literally 95% of the time i play a ranked game the teams are crazy unbalanced. Not only do players searching alone get matched against people several ranks above them but its like the game stacks one team up.
I would expect a player searching solo to get matched against players near his/her skill level as they progress through the ranks. If you have a fireteam of mixed ranks then match them based on their highest rank because those of us who search solo get super screwed.
Ya…I have totally noticed this too. It needs to be fixed.
KD seems to be less of a factor when they match people
there doesn’t seem to be a lot of ways to solve this short of barring pre-made fireteams from facing randoms, but that’ isn’t very ideal.
They could also make it so that people in different rank divisions can’t party up in ranked games, but that wouldn’t go well either. There’s not really a way around this that doesn’t in some way encroach upon the accessibility for those players who team up.
I’m not saying these situations are fair, but it’s the price of going in solo. Communication and teamwork are keys to victory. Who knows, maybe if you went in with a few people, you might have fairer matchups? Shouldn’t be required, though.
Additionally, I’ve had unbalanced matchups on most of the Halo games at many different points when going in solo. so it isn’t a new issue (but it’s more noticable in H5)
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> there doesn’t seem to be a lot of ways to solve this short of barring pre-made fireteams from facing randoms, but that’ isn’t very ideal.
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> I’m not saying these situations are fair, but it’s the price of going in solo. Communication and teamwork are keys to victory. Who knows, maybe if you went in with a few people, you might have fairer matchups? Shouldn’t be required, though.
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> Additionally, I’ve had unbalanced matchups on most of the Halo games at many different points when going in solo. so it isn’t a new issue (but it’s more noticable in H5)
What this guy said, its the sad truth but really just need to find some friends to team up with. It takes time.
343 is laughing their butts off.
Speaking of teaming up, does anyone want to team up tonight for slayer or arena? I want to actually play with some good players. Let me know!
i was onyx last season playing solo now i cant even win a game
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> i was onyx last season playing solo now i cant even win a game
If you were onyx but you can’t win a game now, the issue isn’t teams being uneven…
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ok im slightly exaggerating
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Probably just luck of the draw of teammates around the skill level (or unlucky in this example). There are vastly different skill levels of gold 6 team slayer playlist players - same applies for all groups. Same concept applied back in halo 3 - 50s ranged in skill widely. Some were bought accounts - others were legit. Those legit 50s - some still sucked compared to other 50s. Then you have to remember that each individual probably plays better and worse against certain playstyles (campers, melee rushers, long range br kids, etc.). I personally struggle vs efficient vehicle players and tend to avoid them unless I get a power weapon to destroy them.
Anyway, they should have moved away from solo players vs teams. It’s already been proven multiple times, a team of pros beat team of random pros via the skirmishes they had back in halo 3 days. It applies at all levels, team of avg players will pretty much always beat solo avg players. Heck, I remember times where I’ve paired up with bad friends (.6-1.0 k/d) and been able to dominate players in past games that have been ranked higher across the board. It holds true in all genres of games I’ve played (rts, fps, tps, moba). It baffles me that a “competitive” game like halo 5 doesn’t have this (remember all the appeal to the competitive community).
Pair fireteam sizes everytime (always all randoms vs all randoms, always 2 pairs of 2 vs 2 pairs of 2, always 3 vs 3 … drop the requirement for 4 players…, always 4 vs 4).
I’d bet in the case above, 2 pairs of 2 vs 2 pairs of 2 would be the most inconsistent ranking, then all randoms, then 3 vs 3 and 4 vs 4. But all of that requires more in depth search algorithm that will take longer to find matches (a big problem according to the community during halo 5 development phase). I’d be in favor of it - quality > quantity all day every day.
Halo 3 used to match team sizes against team sizes and that game had no problems with mathcmaking. Just saying.
It gets pretty frustrating but thats halo right
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> Halo 3 used to match team sizes against team sizes and that game had no problems with mathcmaking. Just saying.
The Halo 3 population was much larger, though, so Bungie could afford to put more restrictions in and still get fast match making. I wouldn’t mid waiting a little longer in Halo 5 for more even teams.
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they could atleast match people based on the highest ranks in their fire team rather than the lowest. People always use a low ranked tag to get easier games and its annoying because you get matched with teammates that are also lower ranked just because the other team is boosting.
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Well, yeah it still would be. Either way it indicates poorly balanced teams.
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If he was over-rated, that indicates that he was carried by players of a higher skill level, who, while carrying a lower skill level player still managed to win. So, the teams must have been unbalanced (both in terms of teams versus and in terms of overall team make-up).
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If he was accurately rated, but is now unable to win, it indicates that the teams aren’t balanced. He is being placed with much lower level teammates and regardless of his personal skill is unable to carry them to victory.
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> i was onyx last season playing solo now i cant even win a game
I was Onyx last season in arena and just got stomped in my placement matches this season. I got placed platinum 6 and now none of my games are balanced. Either stomps or getting stomped. No fun at all
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I feel your pain i went on a massive losing streak.
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> literally 95% of the time i play a ranked game the teams are crazy unbalanced. Not only do players searching alone get matched against people several ranks above them but its like the game stacks one team up.
> I would expect a player searching solo to get matched against players near his/her skill level as they progress through the ranks. If you have a fireteam of mixed ranks then match them based on their highest rank because those of us who search solo get super screwed.
Yeah it’s really badly broken. I don’t mind the odd unbalanced game, but if I’m playing solo and get stomped by a team, the game then matches me up against them again!!
I had a guy on my team go 0-15 the other day, we lost badly. Then the next game he was on my team again!!! Playing against the same team that just destroyed us. I was the only person on my team who was positive, it sucked.
Surely the game should at least swap the players around a bit? Mix the teams up? If we have 2 low scoring players on one team, move one of them across to the other team. It’s not rocket science.
Think I may have possibly played you in FFA.
People tend to think I’m boosting cuz I have a low level account but I literally just bought the game and Xb1 last sunday.