?
Why can’t I do this with a full party? Makes no sense…
Anyone know why?

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Solo/Duo does not turn off crossplay, it simply limits input method.

Many play on Controller but on PC FYI.

That being said its meant for MKB users, so they can compete.

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Edited my post to reflect it’s input.
My question still stands.

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No idea. It’s pretty stupid.

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Huh? It’s a fact playing on KBM is easier than playing with a controller. This is common knowledge for every FPS game ever.

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For MKB Lol sorry but no…

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I would also love to know the reasoning behind this. The debate of M&K vs Controller will always be ongoing, but we can all agree that the 2 inputs are not on even playing fields. I would be absolutely fine keeping crossplay in for social (or even just having the OPTION in ranked), but why on Earth they force 4 stacks into crossplay is beyond me.

Oh really? how many pros use KBM? None. Not even the EU/ANZ/MX ones.

Controller is better in this game frankly. The aim assist makes high level and lower level players consistently better than KBM players.

Watch videos about it. Information is out there.

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I just want to play against other pc players only. I feel like 90% of the stuff that really annoys me is due to the Xbox and pc versions of the game not communicating properly.

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Totally irrelevant. Halo has always been a controller dominant FPS. What “pros” use (or not) has nothing to do with what is easier to game with.

This isn’t even a point of contention - it’s a fact KBM is easier to aim/use than a controller.

I’ve seen several videos on this whole “aim assist” debacle. While I do think something is off with aiming, these videos, in no way, “prove” that aim assist is “better” with a controller. Further, fights in Infinite are much more complicated than shooting someone standing still. Players jump, strafe, evade, etc. like crazy during gun fights - power weapons, grenades, etc. all play a role as well - this strange argument that it’s “easier” to play Infinite with a controller (than KBM) is an absolute denial of reality itself. There is far more to winning in Infinite than just aiming alone.

You are straight-up wrong here, and it’s not even close. Anyone who has played video games knows this to be true - KBM is easier to use than controller.

Yeah okay buddy, nice high horse you got there.

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Are you purposefully being obtuse? In what world does pointing out a simple fact put me on a “high horse”?

This has nothing to do with what people prefer, this has everything to do with facing reality. Not entirely sure why you insist on taking this personally.

I also do not like having a separate solo/duo vs full stack rank either by the way, on top of the issue of forcing full stacks to be cross-input

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LMAO, you’re an idiot dude. GO look at the statistics. Middle of the pact controller players have Accuracy as high as the Top MNK players. Even Snipedown explains this, matter of fact; all the halo pros say this.

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I’ve been playing games for 20 years, it is extremely insulting to imply I don’t know what I’m talking about. The arguments you are using I have used in other games (Gears of War 5) but I believe that they are two completely different series and that being able to 180 degree really fast doesn’t mean squat in Halo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjndtATgybM

The only two advantages I realistically see with MKB is ability to pull of ninjas and Sniping, aside from that it simply isn’t enough to really beat a controller player consistently. Pros hit 60% accuracy often, you seriously think that a MKB player can somehow outbeat that? No. Now if they nerf the aim assist (decrease it, in other words) then it would even things out, but as it stands now controllers dominate.

Aim assist is pretty nuts honestly from my personal experience, it almost seems like wall hacks where it’ll start even before an enemy spartan has moved out of cover…

I see all of your statistics, your facts, and your reasoning, and I want nothing to do with them :joy_cat:

I had to. For comedic effect :pray:

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Thanks for jumping into a conversation that you have not followed - you are like a lost child, wandering into a movie that’s already started, pretending to know what has already happened.

There is much more to Halo than just aiming. All the Halo pros are controller players - they have no idea what high level PC playing looks like. Pit a controller player against a PC/KBM player (of equal skill) and the PC/KBM player wins. Again, this goes far beyond aiming - account for things like strafing, reaction time, quick adjustments, etc. It’s bizarre that people (like you) completely ignore every single variable that’s involved, except for aiming.

It’s crazy that I need to keep repeating myself here… there is far more to winning a Halo match than just aiming. It’s strange you are making the claim that quick reaction times (i.e., the ability to do “180 degree”) “doesn’t mean squat in Halo.” You really believe that?

You go on to admit that there are advantages to KBM - sniping (huge in high-level play), ninjas, etc. - all of which have to be accounted for. Again, aiming, by itself, is meaningless. Taking everything into consideration makes it obvious that KBM have an edge (with all things being equal).

Controller players do not “dominate” - this is an assumption you are making based off of observing high level Halo players, whom have all grown-up playing Halo on controller. With the introduction of cross-play, we will see a rise in PC/KBM players absolutely destroying controller players. This is inevitable, as Infinite’s playerbase expands.

Don’t you wonder why pro PC gamers don’t use a controller in other competitive FPS games? Why do you think that is?

Halo has always been a controller dominant game - that is the only reason you see “more” pro controller players than KBM players. This will change.

It’d be interesting to see what the ranking stats look like - win %, ranks, etc. comparing controller to KBM - I hope 343 releases this data. Until then, we can only speculate (and draw on real life experience).

Dude is trolling… you seriously think that the Halo pros have no experience with KBM? Do not follow any other Esports?

MKB is allowed in pro play, if it gave such a huge advantage why hasn’t every single pro already switched? You seriously think pros wouldn’t use the best input method? For what reasons?

Yeah Sniper is on one map, two technically if you count Shock Rifle. Even if you had a KBM pro that hit all yes ALL of their shots, was the best sniper in Halo history, the reality is that someone could just throw it off map, rendering that small advantage null.

Also, stop lumping together PC and MKB. Those are two seperate things. PC dominates in every game (besides maybe Switch games? Idk) because of superior hardware performance. Every single Halo pro (every pro period) uses PC for this reason. You can hook up a MKB to an Xbox if you wanted to so coupling those two things together is dumb.

Bold statement. Looking like it will only go downhill from here, considering how lackluster Infinite’s offerings are.

Its not more, its all. I know for sure none of the top 8 teams had any MKB players. If you can find any MKB players in top 32 (which basically means they just attended at that point) let me know.

Anyways dude, if you are so confident in this why not get a MKB yourself? “Dominate the competition” as you so proclaimed.

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controller is so much easier. they give you a free 50% accuracy with your aimbot. i mean aim assist. i know because i always play fps with kbm but for halo i am definitely better with controller. its just a noob friendly input made for noobs

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