What benefit is there over us picking from any set of colors we want from launch? I dont understand it personally, just seems to gatekeep customisation and is 343 telling me how my spartan should look. Did not like it in destiny dont like it here.
Imo its 100x better if you let us pick what flat colors we want and have various patterns and a mix of colors as your shaders which you can do whatever with, just please let us choose if we want to be black and white from launch just as an example.
More money in 343’s pocket this way.
yup sadly in F2P its all about making that money back. I just wish they would let us have the color palette back but instead the coatings they give out in the battle pass and as unlocks just have cool designs on them n -Yoink- kinda like the differences in the level of armor in H5 but cooler. Oh well I will still be giving Halo my full attention and petty cash fund.
I dont know
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> What benefit is there over us picking from any set of colors we want from launch? I dont understand it personally, just seems to gatekeep customisation and is 343 telling me how my spartan should look. Did not like it in destiny dont like it here.
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> Imo its 100x better if you let us pick what flat colors we want and have various patterns and a mix of colors as your shaders which you can do whatever with, just please let us choose if we want to be black and white from launch just as an example.
On the one hand, I love the armor coatings because they introduce concepts such as wear state, material, and pattern. On the other hand, they appear to be one size fits all and cover the whole spartan. My issue with that is that I see a ton of personalisation disappearing from that. You will likely see popular coatings rise up and suddenly everyone in the game is going to look the same. If we had it on a piece by piece basis, it would at least allow for more variety.
I struggle to not see this as a money grab, especially when 343 also made the change to make the armor coatings visible in multi-player.
I really don’t want to see this end up going down the road of Fortnite or more realistically Destiny, where people rock the shiniest, most flamboyant armor possible. I love the military, structured appearance of Spartans.
Money. That is literally the only reason. The game was going ftp and they had to decide what kind of systems would need to be in place to support monetization of the product. One of the easiest things to do is do colors. There are a few routes they could have gone with that, 1 being the system they went with (custom coatings that basically follow color theory to make sure all colors look good in some manner, thus making them more appealing to all players), and 2 being they sell colors individually while also allowing players to choose the color combo.
They went with the former given it gives them control over the general look of players, allowing them to essentially keep a consistent look which is then used for marketing in order too further sales. While Halo is very “gamey” and some would call cartoony, it very much falls into the more “realistic” end of that spectrum. 343 can now always be sure to keep that idea or remove it entirely at their will instead of by the player, all while making stuff cool enough to incentivize a purchase. I know that all sounds very tin hatty, but anyone with knowledge of marketing would know how almost everything is done for a specific reason.
Is this good or bad? Who knows and I personally don’t really care. The only real important things they need to do with this system is 1, make sure they have a base color coating for the main colors by default (no unlocking these). 2, make sure there are coatings that can be earned without the need of a BP or additional purchase. If they do both of these, players will accept the system. They may not like it, but they will accept it.
The game is F2P and they have to pay the people designing them throughout the life of the game. This isn’t new to the industry at all.
shame
Free-to-play gaming model plus flavor-of the day gaming strategies equal… this and other items like weapon charms.
How else are shareholders supposed to buy a second storage mansion?
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> What benefit is there over us picking from any set of colors we want from launch? I dont understand it personally, just seems to gatekeep customisation and is 343 telling me how my spartan should look. Did not like it in destiny dont like it here.
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> Imo its 100x better if you let us pick what flat colors we want and have various patterns and a mix of colors as your shaders which you can do whatever with, just please let us choose if we want to be black and white from launch just as an example.
Customised skins are 100 times better than boring flat colours.
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> More money in 343’s pocket this way.
Yes, and therefore more content for Infinite for it’s 10 year cycle.
The benefit is that the coating system can be applied by 343i to every single object in the game. They can use coatings to dictate the colors of fusion coils, crates, enemies, marine armor, trees, walls etc.
Basically, applying the shader system to the entire game gives them far more freedom to make unique looking maps and characters than ever before. And we can also apply them to weapons and vehicles to make out gear match our character or just go with what we think looks cool on a ghost or BR.
The side effect being that it also means our Spartans are covered under the coating umbrella. The entire game is coded like this so the classic color selection option is pretty much a no-go. Unless you want the only coatings ever released to be the basic 2-color combinations from past games.
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> > More money in 343’s pocket this way.
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> Yes, and therefore more content for Infinite for it’s 10 year cycle.
I view that as a bit of a fallacy. No doubt in my mind they would have no issue monetizing the game without the introduction of coatings. There are more than a dozen other cosmetics to choose from. Sure now they will be adding more content, but of portion of that content is just going to be colors that we’ve had by default in the past.
For that matter they could have also split up coatings into different layers and monetize them even more. Colors, pattern, and texture could have been 3 separate cosmetics.
As is, I just hope I can find a coating I like. I have a feeling they won’t have my prefered combination and for the first time since halo 2 I’ll be forced to settle for a color scheme I don’t like. It’s likely going to take several years to give us a comparable level of customization with coatings.
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> Unless you want the only coatings ever released to be the basic 2-color combinations from past games.
Ngl I hope that those base combinations make up a significant amount of coatings in the game. I’m all for more intricate designs but I really want some simple primary/secondary ones as well. A good selection of them at that. I fear that we are either going to have to use solid colors or settle for quirky designs for the most part. And over time they will probably just get crazier looking.
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> > Unless you want the only coatings ever released to be the basic 2-color combinations from past games.
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> Ngl I hope that those base combinations make up a significant amount of coatings in the game. I’m all for more intricate designs but I really want some simple primary/secondary ones as well. A good selection of them at that. I fear that we are either going to have to use solid colors or settle for quirky designs for the most part. And over time they will probably just get crazier looking.
I just want to remain cobalt and steel. I don’t need to be a walking pizza.
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> Yes, and therefore more content for Infinite for it’s 10 year cycle.
That’s a good way of looking at it! The coating system can be greatly expanded on if 343 sticks to their plan for the game’s life cycle.
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> > What benefit is there over us picking from any set of colors we want from launch? I dont understand it personally, just seems to gatekeep customisation and is 343 telling me how my spartan should look. Did not like it in destiny dont like it here.
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> > Imo its 100x better if you let us pick what flat colors we want and have various patterns and a mix of colors as your shaders which you can do whatever with, just please let us choose if we want to be black and white from launch just as an example.
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> Customised skins are 100 times better than boring flat colours.
You can literally have both. Next!
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> I love the military, structured appearance of Spartans.
What about the pink spartans in CE? Or the pink and bright yellow of 2 with cat emblems on their shoulder? I get the whole realism thing but there’s been the option to look funny since Halo started. Saying there shouldn’t be an option in Infinite to have pink armor then since it’s not military-like?
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> > I love the military, structured appearance of Spartans.
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> What about the pink spartans in CE? Or the pink and bright yellow of 2 with cat emblems on their shoulder? I get the whole realism thing but there’s been the option to look funny since Halo started. Saying there shouldn’t be an option in Infinite to have pink armor then since it’s not military-like?
No, I am fine with quirky armor colors. I am just hoping we don’t end up with disco lights and rainbow Spartans exclusively. Most games I play that introduce skins or shaders ends up with people either trying to look as gaudy as possible or as flamboyant as possible. I recognize that I may be in the minority but I just prefer armor colors to reasonably feel like something a spartan would possibly wear and make sense in the universe. It also was less of an issue in past games because you pretty much never saw other Spartans armor colors outside of FFA.