You haven’t even seen more than like 5 seconds of someone actually playng the multiplayer, and it looked like it played like the others from what I could tell. That fact is, most of you don’t know what you’re talking about. Sure, you may not like the new additions, but they may not be as bad as you think.
You all love to hate on the Forerunner Vision. Thing is, we hardly know anything about it. We don’t even know how well it works. It may not even be that effective. You hate on the random weapon spawns, and Frankie already said that people badly misinterpretated that.
The fact is, none of us have even seen more than like 5 seconds of multiplayer, no real gameplay footage has been released, and no one has played it. You might all be overreacting by a lot. It may not even be that bad, and don’t say it is based off just what they have said. If you do, read the first sentence of this paragraph again.
Truth is, you don’t have true reasons to be hating until 343i releases the podcast and gameplay footage is released, or until they discuss multiplayer in-depth sometime in the near future.
Stop it.
The only arguments you guys can come up with is “you have not played it”. We dont NEED to. We know that everyone does not start out even, like we asked repetitively. We know there is jetpack, which we asked so many times not to have. We know there is forerunner vision, which doesn’t have a place in halo. The list goes on and on.
> Stop it.
> The only arguments you guys can come up with is “you have not played it”. We dont NEED to. We know that everyone does not start out even, like we asked repetitively. We know there is jetpack, which we asked so many times not to have. We know there is forerunner vision, which doesn’t have a place in halo. The list goes on and on.
Like I said, you have never played it or seen this stuff in action. They might not even be that effective. Like I said, Forerunner Vision might not even be that good. Jetpack/thrusters may not do much for you besides maybe help you jump over your opponent or a gap in the map. We don’t know how this stuff is going to work in the game, so until they tell us more or see it for ourselves, we have no real reason to hate yet.
> > Stop it.
> > The only arguments you guys can come up with is “you have not played it”. We dont NEED to. We know that everyone does not start out even, like we asked repetitively. We know there is jetpack, which we asked so many times not to have. We know there is forerunner vision, which doesn’t have a place in halo. The list goes on and on.
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> Like I said, you have never played it or seen this stuff in action. They might not even be that effective. Like I said, Forerunner Vision might not even be that good. Jetpack/thrusters may not do much for you besides maybe help you jump over your opponent or a gap in the map. We don’t know how this stuff is going to work in the game, so until they tell us more or see it for ourselves, we have no real reason to hate yet.
if that is your arguement then you have no real reason to praise 343/halo 4 yet.
> > Stop it.
> > The only arguments you guys can come up with is “you have not played it”. We dont NEED to. We know that everyone does not start out even, like we asked repetitively. We know there is jetpack, which we asked so many times not to have. We know there is forerunner vision, which doesn’t have a place in halo. The list goes on and on.
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> Like I said, you have never played it or seen this stuff in action. They might not even be that effective. Like I said, Forerunner Vision might not even be that good. Jetpack/thrusters may not do much for you besides maybe help you jump over your opponent or a gap in the map. We don’t know how this stuff is going to work in the game, so until they tell us more or see it for ourselves, we have no real reason to hate yet.
Will the teams start out equal?
I’ll give you a hint: NO. It’s impossible to make two AAs or guns equally balanced, one player will always have an advantage over the other, however slight, before the game has started.
> Stop it.
> The only arguments you guys can come up with is “you have not played it”. We dont NEED to. We know that everyone does not start out even, like we asked repetitively. We know there is jetpack, which we asked so many times not to have. We know there is forerunner vision, which doesn’t have a place in halo. The list goes on and on.
But you haven’t even seen any of these new features in action. How can you say that they’re bad when you have no idea how they work or how they affect the game? That’d be like 343 posting an article saying that they’re adding the Halo CE Pistol again. People would be like “thank you 343” and “343 is awesome!” when it could be more overpowered than it was originally was in Halo CE, and nobody would know because 343 hadn’t said anything other than it was in the game. They’re obviously going to balance these things out.
> > > Stop it.
> > > The only arguments you guys can come up with is “you have not played it”. We dont NEED to. We know that everyone does not start out even, like we asked repetitively. We know there is jetpack, which we asked so many times not to have. We know there is forerunner vision, which doesn’t have a place in halo. The list goes on and on.
> >
> > Like I said, you have never played it or seen this stuff in action. They might not even be that effective. Like I said, Forerunner Vision might not even be that good. Jetpack/thrusters may not do much for you besides maybe help you jump over your opponent or a gap in the map. We don’t know how this stuff is going to work in the game, so until they tell us more or see it for ourselves, we have no real reason to hate yet.
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> Will the teams start out equal?
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> I’ll give you a hint: NO. It’s impossible to make two AAs or guns equally balanced, one player will always have an advantage over the other, however slight, before the game has started.
How do you know balance is impossible? When one choice has something it’s good at, and something it’s less good at; and another has different benefits/downsides…there can be balance. They’ve got a while to test the hell out of this stuff and polish things and ensure there is the balance that we’ve come to expect from halo.
As far as teams starting out equal…that often doesn’t happen in matchmaking since Halo 2. Random kids quit before the game starts, people are away from controllers, people have guests, people suck; all leading to an imbalanced game right from the start. All not very controllable, except 343 is trying to improve the kid-quits-at start thing now. Weapon balance is something they can probably figure out.
> > Stop it.
> > The only arguments you guys can come up with is “you have not played it”. We dont NEED to. We know that everyone does not start out even, like we asked repetitively. We know there is jetpack, which we asked so many times not to have. We know there is forerunner vision, which doesn’t have a place in halo. The list goes on and on.
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> But you haven’t even seen any of these new features in action. How can you say that they’re bad when you have no idea how they work or how they affect the game? That’d be like 343 posting an article saying that they’re adding the Halo CE Pistol again. People would be like “thank you 343” and “343 is awesome!” when it could be more overpowered than it was originally was in Halo CE, and nobody would know because 343 hadn’t said anything other than it was in the game. They’re obviously going to balance these things out.
Again, You have not played the game either. you cant tell us that we shouldnt think this. you know nothing of the game. you shouldnt think that its good until they release it. (if we go on the logic you people are spewing)
> Will the teams start out equal?
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> I’ll give you a hint: NO. It’s impossible to make two AAs or guns equally balanced, one player will always have an advantage over the other, however slight, before the game has started.
You do realise that it’s always been like this right? Ever since Halo CE? If a group of 8 of us were playing a game of FFA Slayer, everyone’s going to spawn in different places and next to different weapons.
> But you haven’t even seen any of these new features in action. How can you say that they’re bad when you have no idea how they work or how they affect the game? That’d be like 343 posting an article saying that they’re adding the Halo CE Pistol again. People would be like “thank you 343” and “343 is awesome!” when it could be more overpowered than it was originally was in Halo CE, and nobody would know because 343 hadn’t said anything other than it was in the game. They’re obviously going to balance these things out.
Again, You have not played the game either. you cant tell us that we shouldnt think this. you know nothing of the game. you shouldnt think that its good until they release it. (if we go on the logic you people are spewing)
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I’m not saying that it’s going to be a good game. I will say that the Campaign looks great and that muliplayer might be good but I won’t say that I can 100% guarantee that it’ll be good until I play it. I’m not saying that “Jetpack is going to be awesome” and that “Customisable classes are going to be great”. I’m saying they might be. But people are bashing Halo 4 and 343 as if they’ve played the game. It’s not right.
> > Will the teams start out equal?
> >
> > I’ll give you a hint: NO. It’s impossible to make two AAs or guns equally balanced, one player will always have an advantage over the other, however slight, before the game has started.
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> You do realise that it’s always been like this right? Ever since Halo CE? If a group of 8 of us were playing a game of FFA Slayer, everyone’s going to spawn in different places and next to different weapons.
> > People don’t like things and they voice their opinion. That’s how the world works, bro. No point trying to tell people what to like.
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> There’s a difference between:
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> “I don’t think Armour Abilities fit into halo very well” and the expressing why you think they don’t and:
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> “HALO 4 SUCKS” “HALO 4? MORE LIKE COD FUTURE WARFARE 4” and “DOWN WITH 343”
Both would be met with the same response. “Can I borrow your time machine?” or “ADAPT NUB!!!ONE”
> > > Will the teams start out equal?
> > >
> > > I’ll give you a hint: NO. It’s impossible to make two AAs or guns equally balanced, one player will always have an advantage over the other, however slight, before the game has started.
> >
> > You do realise that it’s always been like this right? Ever since Halo CE? If a group of 8 of us were playing a game of FFA Slayer, everyone’s going to spawn in different places and next to different weapons.
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> Irrelevent, we’re talking about team games.
On an Asymmetrical map like Zanzibar or Lockout it matters, especially when ther’s power weapons involved. I don’t see the harm players choosing weather they spawn with an AR, DMR or Covie Carbine etc. It’s not as if they’re spawing with Sniper Rifles and Spartan Lasers.
And why doesn’t FFA matter?
> Both would be met with the same response. “Can I borrow your time machine?” or “ADAPT NUB!!!ONE”
Yes, they probably would. There’s idiots on both sides.
The Halo 4 forum was pretty quiet until yesterday when it all kicked off. Obviously we can’t divulge in more detail but I don’t think we have anything to be concerned about.
I think some people here need to calm down and start acting more mature. I’ve already seen a hundred “OMG 343 WTH?!!!” and “BOYCOTT HALO 4!!!”. People are acting as if 343i have drastically altered the game in a way that its not like the previous games. IT IS. Now let us wait for more details and videos, oh and actually have played the game. At the end of the day, we know very little. Spamming the forums up with a million hate threads isn’t going to get us anywhere, it just annoys the mods.