They added in Holiday Social for a limited time and now it’s gone. Even then that wasn’t really social as it used the exact same matchmaking parametres as ranked.
Same goes with unranked BTB. It uses the same matchmaking as ranked BTB did. What’s the point? Some people cannot even find games because their rank is too high in a so called “social” playlist.
So, where are the real social playlists? Where is Social Slayer with loosened matchmaking parametres that allow everyone to find instantaneous games? Where is action sack? Where is multi team? Where is actual SBTB?
I hate it too. Next month is supposed to be a big update: playlist, social, game modes, classic maps return. I’m giving this game till Feb before I judge the longevity. Hope it works out because I love this game.
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> I hate it too. Next month is supposed to be a big update: playlist, social, game modes, classic maps return. I’m giving this game till Feb before I judge the longevity. Hope it works out because I love this game.
But 343 still has this stubborn ideal that even “social” playlists should use extremely tight matchmaking restrictions. Which defeats the entire point of having a social playlist.
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> I hate it too. Next month is supposed to be a big update: playlist, social, game modes, classic maps return. I’m giving this game till Feb before I judge the longevity. Hope it works out because I love this game.
I’m totally fine with waiting until maybe a month or two after February for infection, I can just play warzone 'till then.
Well, technically we do. Big Team is social… but I get where you’re coming from. We need more than just BTB.
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> > 2533274900911359;2:
> > I hate it too. Next month is supposed to be a big update: playlist, social, game modes, classic maps return. I’m giving this game till Feb before I judge the longevity. Hope it works out because I love this game.
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>
> I’m totally fine with waiting until maybe a month or two after February for infection, I can just play warzone 'till then.
Stop being an apologist.
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> They added in Holiday Social for a limited time and now it’s gone. Even then that wasn’t really social as it used the exact same matchmaking parametres as ranked.
>
> Same goes with unranked BTB. It uses the same matchmaking as ranked BTB did. What’s the point? Some people cannot even find games because their rank is too high in a so called “social” playlist.
>
> So, where are the real social playlists? Where is Social Slayer with loosened matchmaking parametres that allow everyone to find instantaneous games? Where is action sack? Where is multi team? Where is actual SBTB?
Sounds like somebody has figured out exactly what social playlists have been since forever…
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> Well, technically we do. Big Team is social… but I get where you’re coming from. We need more than just BTB.
But it’s really not social. It’s just unranked. It doesn’t have the same matchmaking parametres that past Halo games have used in social. It uses ranked parametres and just hides the rank from you.
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> > 2535411253231345;1:
> > They added in Holiday Social for a limited time and now it’s gone. Even then that wasn’t really social as it used the exact same matchmaking parametres as ranked.
> >
> > Same goes with unranked BTB. It uses the same matchmaking as ranked BTB did. What’s the point? Some people cannot even find games because their rank is too high in a so called “social” playlist.
> >
> > So, where are the real social playlists? Where is Social Slayer with loosened matchmaking parametres that allow everyone to find instantaneous games? Where is action sack? Where is multi team? Where is actual SBTB?
>
>
> Sounds like somebody has figured out exactly what social playlists have been since forever…
What?
Social playlists have never used the same matchmaking parametres as ranked. They’ve always been much looser in every way imaginable.
warzone is a huge social game type…if you want social go play warzone. I dont understand why people are posting they dont have social playlists. warzone is a HUGE social gametype and you have BTB…whats the issue here?
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> > > 2535411253231345;1:
> > > They added in Holiday Social for a limited time and now it’s gone. Even then that wasn’t really social as it used the exact same matchmaking parametres as ranked.
> > >
> > > Same goes with unranked BTB. It uses the same matchmaking as ranked BTB did. What’s the point? Some people cannot even find games because their rank is too high in a so called “social” playlist.
> > >
> > > So, where are the real social playlists? Where is Social Slayer with loosened matchmaking parametres that allow everyone to find instantaneous games? Where is action sack? Where is multi team? Where is actual SBTB?
> >
> >
> > Sounds like somebody has figured out exactly what social playlists have been since forever…
>
>
> What?
>
> Social playlists have never used the same matchmaking parametres as ranked. They’ve always been much looser in every way imaginable.
They had guests and used a looser version of the exact same mechanic in ranked. You can argue degrees of looseness all you want, which I don’t really care to do without seeing the exact parameters used behind the scenes. But it’s the same thing, still.
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> > > > They added in Holiday Social for a limited time and now it’s gone. Even then that wasn’t really social as it used the exact same matchmaking parametres as ranked.
> > > >
> > > > Same goes with unranked BTB. It uses the same matchmaking as ranked BTB did. What’s the point? Some people cannot even find games because their rank is too high in a so called “social” playlist.
> > > >
> > > > So, where are the real social playlists? Where is Social Slayer with loosened matchmaking parametres that allow everyone to find instantaneous games? Where is action sack? Where is multi team? Where is actual SBTB?
> > >
> > >
> > > Sounds like somebody has figured out exactly what social playlists have been since forever…
> >
> >
> > What?
> >
> > Social playlists have never used the same matchmaking parametres as ranked. They’ve always been much looser in every way imaginable.
>
>
> They had guests and used a looser version of the exact same mechanic in ranked. You can argue degrees of looseness all you want, which I don’t really care to do without seeing the exact parameters used behind the scenes. But it’s the same thing, still.
You’re argueing pointless semantics. The fact of the matter is the parametres were different. We don’t know the exact numbers behind the parametres but we do know they were different.
In H5 they appear to be the exact same. Which is an issue for multiple reasons. 1- Some people cannot find games. This is unacceptable in a social playlist. 2- It doesn’t provide a social experience.
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> warzone is a huge social game type…if you want social go play warzone. I dont understand why people are posting they dont have social playlists. warzone is a HUGE social gametype and you have BTB…whats the issue here?
Warzone is a very different experience.
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> > > > > They added in Holiday Social for a limited time and now it’s gone. Even then that wasn’t really social as it used the exact same matchmaking parametres as ranked.
> > > > >
> > > > > Same goes with unranked BTB. It uses the same matchmaking as ranked BTB did. What’s the point? Some people cannot even find games because their rank is too high in a so called “social” playlist.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, where are the real social playlists? Where is Social Slayer with loosened matchmaking parametres that allow everyone to find instantaneous games? Where is action sack? Where is multi team? Where is actual SBTB?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like somebody has figured out exactly what social playlists have been since forever…
> > >
> > >
> > > What?
> > >
> > > Social playlists have never used the same matchmaking parametres as ranked. They’ve always been much looser in every way imaginable.
> >
> >
> > They had guests and used a looser version of the exact same mechanic in ranked. You can argue degrees of looseness all you want, which I don’t really care to do without seeing the exact parameters used behind the scenes. But it’s the same thing, still.
>
>
> You’re argueing pointless semantics. The fact of the matter is the parametres were different. We don’t know the exact numbers behind the parametres but we do know they were different.
>
> In H5 they appear to be the exact same. Which is an issue for multiple reasons. 1- Some people cannot find games. This is unacceptable in a social playlist. 2- It doesn’t provide a social experience.
Like I said, you can argue appearance of whether or not they appear to use the exact same, but all you’re arguing is degrees. Which is a complete waste of effort. The only tangible thing you get in social is the ranking not displaying publicly.
It sucks but splitting the community even further with several unranked versions of already existing gametypes may damage it more than help.
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> > warzone is a huge social game type…if you want social go play warzone. I dont understand why people are posting they dont have social playlists. warzone is a HUGE social gametype and you have BTB…whats the issue here?
>
>
> Warzone is a very different experience.
You asked why there arent any social playlists, and you have about 85% of the multiplayer support dedicated towards the biggest social gametype ever in a halo game. on top of that you have BTB with its own maps. What more do you want? I get people want sports game types, I get that…oddball, richotte, griffball, and even more…they’re all coming…what more can you possibly want?
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> It sucks but splitting the community even further with several unranked versions of already existing gametypes may damage it more than help.
I disagree. Social playlists with actual social matchmaking parametres do not need many players in order to function.
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> > > > > > They added in Holiday Social for a limited time and now it’s gone. Even then that wasn’t really social as it used the exact same matchmaking parametres as ranked.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Same goes with unranked BTB. It uses the same matchmaking as ranked BTB did. What’s the point? Some people cannot even find games because their rank is too high in a so called “social” playlist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, where are the real social playlists? Where is Social Slayer with loosened matchmaking parametres that allow everyone to find instantaneous games? Where is action sack? Where is multi team? Where is actual SBTB?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like somebody has figured out exactly what social playlists have been since forever…
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What?
> > > >
> > > > Social playlists have never used the same matchmaking parametres as ranked. They’ve always been much looser in every way imaginable.
> > >
> > >
> > > They had guests and used a looser version of the exact same mechanic in ranked. You can argue degrees of looseness all you want, which I don’t really care to do without seeing the exact parameters used behind the scenes. But it’s the same thing, still.
> >
> >
> > You’re argueing pointless semantics. The fact of the matter is the parametres were different. We don’t know the exact numbers behind the parametres but we do know they were different.
> >
> > In H5 they appear to be the exact same. Which is an issue for multiple reasons. 1- Some people cannot find games. This is unacceptable in a social playlist. 2- It doesn’t provide a social experience.
>
>
> Like I said, you can argue appearance of whether or not they appear to use the exact same, but all you’re arguing is degrees. Which is a complete waste of effort. The only tangible thing you get in social is the ranking not displaying publicly.
Ok.
The degree of difference between ranked and social that H5 currently uses is far too small. The restrictions need to be loosened up.
Why are you so dead set on argueing pointless semantics?
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> > > warzone is a huge social game type…if you want social go play warzone. I dont understand why people are posting they dont have social playlists. warzone is a HUGE social gametype and you have BTB…whats the issue here?
> >
> >
> > Warzone is a very different experience.
>
>
> You asked why there arent any social playlists, and you have about 85% of the multiplayer support dedicated towards the biggest social gametype ever in a halo game. on top of that you have BTB with its own maps. What more do you want? I get people want sports game types, I get that…oddball, richotte, griffball, and even more…they’re all coming…what more can you possibly want?
Arena currently has 0 social playlists. Warzone is entirely irrelevant to this discussion. It’s not even part of arena. BTB is not social, it is unranked.