I am seriously baffled that people see a few gameplay changes as the entire game being transformed into a copy of Call of Duty. The maps, guns, vehicles, armor abilities and more are all clearly Halo, and the only things that are similar to COD are the ordinance drops and custom loadouts. COD isn’t the only game to have these features, and people seem to forget that COD added things that were previously in Halo too, such as the theater and the infected gametype, yet when Halo adds some features that were previously in COD the whole community is outraged. There are other FPS’s on the market you know, and there are plenty that have loads of features similar to the ones in COD, so why are people describing Halo 4 as a COD rip-off by taking a couple gameplay elements and changing them up a bit? I’m not going to deny that Halo 4 has problems, some bigger than others, but why do people see this as an excuse to insult 343 by calling their game a blatant rip-off? I don’t want to start a huge argument here, I just want to hear people’s thoughts on this.
because thats as clever as people can come up with. They also fail to realize all that stuff has been in FPS games long before COD put it in.
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Maybe COD isnt the right game name but since its the most popular and well known people will say it
not as rip-off but its obvious that most of the elements of COD have been, in some way implemented into Halo 4 like with
Ordinance drops= COD killstreaks
Spartan modules=COD perks
and the over all pace of halo has been quickened to the equal of COD
> because thats as clever as people can come up with. They also fail to realize all that stuff has been in FPS games long before COD put it in.
Exactly, Everyone thinks COD started Classes which is very very far from the truth
> not as rip-off but its obvious that most of the elements of COD have been, in some way implemented into Halo 4 like with
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> Ordinance drops= COD killstreaks
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> Spartan modules=COD perks
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> and the over all pace of halo has been quickened to the equal of COD
Right because halo was originally a face paced 3 shot shooter.
> not as rip-off but its obvious that most of the elements of COD have been, in some way implemented into Halo 4 like with
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> Ordinance drops= COD killstreaks
> Except Ordiance has nothing to do with kills, Its a matter of getting so many points to fill the gadge, I could get a kill then die right after again and again until that gadge fills
> Spartan modules=COD perks
> No, just no, Many other games had perks long before COD ever though of doing them
> and the over all pace of halo has been quickened to the equal of COD
> Right because COD was soooo Revolutionary that they possibly couldnt have gotten any of their ideas from games before their time
Sprint.
Loadouts.
Perks (Most of which are blatant copies of the ones from CoD anyways)
Ordnance.
Flinch.
Large, bland maps.
Instant Respawn.
To a lesser extent, hitmarkers and grenade indicators.
> Herp-a-derp, Call of Duty didn’t invent those things.
No, but it’s pretty clear where Halo drew the inspiration from. It’s not like 343I is imitating games that are 10 years old for profit.
Rather, they imitate what is current to relevant times, aka CoD.
> PERKS AREN’T COPIES
Mobility > Marathon
Ordnance Priority > Hardline
Dexterity > Sleight of Hand
Stealth > Cold Blood or whatever it’s called
Please don’t make me list them all out…
> > because thats as clever as people can come up with. They also fail to realize all that stuff has been in FPS games long before COD put it in.
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> Exactly, Everyone thinks COD started Classes which is very very far from the truth
It has absolutely nothing to do with who started it, it’s the fact that CoD popularised the additions, not to mention it has ALL of the additions, some games have loadouts, some have perks, some have kill streaks, but CoD has it all, plus other stuff, of which is all in Halo 4
We now have…
-Perks, of which some are direct copies from the ones in CoD
-Loadouts
-Care packages/kill streaks
-Grenade indicators
-Instant respawn
-Kill Cams
-Can spawn with a shotgun, aka the boltshot
-Flinch instead of de-scoping
they copied the unnecessary kill-cam.
> they copied the unnecessary kill-cam.
Which somehow means that both games are exactly the same.
-Hater logic (see, we can do that too)
Because they added quite a few COD elements which don’t work/belong in a Halo game.
inb4CODwasntfirst
> > they copied the unnecessary kill-cam.
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> Which somehow means that both games are exactly the same.
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> -Hater logic (see, we can do that too)
You can rely on strawman arguments?
No one is saying it is “The exact same”, but there are numerous similarities.
> Because they added quite a few COD elements which don’t work/belong in a Halo game.
> inb4CODwasntfirst
Some people say the features don’t work, others say they do…It’s more of an opinion to be honest. Still doesn’t make the game a COD clone like a lot of people are saying.
this is all my opinion but:
Ordinance Drops = Killstreaks
Custom Loadouts = Classes
Specializations = perks
all maps (including Big Team Maps) also have a nasty cqb taste to them
> > > they copied the unnecessary kill-cam.
> >
> > Which somehow means that both games are exactly the same.
> >
> > -Hater logic (see, we can do that too)
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> You can rely on strawman arguments?
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> No one is saying it is “The exact same”, but there are numerous similarities.
Lots of games have numerous similarities though, even games from different genres, and no one really complained before…
> > not as rip-off but its obvious that most of the elements of COD have been, in some way implemented into Halo 4 like with
> >
> > Ordinance drops= COD killstreaks
> > Except Ordiance has nothing to do with kills, Its a matter of getting so many points to fill the gadge, I could get a kill then die right after again and again until that gadge fills
> > still the same in COD MW3. except in COD its called support and nothing is lethal. It only helps the team (which seems like a better choice for halo 4)
> > Spartan modules=COD perks
> > No, just no, Many other games had perks long before COD ever though of doing themOkay I get it COD didnt do this first holy -Yoink- but since its the most popular and hated for it its obvious everyone would say COD
> > and the over all pace of halo has been quickened to the equal of COD
> > Right because COD was soooo Revolutionary that they possibly couldnt have gotten any of their ideas from games before their time whats does that have to do with anything? halo is Revolutionary and shouldnt squander amoungst the ideas of COD. Its original gameplay was well enough to not be touched with
Hmmm, if you have played Halo CE/2 sprint was basically already in the game… you just didn’t have to press a button.
I wonder if Gears will get this much hate…
> this is all my opinion but:
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> Ordinance Drops = Killstreaks
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> Custom Loadouts = Classes
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> Specializations = perks
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> all maps (including Big Team Maps) also have a nasty cqb taste to them
Tell me, how does a giant crashed spaceship in a green plain filled with vehicles have anything to do with COD?
> > > > they copied the unnecessary kill-cam.
> > >
> > > Which somehow means that both games are exactly the same.
> > >
> > > -Hater logic (see, we can do that too)
> >
> > You can rely on strawman arguments?
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> > No one is saying it is “The exact same”, but there are numerous similarities.
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> Lots of games have numerous similarities though, even games from different genres, and no one really complained before…
Yes to the first point, no to the second.
I can draw similarities between Halo and other similar games, but you could never compare Halo 3’s Gameplay to COD4’s Gameplay. Entirely different.
> Hmmm, if you have played Halo CE/2 sprint was basically already in the game… you just didn’t have to press a button.
This, this, god -Yoink!- take all my thanks, this.
You already had sprint, and you could use your weapon while doing it, and you didn’t have to mash X every five seconds.
Sprint is pointless and only gives the illusion of going faster.
> > > > > they copied the unnecessary kill-cam.
> > > >
> > > > Which somehow means that both games are exactly the same.
> > > >
> > > > -Hater logic (see, we can do that too)
> > >
> > > You can rely on strawman arguments?
> > >
> > > No one is saying it is “The exact same”, but there are numerous similarities.
> >
> > Lots of games have numerous similarities though, even games from different genres, and no one really complained before…
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> Yes to the first point, no to the second.
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> I can draw similarities between Halo and other similar games, but you could never compare Halo 3’s Gameplay to COD4’s Gameplay. Entirely different.
I didn’t say you could compare those games specifically…I was saying that games in general have similarities to other games, that is all.