Halo fans have always had a love of personalization and customizations… so why are Armor Coatings a thing in Halo Infinite? Like seriously, with every success in customization that 343 makes; they tend to take an unnecessary step back in some department.
Halo Reach-to-Halo 4 = we lost the ability to add attachments to our armor, but with the added bonus of actually changing the armor itself rather than just augmenting the base plating. - Halo 4-to-MCC at Launch = No more mix-&-matching for any of the armories presented for Halo 3 and Halo 4. Also no DLC armors or alternate skins for Halo 4. - Halo 4-to-Halo 5 Guardians = We added 59 new armor sets and a LOT more paintjobs, and we added in assets that were unable to be implemented in Halo 4 due to crunch time. BUUUUT, we took away the diverse mix-&-match in favor of letting you select your helmet and then your full body. We also didn’t include 8 of the Halo 4 armor sets for some reason (EOD, HAZOP, Mark V, Oceanic, ODST, Prefect, Ricochet, & Vanguard), the Halo 2 Anniversary armor sets (Centurion and Hoplite), nor did we include the scrapped Hayabusa armor that we cut from Halo 4. But hey, we added a full color pallet! : - Halo 5 Guardians-to-Halo Infinite = Okay… so… we heard your feedback and provided a LOT of hotfixes to the MCC, and we are making Halo Infinite a sort of hybrid between Halo 4 and Halo Reach’s customization styles… BUUUUUUUT we decided to copy Destiny’s color presets for some reason. Have fun trying to clan-up with your buddies or get the color combo you want. We might not even provide the color combo you are looking for.
Why armour coatings ? Answer is monetisation imo. I believe they are going to egregiously monetise coatings and colours. Sure… There will be plenty to unlock but will it include full sets with matching colours ? I smell a big rat with coatings and colours.
I’m not against coatings, I’ve seen a couple of good sets but I won’t bother with them because of the colours. We need more info but I’ll say it again, there will be more bombshells with this imho. I think the coatings and colours will be heavily monetised.
If we could colour the coatings I would be less suspicious, but they’ve taken that from us too.
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> Sadly what makes microtransactions necessary once your game becomes too big.
Yes, considering the F2P nature of the title of course they need to monetize somewhere, they don’t work just for fun.
The only thing left to see now is how much predatory this system will be.
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> I sense that REQs will return in a sense.
> Microtransactions are a necessary evil when it comes to making the modern Triple-A title.
The already stated no loot crates. Micro transactions are not necessary, many games and developers do fine without them. This is about greed imo. Many of us are ok with the coatings, and would buy a few if we could colour them, I will not spend a single cent on them after they revealed we cannot colour them.
How will this affect my gaming experience ? I guarantee that I will not be grinding / playing for rewards that do not appeal to me. This is one topic I need clarity on and 343i have been very quiet about it. I’ll accept they need to monetise the free to play, but to remove our choice of colour is a step to far for me.
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> Yes, considering the F2P nature of the title of course they need to monetize somewhere, they don’t work just for fun.
True, free to plays require Microtransactions of some nature to make a profit. But even now with a Triple-A title that you pay money to buy it initially, microtransactions have become a necessity for many studios to make their game profitable. However, some studios (EA and Activision are prime examples) abuse the microtransactions. Especially when it comes to duplicate cosmetics. Here’s hoping that Halo Infinite follows Halo 5 Guardians’ REQ system a little bit, making sure that cosmetics are never able to be award duplicates when you lootbox roll.
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> > I sense that REQs will return in a sense.
> > Microtransactions are a necessary evil when it comes to making the modern Triple-A title.
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> The already stated no loot crates. Micro transactions are not necessary, many games and developers do fine without them. This is about greed imo. Many of us are ok with the coatings, and would buy a few if we could colour them, I will not spend a single cent on them after they revealed we cannot colour them.
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> How will this affect my gaming experience ? I guarantee that I will not be grinding / playing for rewards that do not appeal to me. This is one topic I need clarity on and. 343i have been very quiet about. I’ll accept they need to monetise the free to play, but to remove our choice of colour is a step to far for me.
They have made bad decisions with just about every one of the games they have released. I wouldn’t be surprised to have to pay for a skin-pack JUST to get the color combo you want.
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> > > I sense that REQs will return in a sense.
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> > The already stated no loot crates. Micro transactions are not necessary, many games and developers do fine without them. This is about greed imo. Many of us are ok with the coatings, and would buy a few if we could colour them, I will not spend a single cent on them after they revealed we cannot colour them.
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> > How will this affect my gaming experience ? I guarantee that I will not be grinding / playing for rewards that do not appeal to me. This is one topic I need clarity on and. 343i have been very quiet about. I’ll accept they need to monetise the free to play, but to remove our choice of colour is a step to far for me.
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> I wouldn’t be surprised to have to pay for a skin-pack JUST to get the color combo you want.
That is exactly what will happen imo. Like I said above, I would trust and back them if we could colour the coatings, but we cannot. It looks like they’re going to egregiously monetise a basic customisation feature we’ve had since day one, I’m sorry but that does not sit well with me.
I’m looking forward to seeing what they do, instead of the boring Primary and Secondary flat colours might start getting different effects and materials. Camo, carbon fibre, brushed steel etc.
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> I’m looking forward to seeing what they do, instead of the boring Primary and Secondary flat colours might start getting different effects and materials. Camo, carbon fibre, brushed steel etc.
A better colorization system would be something that is a hybrid between Mass Effect and Halo. Let us pick our armor’s paintjob, Primary and Secondary Color, and then choose how the armor is shined or dirtied by the battles you go through. The coatings are literally “we did that for you. We decided not only where the color goes, but also how it is polished on your armor”.
A sequel should NEVER regress a system that has seen consistent progress over the years
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> I’m looking forward to seeing what they do, instead of the boring Primary and Secondary flat colours might start getting different effects and materials. Camo, carbon fibre, brushed steel etc.
But they can still do that and give us the option to colour or tint. What’s wrong with me adding a purple metallic to a certain coating. Oh forgot… Money. There is no valid reason to remove our abilty to colour coatings.
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> > I’m looking forward to seeing what they do, instead of the boring Primary and Secondary flat colours might start getting different effects and materials. Camo, carbon fibre, brushed steel etc.
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> But they can still do that and give us the option to colour or tint. What’s wrong with me adding a purple metallic to a certain coating. Oh forgot… Money.
A better option would be what they had in Halo 4 and Halo 5 Guardians :
Let us obtain alternate PAINTJOBS and THEN choose how to color them!
Why I understand and agree that armor coatings could be made while also allowing players to choose their own colors. (by that I mean, have coatings be motifs and texture)
I don’t understand while some of you talk about REQs when 343i already said “no lootbox”. We most likely will get a store where you can buy coatings or pack of coatings but not RNG lootboxes, so stop talking about it because it can mislead some people.
And that means there also won’t be players getting a duplicate because it won’t be obtainable in a REQ pack or whatever.
Also, it’s hard to talk about a system when we haven’t seen how it work and the information we have about it are super vague.
I’ve seen someone (not here) said they were afraid that MTX wouldn’t be coatings only but also armor pieces and that gave me chills because I don’t want to see my favorite helmet behind paywall but I think 343i will only monetize coatings after all coatings aren’t only for armor but also for vehicules and weapons.
I think for now, we can only hope it won’t be super bad but if it is, I hope the backlash won’t hurt the game if it’s really awesome to play.
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> Why I understand and agree that armor coatings could be made while also allowing players to choose their own colors.
> I don’t understand while some of you talk about REQs when 343i already said “no lootbox”. We most likely will get a store where you can buy coatings or pack of coatings but not RNG lootboxes, so stop talking about it because it can mislead some people.
> And that means there also won’t be players getting a duplicate because it won’t be obtainable in a REQ pack or whatever.
> Also, it’s hard to talk about a system when we haven’t seen how it work and the information we have about it are super vague.
> I’ve seen someone (not here) said they were afraid that MTX wouldn’t be coatings only but also armor pieces and that gave me chills because I don’t want to see my favorite helmet behind paywall but I think 343i will only monetize coatings after all coatings aren’t only for armor but also for vehicules and weapons.
> I think for now, we can only hope it won’t be super bad but if it is, I hope the backlash won’t hurt the game if it’s really awesome to play.
I was merely referencing the fact that unlike other companies, 343’s microtransaction system in Halo 5 Guardians was 1000x better than any other on the market. So I am hoping they keep that trend of “somewhat likeable microtransactions” alive
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> > Why I understand and agree that armor coatings could be made while also allowing players to choose their own colors.
> > I don’t understand while some of you talk about REQs when 343i already said “no lootbox”. We most likely will get a store where you can buy coatings or pack of coatings but not RNG lootboxes, so stop talking about it because it can mislead some people.
> > And that means there also won’t be players getting a duplicate because it won’t be obtainable in a REQ pack or whatever.
> > Also, it’s hard to talk about a system when we haven’t seen how it work and the information we have about it are super vague.
> > I’ve seen someone (not here) said they were afraid that MTX wouldn’t be coatings only but also armor pieces and that gave me chills because I don’t want to see my favorite helmet behind paywall but I think 343i will only monetize coatings after all coatings aren’t only for armor but also for vehicules and weapons.
> > I think for now, we can only hope it won’t be super bad but if it is, I hope the backlash won’t hurt the game if it’s really awesome to play.
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> I was merely referencing the fact that unlike other companies, 343’s microtransaction system in Halo 5 Guardians was 1000x better than any other on the market. So I am hoping they keep that trend of “somewhat likeable microtransactions” alive
I agree but also I disagree, REQs had two main problems (IMO):
First problem is the nearly but not, pay to win factor. While it was only used for Warzone and Warzone: Firefight, it was still bad because if you were a new player and go directly to Warzone you would be at a disadvantage against those that can spawn an Hydra or the Prophets’ Bane.
Second problem is the super random all in one pack. I mean, we had bronze, silver and gold packs but they were super random, you either have luck or no luck and you can spend a lot of time getting what you want in those so it’s quite a grind for those that don’t spend money on REQs.
I think 343i should have made REQs for customization separated from the rest. It could have been a REQs that cost as much as the silver pack (5000 req points) for the amount of cards of the bronze pack and a REQs that cost as much as a gold pack (10 000 req points) for the amount of cards of the bronze pack but with higher chances of getting high rarity armor but you can’t get common or uncommon armor inside because those are lower rarity.
But yeah if 343i manage to make MTX not upsetting, it would be cool. I hope they will.
Money is the only thing I can think of why they would lock patterns/textures/colours to a coating instead of just letting you use them freely. They better have a nice selection unlocked by default.
It’s simple, and literally everyone in this thread gets it… MONEY
No loot crates, no req cards and quite possibly no microtransactions. Instead we get Season Passes and we all know those that buy the season pass need extra bonus coatings armour/weapon/vehicle. Also Microsoft partners need giveaways for promotional sales, so armour coatings are a marketing ploy that will generate money after sales have started to drop off.