why are TU game in multible playlists?

there is a title updae playlist??? so why is the title update in diffrent playlists

It’s more balanced and fair. The game play is better. Pretty much…It’s just better.

IMO

The TU playlist has the zero bloom + TU settings.
In the other playlists you only have 85% bloom + TU settings.

Plus what the guy above me said.

Because of this Opinion: Player Metrics Vs. The Vocal Minority

> It’s more balanced and fair. The game play is better. Pretty much…It’s just better.
>
> IMO

not every one likes the title update thats why it should stay in its own playlist

> Because of this Opinion: Player Metrics Vs. The Vocal Minority

every time i look at the forums i see 5 pro-tu threads and 1 pro-vanilla thread, meaning you guys are an even more smaller minority with alot more locality, so by your reasoning we should ignore what you guys are saying.

> > Because of this Opinion: Player Metrics Vs. The Vocal Minority
>
> every time i look at the forums i see 5 pro-tu threads and 1 pro-vanilla thread, meaning you guys are an even more smaller minority with alot more locality, so by your reasoning we should ignore what you guys are saying.

Not in my case, I’ve seen plenty of comments in favour of changing the TU. Usually ignored with no rebuttals.
Default Reach wasn’t perfect, but there were other ways it could have been balanced even before the TU. The TU was really only for MLG and self-titled “pro” players. Even so, the people who liked “Vanilla Reach” (even though saying Vanilla inplies lack of anything else) would be spending their time playing the game rather then complaining on the forums.

and when the Feb update was announced, there came a flood of complaints, much more in a shorter time then pro-TU threads.

TU playlist has ZB at the moment. Very few prefer Vanilla Reach now, hence TU taking over. =)))

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not every one likes the title update thats why it should stay in its own playlist
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I agree!!!

> > > Because of this Opinion: Player Metrics Vs. The Vocal Minority
> >
> > every time i look at the forums i see 5 pro-tu threads and 1 pro-vanilla thread, meaning you guys are an even more smaller minority with alot more locality, so by your reasoning we should ignore what you guys are saying.
>
> Not in my case, I’ve seen plenty of comments in favour of changing the TU. Usually ignored with no rebuttals.
> Default Reach wasn’t perfect, but there were other ways it could have been balanced even before the TU. The TU was really only for MLG and self-titled “pro” players. Even so, the people who liked “Vanilla Reach” (even though saying Vanilla inplies lack of anything else) would be spending their time playing the game rather then complaining on the forums.
>
> and when the Feb update was announced, there came a flood of complaints, much more in a shorter time then pro-TU threads.

to satisfy the pro’s? Your saying everyone complaining about reach are mlg’s pro? I’m flattered but no, there are real complains and imo if bloom was properly implemented, it wouldn’t let you shoot until your reticle had reset, otherwise its just spam friendly

> > not every one likes the title update thats why it should stay in its own playlist
>
> I agree!!!

its a TU meaning its across the whole game…

> to satisfy the pro’s? Your saying everyone complaining about reach are mlg’s pro? I’m flattered but no, there are real complains and imo if bloom was properly implemented, it wouldn’t let you shoot until your reticle had reset, otherwise its just spam friendly

No, I’m saying a lot of people like to give themselves that title to feel better about thier self-esteem.

Yes, there are real complaints. I did say that. But even before the update we could have adjusted the settings to better balance the game. The update was mainly to appease the MLG players complaining about and threatening to take Reach off the circuit. Even worse, they didn’t update other problems, like the Banshee bomb or Scorpion tank.

The complaints about bloom mainly apply to one gun, the DMR (and Magnum and NR to a lesser degree). If you play Reach without those weapons then who would be complaining about bloom? Besides, there were other ways we could have explored balancing those weapons out and rewarding pacers.

> > to satisfy the pro’s? Your saying everyone complaining about reach are mlg’s pro? I’m flattered but no, there are real complains and imo if bloom was properly implemented, it wouldn’t let you shoot until your reticle had reset, otherwise its just spam friendly
>
> No, I’m saying a lot of people like to give themselves that title to feel better about thier self-esteem.
>
> Yes, there are real complaints. I did say that. But even before the update we could have adjusted the settings to better balance the game. The update was mainly to appease the MLG players complaining about and threatening to take Reach off the circuit. Even worse, they didn’t update other problems, like the Banshee bomb or Scorpion tank.
>
> The complaints about bloom mainly apply to one gun, the DMR (and Magnum and NR to a lesser degree). If you play Reach without those weapons then who would be complaining about bloom? Besides, there were other ways we could have explored balancing those weapons out and rewarding pacers.

There could but all im saying people say with the tu is lets revert back to it instead of actually thinking of ways of making it work, no one tried to change the settings before and people tried to shut down the complains, sorry but idon’t see anyone else then you admit there is problems with vanilla reach

Maybe it’s because…

TU > Vanilla

And maybe because…

TU is closer to normal Halo than Reach… :0

> > > Because of this Opinion: Player Metrics Vs. The Vocal Minority
> >
> > every time i look at the forums i see 5 pro-tu threads and 1 pro-vanilla thread, meaning you guys are an even more smaller minority with alot more locality, so by your reasoning we should ignore what you guys are saying.
>
> Not in my case, I’ve seen plenty of comments in favour of changing the TU. Usually ignored with no rebuttals.
> Default Reach wasn’t perfect, but there were other ways it could have been balanced even before the TU. The TU was really only for MLG and self-titled “pro” players. Even so, the people who liked “Vanilla Reach” (even though saying Vanilla inplies lack of anything else) would be spending their time playing the game rather then complaining on the forums.
>
> and when the Feb update was announced, there came a flood of complaints, much more in a shorter time then pro-TU threads.

God -Yoink!- Neo -_-

By “MLG and self titled pro players” you’re actually referring to anyone who is good at Halo and knows how Halo is supposed to play. That way of playing being the reason Halo is as famous as it is, and why 75% of us “self titled pros” even picked up the game in the first place.

Also, I disagree on your belief of the community proportions. I think we can both agree that 75+ % of the community wouldn’t even notice the changes. Then there are the "hardcore “high skilled” players , and the hardcore “lower skilled” players (pro meaning in support of, not professional). I honestly think that they split that 25% pretty equally. Maybe the there’s a little more on each side, but your believe that players like yourself make up the overwhelming majority the that 25%, I think, is pretty wrong. Again I don’t have hard evidence though, this is just based on my experience of Halo.

> > It’s more balanced and fair. The game play is better. Pretty much…It’s just better.
> >
> > IMO
>
> not every one likes the title update thats why it should stay in its own playlist

I agree. At the VERY least you could give us our own playlist.