A warthog has limited use drive one into a whole team of enemies and then tell me how that works out you’ll lose the warthog and a player or two players if some jerk didn’t rip off the warthog for some insane reason.
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I wouldn’t say Ranked rewards skill.
I’ve done quite well in a few matches, yet because those matches were lost, my rank went down.
Meanwhile, I’ve done quite poorly in other matches, yet because those matches were won, my rank went up.
Also, instead of relying on skill, I’ve seen quite a few teams just rush after the powerful weapons on the maps and destroy the teams I was on because of it.
I guess you could say they have some skill at focusing on getting weapons, but I see the same thing outside of Ranked, and back when I played Halo 3 and Reach, people were called bks or noobs for doing that…
The skilled people were the ones practicing trick shots, nade shots, ninja jumping, ways to get around the maps faster, etc.
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I am just curious, and also lazy, so I apologize
No need to, you just asked the wrong Guy 
IF there were one warthog on the map i’m sure the same would happen in ranked , what your describing ,and i agree with you is no more than rush tactics the Skill is it not getting that weapon and countering it just like there is skill to using a vehicle and at the same time countering it from the other end.
The skill question isn’t getting the tool, the skill question is how to use the tool, how to counter the tool if the enemy got it…
I think a percentile explanation would be the reason. Who wants vehicles in ranked vs who doesn’t. Every single person on my friends list doesn’t want vehicles in ranked. I can’t think of anyone I know that would. Not saying they don’t exist…but between the amount of those who do/don’t, and map viability to even have vehicles without destroying the competitive nature of the match…I’d say that’s kind of an explanation.
They are more of a social fun part of big maps imo, I just really think the scale is tipped way more in favor of those who don’t want vehicles.
Yeah, the skill is in how something is used or countered, I suppose.
However, maybe I’m not remembering correctly, but I think it used to be that, with those MLG players and modes, skill was more about using a limited set of weapons.
Basically, you had the same weapons as everyone in the match for the entire match, and the skill was compared through how you used what you had, not from picking things up for an advantage.
By those standards there should be NO spawns of any kind in Ranked other than maybe a few of the weapons you start with., you should have the skill to kill your enemy with those weapons and continue with what you were able to pull off of that enemy ammo, grenades etc… There should be NO power weapons at all…
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That’s probably how it should be.
Right now, aside from BR starts, there isn’t much of a difference between the gameplay in Ranked and other playlists.
LOL rockets dont give you a massive mobility boost, power weapon, and armor… Its just not competitive. Ranked is about team gun play and map control.
Sprint, clamber and you can still be sniped off the gunner of a warthog… also you can also really hurt a warthog with a rocket launcher…
If its not the battle rifle it shouldn’t be in ranked period. Who cares about the sandbox. The litterbox takes more skill to hit.
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Vehicle play takes to much away from the game as a sport, they are too over powered and require much less skill to use than anything in ranked. Ranked is supposed to test a players raw skill and teamwork. It takes much less teamwork to jump in the passenger seat of a Warthog with the flag than it does to have all four members escorting the flag and locking it down. It creates openings for the opposite team to make a play against you multiple times per flag fun. As far as the comments asking about SWAT or rocket launcher. SWAT only tests your reflexes there’s no teamwork involved. (I can carry almost any team in SWAT) and the rocket launcher forces players out of position to secure it. They create a small opportunity to make a push but with only 2 rockets in ranked instead of 4 they can’t be abused as easily.
Ranked and competitive Halo is a different animal at times and therefore different rules apply. Ranked is not there for you to relax and have fun.
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Ranked is the no fun allowed playlist.
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Fun is subjective. I’ve been having fun playing competitor Halo for 20 years. Which does not include any vehicles.
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So how does that replace grenades? I fully dissagree with you , yes it may take less skill to get in the passenger seat of a warthog but what about the driver? are you saying the driver has no skill? or the gunner? What happens if the driver dies? the gunner? are you saying it takes no skill to get a warthog to and from two points without dieing without flipping over??? i have to argue that it’s not totally without skill? if the warthog flips over what happens?
I would argue that power weapons should be removed from ranked i would argue you should start with Ars ONLY and headshots should be disabled… and i would also argue that you should have no weapons that can do instakill in ranked.
Okay dude, you give me a rocket launcher. Then you get the hog, with a second player. Let’s see who wins.
Aren’t they spawning in the big maps?
I’m not saying it doesn’t take skill to drive a Warthog, but it does not take as much skill as it is beneficial. It’s about balance and risk vs reward. There is relatively low risk vs the high reward with vehicles. As far as power weapons go in a ranked match we keep track of when they spawn and there’s almost ALWAYS a fight to lock down the area. I don’t have time to sit here and explain every detail as to why ranked works the way it does. If you haven’t been involved with ranked/MLG/AGL/HCS you probably just don’t have the mindset. The best casual player wouldn’t stand a chance against the worst competitive player in a competitive environment because the game plays so much different.
That’s not how ranked works my man. The point isn’t who can kill who, it’s about who can demonstrate more skill and teamwork. There’s plenty of matches where my entire team is negative myself included but we win because while the other team was playing tdm we were playing the objective.